Well ... I guess if you are capable of doing the quad, but have a strategy of holding back on it and are loved by the judges b/c you are a very good jumper and improving on artistry, then you can win all the marbles (at least on the GP circuit). I'm quadconfused Oh well. Kevin VP, you : Good grief, and KVP was never really a favorite of mine. Hope KVP continues to give it his all and wins GOLD at Europeans. Please... show KVP some love skate gods! The sexy-voiced one has time to improve and earn his wins (I do love his programs, but the free is still a work-in-progress -- he needs to do so much better with the choreo and building with the music). Oh well, Chan, the Brez, and the Gach officially loved by judges and can do little wrong. Will the Brez ditch his coaches? Who are those guys anyway? What-up with Ricky? Dynomite sp (judges didn't show him love). RD can land quad in competition too, but can someone please tell me why some skaters proceed to lose their triple axel after training and competing the quad??? Looks like the ISU still doesn't know what to do re judging quads or lack thereof, or failed attempts, or no attempts, vs excellent skating skills, vs so-so ss, and excellent jumping ability. FS, I wish I could quit ya... BTW, if someone (Sandra, Terry, Scott) is looking for "Silky Skating," why not send out an SOS to the unmentionable one?