Representing the People's Republic of California...

Discussion in 'The Trash Can' started by essence_of_soy, Feb 15, 2012.

  1. essence_of_soy

    essence_of_soy Well-Known Member

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    Can you think of any skaters from the United States who represent other countries?

    So far I can think of Melissa Bulanhagui who will be skating for the Philippines.
     
  2. berthesghost

    berthesghost Well-Known Member

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    Dianne deleuu - from ca to nd

    Cathy and Chris reed - from nj to jp

    Those are the only successful ones I can think of.

    The reeds sister skates pairs for ukrain.
    Sydney Vogel skipped ship, to Germany iirc.
    Trifun zagfunavichific switched to arzabaphanouffan or somewhere.
     
  3. Wyliefan

    Wyliefan Well-Known Member

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    Piper Gilles, in Canada.
     
  4. Rochelle

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    Kaitlyn Weaver competes in dance for Canada as well.

    Define "from America"? Those that were born her? Or those that moved here very early in childhood and consider an American city their home town?

    Watching 4CC this past weekend, it seemed a near majority of those not in the top 12 were from the United States. Primarily California, but elsewhere as well.
     
  5. Sylvia

    Sylvia On to Nationals!

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    You run a web site for Brooklee Han - does she count? http://www.aussieskates.com/brooklee/

    She was born in America, competed in the US Figure Skating qualifying system through the Intermediate National level, and started representing Australia at the Junior level in 2010-11. She splits her training time between Connecticut and Melbourne, but the interview on her site doesn't specify how much time she spends training in Australia each year. I assume at least one of her parents is Australian-born or has citizenship?

    Han seems typical of many skaters who are representing countries in which they do not live or spend the majority of their time. Many of the skaters competing at Four Continents who were born and/or live in the USA or Canada but represent another country at least have a direct family/ancestral connection to the countries they represent.
     
  6. euterpe

    euterpe Well-Known Member

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    Bryna Oi recently competed at Japanese Nationals in dance.
     
  7. essence_of_soy

    essence_of_soy Well-Known Member

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    Also, I believe Cheltzie Lee's mother is American, but Lee was born in Australia and has lived there for her entire life. She's trained from time to time with the coach, Cathy Kasey in the U.S, specifically to learn new jumps.

    The dance champions, O'Brien and Merriman train most of the year in Michigan with Anjelika Krylova and Pasquale Camerlengo, too. They've made tremendous improvements in their technical content this year.

    Another example is Ksenia Makarova skating first for the U.S (her birth place)., then Russia (her parents' birth place).

    It really is a global sport, that's for sure.
     
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  8. berthesghost

    berthesghost Well-Known Member

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    What about Sylvia Fontana?
     
  9. essence_of_soy

    essence_of_soy Well-Known Member

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    Don't know much about Fontana, but I believe Susan Driano was from the US and skated for Italy in the 1970s.
     
  10. Nomad

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    She was born in the US to Italian parents and grew up in Rome. I wouldn't include her since she actually lived in the country she represented.
     
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  11. RFOS

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    Ksenia Makarova was born in Russa (St. Petersburg). http://www.isuresults.com/bios/isufs00011176.htm

    In a quick scan through, the following skaters from 4CC were born in the U.S. but represented other countries:

    Men
    Christopher Caluza (PHI)
    Maverick Eguia (PHI)

    Ladies
    Victoria Muniz (PUR)
    Melinda Wang (TPE)
    Melanie Swang (THA)
    Crystal Kiang (TPE)
    Mericien Venzon (PHI)
    Chaochih Liu (TPE)
    Brittany Lau (SIN)

    Dance
    Kaitlyn Weaver (CAN)
    Corenne Bruhns (MEX)
    Cortney Mansour (KAZ)

    From Euros:

    Ladies
    Karina Johnson (DEN)
    Chelsea Rose Chiappa (HUN)
    Georgia Glastris (GRE)

    Pairs
    Danielle Montalbano (ISR)

    Vanessa James was born in Canada, but competed in the U.S. for a while, then for Great Britain, and now France.

    Dance
    Siobhan Heekin-Canedy (UKR)
     
  12. Vagabond

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    As has been mentioned, a lot of other skaters from the U.S. compete under foreign flags at Four Continents (and other competitions). We also seem to do pretty well at exporting female ice dancers.

    Here are a few others, past and present, who haven't been mentioned. This is hardly an exhaustive list:

    Susanna Driano (Italy) -- She won a bronze medal at Worlds.
    Bryce Davison (Canada) -- He was born in the United States but has always skated for Canada.
    Christopher Caluza (Philippines)
    Alice Sue Claeys (Belgium)
    Jennifer Goolsbee (Germany) -- ice dance
    Kyoko Ina (Japan) -- She was born in Japan but was raised in the U.S. and learned to skate here and competed for both countries.
    Daisuke Murakami (Japan) -- He too was born in Japan but was raised in the U.S. and learned to skate here and has competed for both countries.
    Kristen Fraser (Azerbaijan) -- ice dance
    Todd Sand (Denmark) -- He was born in the U.S., skated singles for Denmark, and then represented the U.S. in pairs, winning several medals at Worlds.
    Allison Reed (Georgia) -- ice dance
    Various ice dance partners of Deividas Stagniūnas (Lithuania) -- He has competed internationally with Kayla Nicole Frey, Katherine Copely, and Isabella Tobias
    Maxim Zavozin (Hungary) -- He was born in Russia, came to the U.S. as a boy, represented the U.S. in ice dance at the 2006 Winter Olympics, and later represented Hungary.
     
