Project Runway 10 Starts Tonight

Discussion in 'Off The Beaten Track' started by FiveRinger, Jul 19, 2012.

  1. cruisin

    cruisin Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 9, 2005
    Messages:
    17,390
    Did she actually say that? :eek::scream:!

    Betsey Johnson is gifted. She works with quirky colors, but her designs are spot on. Her look is almost ingenue with a little something off beat. My daughter wore lots of Betsey Johnson dresses for special occasions, when she was in high school.
  2. skatesindreams

    skatesindreams Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2002
    Messages:
    13,751
    I don't think so.
    However, I suspect that that's what she hopes for - without the talent/ability it would take to actually do it.
  3. Moto Guzzi

    Moto Guzzi Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2002
    Messages:
    1,729
    I hated both outfits but, since only one was eliminated, am glad that Buffi is gone. Squiggy's piece of crap was slightly less heinous than hers.
  4. Sparks

    Sparks Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2002
    Messages:
    7,169
    Squiggy's pants made me squirm. :eek:
    dbell1 and (deleted member) like this.
  5. TheGirlCanSkate

    TheGirlCanSkate New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2012
    Messages:
    466
    "Didn't at all agree with the elimination. When someone who had already been voted off is allowed to return, and then immediately ends up in the B3...the heave ho!"

    I totally agree, but really would not have minded both Squiggy and Bufi leaving.

    And for Squiggy to be into men's wear - well - he sucks!

    Alicia's outfit was very cute. Not top 3 cute, but I think it is my favorite of hers. My daughter would love to wear it.

    I get Elaina's fencing thing, but who would wear that jacket that makes a model look so unattractive and bulky?

    Fabio - Ugh. Screams 1995 Contempo Casual.

    Melissa - I would buy it. I love thin layers.

    Nathan - aside from the breastfed baby poop color, I liked his outfit.

    Sonja's dress had weird draping under her boob/ribs. It's a cute idea - I bet Ven could fix the problems.
  6. shan

    shan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2003
    Messages:
    16,758
    I'm happy with the top 3 although I woudn't have been surprised if Ven had made it too. I do wonder if he will get dinged for not having much variety in terms of silhouette (hasn't he had dresses with similar fronts each challenge so far?).

    Each week I'm still :huh: as to who Nathan is when he comes on the screen.
  7. TheGirlCanSkate

    TheGirlCanSkate New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2012
    Messages:
    466
    He is not memorable at all! :lol: I had to look up his name when I posted it.
  8. ks1227

    ks1227 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2002
    Messages:
    3,839
    Thanks for that link. I have to say, that was one of the most interesting, succinct "insider's view" of the experience of being a PR contestant that I've read.
  9. skatesindreams

    skatesindreams Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2002
    Messages:
    13,751
    I thought Nathan had potential at the beginning - from his video intro, etc.
    He certainly hasn't lived up to it though.

    ks1227, I've always appreciated Laura's perspective.
    She tells it as she experienced - and sees, it.
  10. Matryeshka

    Matryeshka Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2002
    Messages:
    12,400
    "It's never a good sign when it's a button bag."

    I think it's a worse sign when Nina comes on the runway. :rofl:
  11. my little pony

    my little pony snarking for AZE

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2005
    Messages:
    30,405
    lol, i'm reading the most recent posts and i just realize that i have no idea who nathan is
  12. PRlady

    PRlady aspiring tri-national

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2003
    Messages:
    20,738
    :mad: I set my Tivo to record PR before the Olys. It didn't. I caught most of the last episode, that's it.

    Looks like we have the usual assortment of divas and decent people? And while I liked the winning dress from last episode, it wasn't out of this world or anything.
  13. Matryeshka

    Matryeshka Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2002
    Messages:
    12,400
    Well, no Roaul, they're not listening to you as they've seen your design.
  14. TheGirlCanSkate

    TheGirlCanSkate New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2012
    Messages:
    466
    Not knocking Ven, but looking back over his dresses, they all feel "Mother of the Bride".
  15. my little pony

    my little pony snarking for AZE

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2005
    Messages:
    30,405
    i think that was the first time snape smiled all season
  16. rfisher

    rfisher Satisfied skating fan

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2005
    Messages:
    40,355
    I think he has the best understanding of fabric of the entire lot. The drape and construction of his work is so far superior to the others it's ridiculous. He is much more conservative in his design, but he understands how to work fabric.
  17. my little pony

    my little pony snarking for AZE

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2005
    Messages:
    30,405
    i love how bored nina and joanna look before it has even started
  18. my little pony

    my little pony snarking for AZE

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2005
    Messages:
    30,405
    after last wks challenge and this wks, i wonder how many of these designers have ever met someone who has a job in an office
  19. Matryeshka

    Matryeshka Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2002
    Messages:
    12,400
    I totally agree with the tie. Fifty shades of grey and BLAH on both teams.
  20. my little pony

    my little pony snarking for AZE

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2005
    Messages:
    30,405
    i hate that hideous floral skirt, i dont care what the judges say
    she looks like after a day in the steno pool she will go to a funeral
  21. Matryeshka

    Matryeshka Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2002
    Messages:
    12,400
    Kors has lost it, or he knows Fabio will never be competition for him.

