Quebec town rocked by explosions, fire after derailment in Lac-Mégantic

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  1. dardar1126

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    This looks just HORRIBLE! :eek:

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2013/07/06/quebec-train-derailment-fire.html

    Quebec town rocked by explosions, fire after derailment
    Train derailment in Lac-Mégantic forces 1,000 from homes as several reported missing
    CBC News Posted: Jul 6, 2013 6:19 AM ET Last Updated: Jul 6, 2013 10:13 AM ET

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    1,000 evacuated from their homes
    1-kilometre wide security perimeter
    Several missing, feared dead
    Over 100 firefighters battle flames

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    Aerial photo: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BOfz1IACQAAS0tZ.jpg

    Street-level: http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/68586000/jpg/_68586572_68584914.jpg

    Map: http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/68587000/gif/_68587084_lacmegantic.gif

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  2. Angelskates

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    :( I hope there are no further casualties
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    I hope so, too. But since this happened at night, some may have been sleeping and trapped in their homes. :(

    It seems that some of the train cars carrying the crude oil became uncoupled from the engine (?), rolled down the track, derailed and caught fire.

    Oil has leaked into the nearby lake and river.

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  4. Really

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    So scary!
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  5. Vash01

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    Any possibility of terrorism? Or was it just an unfortunate accident?
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    Trains derail. This was an extremely unfortunate place to derail. Besides, if someone wanted to derail trains carrying explosive petroleum products, there are far more 'attractive' targets in Canada than a town in the Eastern Townships of Quebec.
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  8. Aceon6

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    My dad was born about 20 miles south in Piopolis. So far, no one in the extended family is impacted, but an elderly 2nd cousin is opening her farm and will be housing some of the displaced.
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    That is very kind of your aunt; I'm sure it will appreciated! :)

    Here's a sad update regarding the missing:

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...id=rss1&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

    Relatives have little hope for those missing in Quebec explosion, fire
    VERITY STEVENSON AND SOPHIE COUSINEAU
    Lac-Mégantic, Que. — The Globe and Mail
    Published Sunday, Jul. 07 2013, 1:31 PM EDT
    Last updated Sunday, Jul. 07 2013, 1:35 PM EDT

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  10. Buzz

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    WOW! I had no idea that so many could be killed. Prayers and thoughts to all those effected.
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    Very scary and tragic for the town's people. My sympathies to those killed and the survivors who are suffering now.
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  13. halffull

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    Sending prayers to Quebec ...
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    There just are no words. Horrific tragedy. :-(

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    The four questions in the article are:
    Did someone tamper with the train?
    Isn't there a back-up system (for the train's brakes)?
    Why was a trainload of flammable liquid parked uphill from the town?
    How long will it take to know the number of dead and identify the victims' remains? (Answer -- it may take a very long time, if ever. :( )
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    40 missing is a very big number. Good thoughts going out to all involved. :(
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    I have a scary feeling that they may not be found at all, if the explosion was so bad that nothing was left of them. That would be sad beyond words for the family. Hopefully they are just somewhere else- injured but alive.
  21. Buzz

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    They did say on the news that some victims may have been vaporized because the heat was so intense.
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    What a horrible way to die! My sympathies to all the residents of that town. I read somewhere that they did not want this train going through their town.
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    Photos: Lac-Mégantic residents deal with fallout from train blast
    The Globe and Mail
    Published Monday, Jul. 08 2013, 1:39 PM EDT
    Last updated Monday, Jul. 08 2013, 1:59 PM EDT

    Residents briefly return home to collect some belongings as authorities begin the task of searching for the missing in Lac-Mégantic. An unmanned train derailed in the small town Saturday, setting off a series of fiery explosions

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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-23231470#TWEET815000

    8 July 2013 Last updated at 13:51 ET

    Canada train blast search for 40 missing in Lac-Megantic

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  24. Buzz

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    The news is grim and getting worse.
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    The last I read, 13 dead and 37 missing.:(
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  26. Buzz

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    Thanks again dardar for all the information.
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    You're welcome.

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    Lac-Mégantic residents to be allowed to return home Tuesday
    JILL MAHONEY
    The Globe and Mail
    Published Tuesday, Jul. 09 2013, 9:23 AM EDT
    Last updated Tuesday, Jul. 09 2013, 9:35 AM EDT

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    OMG! This disaster is already so bad and the list of missing is getting longer. :(
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    The investigation suspects that not enough handbrakes were set on the train. The engineer said that he had set 11, but that needs to be verified, as per this article. I don't know anything about trains' brakes, but apparently a large number of them are needed (makes sense, considering the size). The engineer is understandably facing wrath of the community.

    http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/10/world/americas/canada-runaway-train/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
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    Scary that something so simple could have caused so much death and destruction.
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    ^ Human error is so frequently the cause, whether it be a big-scale or small-scale incident.

    And the blame game has just begun. Yesterday it was a war of words between the train company management and the local fire dept. No doubt this will continue for some time.

    And meanwhile the people of Lac-Mégantic continue to live this tragedy -- bad enough not knowing how it happened, but not knowing what happened to your friends and neighbours? I just can't imagine.
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    Not necessarily and when you are investigator it is a dangerous assumption to make. I did a fantastic incident investigation course a few years ago as part of my job which takes into account everything that can lead to an incident. Basically a company's safety systems need to be so robust it can overcome the opportunity for human error. What you find with many large scale disasters there will be a lack of procedures and systems implemented from management level which result in this (I have seen quite a few of these in my safety training courses, one of which I am currently doing). Just watch a show such as Air Crash Investigations - many of those incidents were caused by problems with the systems which meant the people's actions slipped through the defences. It could be something as simple as an inadequate maintenance checklist that means something is overlooked and not picked up by the person doing the inspection.

    The company management need to be really careful before blaming individuals. They could end up in massive doggy-do-do taking that stance, particularly if it is found the management are at fault.
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    I believe they found another five more bodies bring the death total to 32 with about 30 still missing.
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    So incredibly tragic...
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