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  13. essence_of_soy

    essence_of_soy Well-Known Member

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  14. Sylvia

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    Corenne Bruhns' ice dance partner, Ryan Van Natten, was also born in the USA and he previously competed at 2011 US Nationals in Senior Dance (14th). Christopher Caluza (PHI) competed at US Nationals twice - 8th in Junior in 2010 and 19th in Senior in 2011. Chaochih Liu (TPE) competed at 2007 US Nationals in Junior (11th).

    ETA: allezfred's post below reminded me that Daisuke Murakami probably has had the most successful record at US Nationals/representing the US internationally in recent times -- 2004 Novice silver medalist, 2004 Triglav Trophy Novice gold medalist, 2006 Junior pewter medalist, 2006 JGP bronze medalist, 2006 Junior Worlds (11th) and 2007 Senior National men's competitor (15th) -- before he switched to Japan (where he was born).

    Yes. Makarova qualified for US Nationals at the lower levels and her high point was 7th in Novice at 2007 US Nationals. Her wiki says she and her family moved to the US when she was 8 years old.
     
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  15. allezfred

    allezfred Old and Immature Admin Staff Member

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    I'm sure Daisuke Takahashi will be surprised to find out he was representing the U.S. :lol:

    Perhaps you are referring to Daisuke Murakami? :p
     
  16. ChibiChibi

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    Also Sandra Kohpon (THA)
     
  17. Braulio

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    In fact he won 3 bronze medals: 1 with Kuchiki in 1991, 2 with Meno (95-96) and one silver in 1998

    Didn´t know he was born in Denmark
     
  18. dewey

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    Didn't Rena Inoue complete for Japan as a singles skater?
     
  19. rvi5

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    Adriana Desanctis represents Canada
     
  20. Nomad

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    Tamar Katz is from Dallas but skated for Israel
    Siobhan Heekin-Canedy skates for the Ukraine
     
  21. Vagabond

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    He wasn't, and I didn't say he was. He was born in Burbank, Calif.

    Yes, but she was born in Japan to Japanese parents, had Japanese citizenship, and had lived in Japan her whole life at that point. She didn't start skating for the U.S. until later, and she now holds U.S. citizenship.
     
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  22. maatTheViking

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    Karina's dad is American and her mom is Danish, though they live in the US. She should be born with dual citizenship.
     
  23. petro

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    Caitlin Mallory competed for the U.S. up until the 2006-2007 season (finishing 7th at nationals with Brent Holdburg), before partnering with Kristian Rand and competing for Estonia through 2010 (17th at Worlds.)
     
  24. Sylvia

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    Katz was born in Dallas but, as she herself posted on FSU years ago: "I am Israeli, my family lives in Israel, including my parents. My parents are government employees of Israel."
     
  25. Nomad

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    Obviously I missed that one. Thanks, Sylvia.
     
  26. RFOS

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    Here are some other random, mostly fairly obscure skaters I can think of who competed in U.S. qualifying competitions and later competed for/in another country (at least nationally) in recent years. I don't know where they all were born.

    Katherine (Katharina) Hadford (HUN)
    Alexandra (Zsa Zsa) Riordan (POL)
    Jane (Zhenni) Ruan (CHN)
    Maria Papas (Papasotiriou) (GRE)
    Nicole Rajic (Rajicova) (SVK)
    Ibuki Mori (JPN)
    Sasha Lanser, Stephanie Rigley, Charlotte Robbins, Dane Carter, Tashe Smith (GBR)
    Alexander Strupinski (POL) (I think)
    Victoria (Viktoria) Chiappa (HUN) (along with her sister Chelsea)
    Pierre Balian (ARM)
    Egor (Igor) Matsipura (Macypura) (SVK)
    Jessica Crenshaw (GRE in pairs with Chad Tsagris)
    Jenna Syken (ISR)
    Mark Vaillant (FRA)
     
  27. matti

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    And perhaps the most successful of them all: Dianne de Leeuw, the 1975 World Champion, 1976 Olympic silver medallist and European Champion. Represented the Netherlands but was born and raised in California, had the dual citizenship... :)

    ETA Oops Berthesghost had already mentioned her...sorry! :)
     
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  28. ioana

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    Alice went back to doing Regionals and Sectionals in the US and made it back to Nationals several times in the late 90's after she stopped competing for Belgium. I think she's one of the few skaters who went back to competing for the US -or at least trying to since I don't remember if she got any international assignments.
     
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    Elektra Hetman from New York represents France in ice dancing. Elektra and Benn have been selected to represent France at the Junior World Championships. Congratulations hard work and perservance does pay off:)
     
  30. RFOS

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    Darya Zuravicky was born in the U.S. and competed for Israel in the early '90s, and later switched back to skating a regionals/sectionals in the U.S. (I assume she probably competed in the U.S. when she was younger).

    Viktor Pfeifer briefly switched from competing for Austria to competing in U.S. qualifying competitions but did not qualify for Nationals, and later switched back to Austria (so that's not quite fitting with the topic but is an example of a skater switching countries and then switching back).