qualification for Worlds?!

Discussion in 'Great Skate Debate' started by bibi, Nov 7, 2010.

  1. bibi

    bibi New Member

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    Hello everyone,
    I think I've read somewhere a while ago that there would be a qualifying competition right before Worlds..for example, if the united states qualify alissa and Rachael at the US nationals, then Mirai, Ashley and others could attempt that competition and try to qualify there for Worlds? Does that make sense? Has anyone heard of that before?
    Thank you so much!
  2. C_T_T_

    C_T_T_ Well-Known Member

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    No, the US can only send a maximium of 2 ladies to worlds. This year skaters have to have a minium score to be allowed to compete so some skaters may have to compete to get that minium score to qualify, perhaps thats what you heard. For example Volosozhar/Trankov can't compete until Febraury because she has switched countries. Should they qualify for Worlds at Russian nationals they will have to do an international competition to achieve the minium score before they can go.
  3. bibi

    bibi New Member

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    ok thanks! And what's that minimum score?
  4. Ziggy

    Ziggy Well-Known Member

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    There is going to be a qualifying round at ISU Championships.

    Information on who has to go through it and who qualifies directly should be in the ISU communication which lists all the ISU Council decisions.

    HisWeirness posted it in the ISU Council thread as well.
    ETA: It's here:
    http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/showthread.php?t=73904&page=11
  5. Sylvia

    Sylvia Whee, summer club comps!

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  6. euterpe

    euterpe Well-Known Member

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    So far in the GP, the only skaters who haven't reached the minimum score are Turoczi / Major, HUN (SD-NHK, 15.81 < 17) and Diane Szmiett CAN (FS-NHK 22.30 < 25 and FS-CoC 24.90 < 25).

    However, neither one is likely to qualify for a spot at Euros/4CC/Worlds within their own federations.
  7. Ziggy

    Ziggy Well-Known Member

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    Hungary has two spots for Euros and Worlds so Turoczi/Major will most likely be on the team.

    They have another GP event so they are probably going to reach the minimum score there.
  8. burntBREAD

    burntBREAD New Member

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    Ugh, I don't even know what do say about Diane Szmiett. :mad:

    Look at her reaction.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AMwYG4kDjk
  9. Ziggy

    Ziggy Well-Known Member

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    [bleh that was a stupid post - please delete]
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  10. Sylvia

    Sylvia Whee, summer club comps!

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    I always feel badly for a skater who doesn't appear to be in the proper mental and/or physical state to compete for all the world to see. It's not like Szmiett is deliberately tanking.
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    Ziggy Well-Known Member

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    You're totally right, deleting my post. :/
  12. elfenblüte

    elfenblüte New Member

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    I don't understand the minimum score for the Free dance. The minimum FD technical score is 28 points in the ISU rules, but 27 points in both announcements for Euros and Worlds? What does count?
  13. pinky166

    pinky166 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, something must be up with her, she's probably injured or depressed or gets wicked nervous before she skates or something. She's never been a great skater but she's certainly capable of being much, much better than she has been recently. I feel bad and hope she figures out what's wrong, addresses the issue, and bounces back soon. It's hard seeing someone be so miserable.
  14. HisWeirness

    HisWeirness Yay, new board!

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    Thanks to Ziggy and Sylvia to linking to my post about the ISU rules (also linked to in my signature as "Summary of 2010 ISU Rule Changes").

    Diane Szmiett has met the ISU minimum techinical scores (SP/FS) based on her results last season.
    Turoczi / Major should be able to use their 24.20 in OD TES from 2010 Jr. Worlds and their 30.47 FD TES from 2010 NHK.

    That is an interesting discrepancy.

    ISU Communication 1621 item #16 lists the minimum free dance technical score as 28. I looked through all of the communications released since then and nothing has been issued that supersedes this statement in 1621.

    The technical rules state:
    All I can think is that it is a typo in the Worlds and Euros announcements. :confused:

    Oh, and the ISU calls the first competitive round the "Preliminary Round" and not the qualification round.
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  15. Seerek

    Seerek Well-Known Member

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    Does that mean that a result from an event like Nebelhorn doesn't count?

    Diane Szmiett had 124.87 total for her 6th place finish there earlier in the season
  16. HisWeirness

    HisWeirness Yay, new board!

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    Good question.
    Nebelhorn scores count (ISU-recognized International Competitions), they are just harder to look up than the ISU Event scores. ;)

    Regardless, Szmiett has met the minimum requirements for 2010-11.
  17. pinky166

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    Something definitely must be up with her if she was scoring 30-40 points higher at Nebelhorn which was held just about a month before her GP events. Hope she bounces back soon.
  18. elfenblüte

    elfenblüte New Member

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    Thank you!:)

    In the announcement for Four Continents, there is also a minimum score of 27 points listed!? I wonder why there are sooo many mistakes!
    I think the ISU should let the teams compete, who were able to get 27 points but not 28 points for technical in the FD.
    One team would benefit from that mistake!
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