Project Runway All-Stars: Villians. Razzle-bedazzle and snarky turkey disco!

Discussion in 'Off The Beaten Track' started by Matryeshka, Oct 26, 2012.

  1. danceronice

    danceronice Corgi Wrangler

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    I really don't get their logic on this one. I don't HATE Uli's, but it wasn't the one I'd have picked. And I would have sent Andrae home because between the colors and shape and styling, that looked more "Eighties hooker coke binge" than 'new disco.' (Did I just channel Michael Kors? I need to stop that right now. Maybe it's the tanner.) And BADLY MADE hooker coke binge. Wendy's meanwhile I would have thought they would ding for being TOO modern, not "not modern enough." You can buy that top, I swear. I would have had her somewhere in the middle and I think they must have flipped a coin for the third 'bottom' because Kayne? Really? Of the top three, I'd have probably (grudgingly) given Ivy the win though...I don't know, I'd have to watch again to see which one I'd actually go for.

    They need to stop doing "Seventies" challenges.
     
  2. my little pony

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    i dont like uli's dress that much. i love bert lahr's fuchsia dress but i agree that everyone has already made that dress. i have pretty much the same thing upstair. andrae's was a mess. it's like he's daring them to auf him and they won't bite.
     
  3. aftershocks

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    ITA with you guys that the top three looks the judges chose I would not have thought would be in the top three. Ivy's dress was unfinished as she didn't have time to complete the embellishment on the back top of the dress. I liked the color but did not think it deserved to be in the top 3, especially because I didn't get a sense of the 1970s. Of the 3 looks chosen by the judges, Casanova's clearly had more of a 70s vibe (I agree with Georgina tho' that it was not that unique of a design -- but I did like the straps he added on the back and the color, especially against the model's skin). I thought Althea's, Emilio's, and Josh's (of the safe looks I can recall) should have been in the top three. I think Althea's looked the most 70's inspired with a modern twist.

    Andrae's idea for his billowy jacket was again too similar to what he attempted last week, and he spent way too much time on it which didn't leave him enough time to polish the rest of his outfit. I think he is seen as popular, so likely the producers did not wish Andrae to be auf'ed so soon. He is definitely over dramatic when he receives criticism, but not as bad as he was during season 2. Wendy's top was interesting but the pants and the chain made her outfit look cheap. Unfortunately for Wendy (as she intimated), she was very nice and got along with everyone this time around, so it was not enough drama for the producers to desire for her to stay (plus she's not getting a lot of fan favorite votes either, while Andrae has more fan votes). I didn't think Kayne's outfit was that bad. I actually thought that Ivy's outfit might be one of those in the bottom since they didn't announce top and bottom placements right away.

    Uli is a good designer and she admitted earlier in the show that she wasn't familiar with 70s style in the U.S., so her outfit did not have a lot of 70s flavor. The judges actually had criticisms for all of the top 3 designs, so I don't understand why they were in the top three instead of just safe. Maybe seeing the designs live on the runway provides a different impression.

    One of my complaints is that during this week's runway show there was too much cutting and special effects going on so that we didn't really get to see a good view of all the designs.
     
  4. zaphyre14

    zaphyre14 Well-Known Member

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    I lived through the 70's (and still have some of the clothes in my attic) and NONE of those outfits, except maybe the fuschia dress and the chevron-striped pallazo pants looked very '70s to me. But I did like Uly's dress just as a dress. The judges ragged on Wendy's top but I thought the pants were the worst part. I'm not sorry to see her go as she just wasn't that interesting this time around.
     
  5. skatesindreams

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    Ironic that the person who admits that: because of her background/birthplace, she has little knowledge of Disco, wins

    The judges didn't know much about the era/challenge either.
    Wendy's look was closer to what was actually worn in that time period than most.

    If Ivy had time to really complete her garment, it might have been great.

    He seems "disturbed" whenever hearing the judges critiques.
    Although, in his case, most of what they've said, applies.
     
  6. Aceon6

    Aceon6 Get off my lawn

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    Another older than dirt chiming in. My disco dress was a one shouldered thing with ruffles. True disco inspired clothing didn't last very long. Maybe 75-82. It really was a sub-genre rather than a full fashion cycle. If you watch Saturday Night Fever, the guys' clothing stood out more. Dresses were dresses and there wasn't that much difference between something you'd wear to a disco vs. something you'd wear on a regular date.
     
  7. Rob

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    I totally used to wear something just like those pallazzo pants and camisole top (not sequined though), but I had a rhinestone adorned feather in my hair too! :smokin: When I saw Kayne draping the top, I thought he'd have it just right with a modern twist, but he reverted to the very 70s sparkly camisole -- kind of retro dated, not a modern twist.

