Discussion in 'The Trash Can' started by 10J, Aug 11, 2010.
Which pairs besides Gordeeva and Grinkov have landed clean quad twists in competition?
Obertas/Slavnov landed it at 2005 Worlds, but it wasn't too clean:
Dan Zhang & Hao Zhang performed one. I don't remember where or when, though.
Marina Cherkasova & Sergei Shakhrai reportedly did it at the 1977 Europeans but the footage I have starts mid-way through the LP. They tried it at 1978 Europeans and Worlds but bother were under-rotated. However I have this clip which I uploaded a while ago which is from a documentary on soviet skating and shows a fully rotated quad twist which they performed at the 1977/78 USSR Nationals in Vilnius. It's a two-footed catch by him but this is the cleanest one I ever saw them do. It's at 0:43....
They did it at 2001 or 2002 Junior Worlds IIRC.
I seem to recall they did a quad twist at Junior Worlds (and won the title... so 2001, I think?). I don't recall hearing about them doing one in senior ranks though.
Didn't a pair in the 70's do a quint twist?
Wasn't that Cherkasova and Shakhrai? I never saw an actual program from them, but I thought I read it somewhere. They look so funny in pics because of the huge size difference haha.
I remember physically that they looked funny together. But I must have been mistaken - Wikipedia states that they were the first to do the quad twist - nothing about a quint. I find nothing about any skaters ever doing a quint.
It might have been the quad twist I read.. it was a long time ago.
My understanding is they were the first couple to do it.
I don't claim to know everything about skating but I feel really certain that no one has ever done a quint ANYTHING!
1987 worlds pairs: long program
Carman & Knierim
But it was back when she was tiny.
Just as G&G ditched the quad twist after Katia grew a bit.
floskate shared this:
1977-78 Marina Cherkasova & Sergei Shakhrai - Rotated Quad twist and Triple Toeloops
I thought Katia said they ditched it because it took so much energy for so little return from the judges in the marks. Many of them thought it was a triple.
^ I also remember this. They were going to get the same marks with a Quad Twist if they executed a perfect easier routine, so they went for the perfect routine since this was the Holy Grail of 6.0 skating.
I found it highly coincidental that they stopped using it when they did.
I believe she did say that, but I don't recall whether it was in her book or whether it was from an interview.
It was also true their quad looked a lot better when she was littler and lighter.
Did they ever attempt it after the 1986-87 season? That's the only year I know of when they did it.
Don't think so. AFAIK, Gordeeva & Grinkov attempted the quad twist 3 times in international competition in 1986-87 -- in the free skates at 1986 Skate Canada, 1987 Europeans, and 1987 Worlds.