    I had a pantsuit for disco that was very much like Joshua's except that it had a strapless top with a jacket with sleeves over it. And a Calvin Klein leather wrapped belt. I liked his.

    Laura Kathleen - I definitely had some gold lame stuff and I definitely had a jumpsuit, but the 2 pieces didn't go together. The jumpsuit by itself was spot-on.

    Ulli's was more 60s I think? Cute, but not disco.

    Casanova, Fuschia was a popular color, but the dress was a little shorter than what we wore to Studio 54 for dancing. But for a modern twist, I probably would have pegged him for the win if not Joshua.

    Ivy - yes, we wore chiffon with little underneath, but that was a bit matronly. I liked the color though. I really liked her drawings from the show where they picked the designers for her season, and then her clothes never measured up. I like that she has gotten a grip this time.

    Emilio's - nice dress, too long, didn't show the shoe, you and half the dance floor would step on it.

    Althea's - I liked this dress. It was more modern than 70s, but it was nice.

    Anthony Ryan's and Suede's didn't do much for me.

    Andrae - yuk

    Wendy's wasn't attractive, but it really wasn't too far off from what we wore in those days.
     
  8. Rogue

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    I actually agreed on 1st and last places last night. That doesn't happen often with me.
     
  9. my little pony

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    for whatever, i keep forgetting that this season of all stars exists
     
  10. PDilemma

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    I read this comment and thought...."what was first and last? What did they make? What was the challenge?"

    And I watched the entire show and even recall rewinding the runway show a time or two for a second look. So far this round of All-Stars has been a snooze. Boring challenges. Boring designs. No idea why I bother turning it on.
     
  11. merrywidow

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    I figured Suede would be on the bottom but preferred Ivy's design over Emilio's.
     
  12. skatesindreams

    skatesindreams Well-Known Member

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    As did I.
    I thought that Emilio's jacket looked "clunky".
     
  13. Rogue

    Rogue Sexy Superhero

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    I felt Ivy's was too similar to what she made in prior challenges, with a slight variation on the jacket. I've also never been a fan of short opaque skirt with longer transparent skirt, but that's just me.
     
  14. Jasmar

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    I loved Emilio's, which is the first time I think I've ever said that. I don't remember his odd lisp from his season. What's up with that?

    I also really liked Kayne's, and was quite annoyed when they called him with the other five, because I knew who would be top and bottom.

    I would have had Casanove in top three over Anthony Ryan's little striped dress. Casa's wasn't perfect, but it was so much more interesting than AR's, both in terms of fabric (painting and use) and vision. It was much more "wearable art" than the other.
     
  15. Reuven

    Reuven Official FSU Alte Kacher

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    Reuven can’t say Reuven is displeased about Suede’s departure.
     
  16. danceronice

    danceronice Corgi Wrangler

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    I really did like his (except the top), and did not get the dislike. It was a lot less chopped off than that one that stopped at the knee. And the vapors over "you're adding WIDTH!" Really? Where? Last season (IOW, like four or five weeks ago), didn't the normal judges go on about how daring someone (Christopher's?) avant-garde look was because he padded the model's hips to give her an hourglass shape? I mean, OMG, ONOES! THEY TOOK A SIZE 00 MODEL AND MADE HER LOOK LIKE SHE MIGHT POSSIBLY HAVE ADULT FEMALE SECONDARY SEXUAL CHARACTERISTICS! It's not like they were making her look huge or like these were even intended for sale to "normal" sizes.
     
  17. skatesindreams

    skatesindreams Well-Known Member

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    Amen, to this!
     
  18. ks1227

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    :eek: I thought it was nearly as bad as Seude's, and significantly worse than Laura's. :shuffle:
     
  19. dbell1

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    I love Laura Kathleen, so she can do no wrong in my eyes (normally). I may just have lingering love for her decoy collection (which to me was the best ever to not make broadcast). I wasn't a fan of her outfit last night, but others were worse.I would have put Josh in the bottom 3

    Kayne should have gone home for that mermaid graffiti disaster. Ivy tossed some words onto crap sewn onto chiffon and was in the top 3? I don't get these judges. And I totally have no clue who hillbilly 1 & 2 'guest' judges were. WTH were they wearing?
     
  20. skatesindreams

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    I still don't know who they were/are.
    After seeing them, I doubt that their designs would be of interest.
     
  21. danceronice

    danceronice Corgi Wrangler

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    They looked like the Red Green Show had a trunk sale (except on Red Green, they managed to be reasonably color-coordinated.)
     
  22. Reuven

    Reuven Official FSU Alte Kacher

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    Maybe they were modeling the Emmet Kelly collection?
     
  23. my little pony

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    :lol:
     
  24. aftershocks

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    Well this All-Star season doesn't seem to hold enough razzle-dazzle to maintain our interest, but there are two weeks of shows (Thanksgiving week skipped), we haven't discussed.

    I enjoyed Anthony Ryan's fan picture-inspired dress that won the week before Thanksgiving (his prize was a feature in USA Today). Emilio had a close second that week with his impractical but cool yellow and white fluffy puff of a dress. Laura Kathleen did a very good job with her water-inspired print ensemble.

    I felt sorry for Althea being before the judges that week for the first time in the bottom three -- her concept was interesting but the execution re the drop-crotch pants really suffered. Also, I was aghast at Joshua's strange but colorful mess of an outfit. He was lucky that the judges had grown so seriously tired of Andrae's shtick (ironically Andrae was eliminated for a similar picture-inspired challenge in which he had excelled during his original season). BTW, was that sixteen-year-old guest judge actually 16-years-old??!!

    In general, I feel sorry for those designers who get called safe so often and therefore don't have the opportunity to get feedback from the judges (especially Joshua and Althea who have had some good outfits called safe, but then have gotten nailed in the bottom three for unfortunate missteps).

    Last night's broadcast again was overall boring in the way they put it together. I absolutely hate the clueless quick-cutting during the runway shows which makes it impossible to enjoy viewing and actually getting to see a good look at all the outfits. Have to go to the website for a better look (but maybe that's their intent re the crazy cutting and special effects during the show). The androgyny/ avant-garde challenge was strange, but I think the judges' pick for the win was correct -- Emilio hit a slam dunk. Both of his models looked very hot as well as androgynous as they came down the runway, and they also could have worn each other's outfits. The color, the fabric, and the avant-garde edginess really suited the challenge.

    There were some good efforts last night, even among those called safe. I had hoped that Laura Kathleen would be auf'ed for her awful "cut-out" messes -- she's had a lot of poor efforts (despite a good outfit in the previous week). I'm kinda fed up with her clueless personality and her bambi-like eyes. I like Kayne a lot (despite his tendency to constantly "jump the shark" and do too much, often in a tasteless fashion). Still his outfits last night, while loud, were better than Laura Kathleen's. Kayne mainly made his worst mistake with the clash of yellow on the female model.

    In the new PR poll thread for the final three, every PR prognosticator seems to be on the same page so far, unsurprisingly. Right from the beginning Uli, Emilio and Anthony Ryan were obviously the best All-Star designers this season, and even they knew who their top competition would be.
     
  25. peibeck

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    :wuzrobbed: for Kayne. At least he makes for good TV. Plus I thought Laura and Casanova's outfits were far worse.
     
  26. aftershocks

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    ^^ Absolutely right. Kayne has even had some decent efforts that might have been called safe that the judges disliked. I agree re Casanova and Laura K should have been in the bottom two (Casanova's outfits did not come close to being androgynous or avant-garde, just costumey). I think Casanova got by because he is so well-liked by everyone.

    Hopefully, Laura K will be auf'ed next week. But again, the majority of all the episodes this season are boring :yawn:. The only scandalous "bit of business" the producers seemed able to fake-up was Kayne talking conspiratorially to Ivy in the lunch room about Laura K! And now that Kayne is gone, the Ivy/ Laura K b***h-fest is zzzzzzzz...

    I'm mainly interested in seeing the runway segments at the end, but then they don't provide a good look at all the outfits. The editing is so horrendous and schizophrenic.
     
  27. my little pony

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    ita,if kayne had sent her down the runway without a blouse, would it still have lost? i thought casanova's looked like cocktail servers at an oscar party in a cheap casino.
     
  28. skatesindreams

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    There's something about Kayne's taste level that didn't equal his construction skills.

    I suspect you may need to be androgynous to really know how to portray it.
    That said, I liked what Emilio did.
    I haven't always been impressed by his designs.
     
  29. aftershocks

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    ^^ True re Kayne, but I still find Kayne loveable, and I thought Laura Kathleen's outfits were worse than Kayne's last night.

    One of the more memorable moments in PR episode history has to be during Season 3 when Mychael Knight gave Kayne tips on how to walk the runway (that challenge involved the designers making outfits for themselves and walking the runway in them). They should use that particular challenge again! :)
     
  30. duane

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    Can't believe Casanova wasn't sent home. If the designer doesn't adhere to the challenge, why keep him/her?

    Emilio is showing that he is one of the best designers PR ever had. He simply gets it.

    I actually thought Althea should have been in the top-3. I thought her designs were both androgynous and avant-garde.

    Totally agree with the criticisms of the runway editing. I was like "WTF?????"