    What fifty year old would wear that off the shoulder thing, and in what office would you wear that?
  22. my little pony

    my little pony snarking for AZE

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2005
    Messages:
    30,405
    is marry ;) claire at work a whole second (and unspectacular sounding) magazine?
  23. my little pony

    my little pony snarking for AZE

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2005
    Messages:
    30,405
    i dont believe there was a tie, they seem to like the one team better
    i think it is so they can fire whoever they want
  24. FiveRinger

    FiveRinger Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2005
    Messages:
    3,837
    All I can say after that challenge is wow. And wow again. Gunnar and Elena both should be glad that Raul was available for another elimination. And by the previews, it looks like we'll get to confirm that Ven is a first-class ass.
  25. dbell1

    dbell1 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 24, 2002
    Messages:
    10,339
    Marry Claire will never go to work. Well, maybe on a street corner.

    Elena is such a freaking ball of sunshine. I hope they hid her sewing scissors.

    I'd have auffed the whole bottom 3 for fug and attitude. When the Loreal guy tells you to knock it off, you know you've crossed a line.

    As for the previews, Ven needs to realize that the standard woman is not a size 'skeleton'. And I hope his real life model tosses his entitled a** under the fashion bus.
  26. all_empty

    all_empty Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2002
    Messages:
    1,175
    Oh my god.

    I died when Daniel said, "I think Ven is one-way monkey ... oh no ... he is one-trick pony."

    I seriously snorted the peach I was eating through my nose.
  27. TheGirlCanSkate

    TheGirlCanSkate New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2012
    Messages:
    466
    I think Dimitry said, "I think Ven is one-way monkey ... oh no ... he is one-trick pony."

    :rollin::lol:

    And I think it's Marie Claire...
  28. TheGirlCanSkate

    TheGirlCanSkate New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2012
    Messages:
    466
    I liked Elena's jacket. The big sleeves are totally fun with those pants. The bottom two should have left.

    Ha ha about next week's show.
  29. all_empty

    all_empty Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2002
    Messages:
    1,175
    Sorry, I meant Dmitry, not Daniel.

    Perhaps a piece of peach got lodged in my brain lol.
  30. my little pony

    my little pony snarking for AZE

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2005
    Messages:
    30,405
    it is, we like to make fun here
  31. PRlady

    PRlady aspiring tri-national

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2003
    Messages:
    20,738
    I liked the jacket too. :slinkaway

    Sort of Star Wars and I'm not saying I'd wear it, too theatrical. But I liked it. The fact that she's a first-class bitch is besides the point.

    I've been working in offices my whole life. The pants that went with that jacket were wearable, and so was Ven's outfit and Sanji's blue skirt. The colorblocked blue-and black dress was fine except for the cutouts in the back. Other than that....not really.
  32. cruisin

    cruisin Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 9, 2005
    Messages:
    17,390
    Not much of what went down the runway was office appropriate. I got away with more "out there" clothing, because I worked in advertising, but in general, it was just off.

    I did like Melissa's dress, but as soon as I saw it I thought gee: http://www.neimanmarcus.com/p/Arman...ements%3D&eItemId=prod145940219&cmCat=product I do not think it was an office dress. More of a cocktail dress.

    I was not impressed with the crotch fit on Alicia's pants.

    I find Elena's aesthetic to be interesting, but she goes a little too "Dynasty" 80's on some of her shoulders. She needs to reign it in a bit.

    Loved Dmitri's dress, I would wear it. But, not to work. As much as the cut out is subtle, it is not work appropriate (not even in advertising :lol:). No skin at the office.

    Sonjia's skirts were very nice, but nothing exciting.

    I thought Christopher did a really great job working with fabrics that were meh. I didn't love the sheer print. But, the cutting and matching he did on that skirt was amazing.

    Fabio's dress - ???? What is MK thinking? It looks like a sack. I'm 59 and it's too matronly (except for the length). And the fit is weird. It bunches up around the waist. Can't figure out how an oversized shape can do that. :confused:

    Gunnar's was a train wreck. But, clearly he was unhappy with the fabric choices. I was really surprised that he let the rest of the group run over him like that. He is usually more outspoken. And I give him credit for not making excuses.

    Nathan's outfit would be great for a cruise, but not an office. Again, no skin at the office - no one shoulder, no strapless, no tank tops without a jacket or sweater over them.

    First time I really didn't like Ven's. It was well made, except for the jacket hem. But, boring. He may just be a one-way monkey. :lol: I hope not, because he is so skilled.

    Raoul, hiddeous! I've seen blouses with pleated ruffles down the front that work, his did not. It was off center, didn't hit at the right place on the neckline. He went on and on about his Aesthetic, but couldn't even pull that off. And he's a jerk.

    As much as Elena is rude, she's got talent. But she really needs to tone down the bossiness. It is not attractive.
  33. my little pony

    my little pony snarking for AZE

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2005
    Messages:
    30,405
    but heidi swears the cut outs are ok! she once visited an office for a photo shoot
  34. cruisin

    cruisin Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 9, 2005
    Messages:
    17,390
    :lol:
  35. Rogue

    Rogue Sexy Superhero

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2001
    Messages:
    932
    My thought was that he should have added a jacket, which could then be taken off when she went to Happy Hour after work.
  36. duane

    duane New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2002
    Messages:
    2,173
    Definitely. I think Team Six received the higher score, but the judges didn't want to declare them the winner because they wanted to get rid of Raul.

    Loved the dress, but totally agree. I couldn't think of any office setting in which I could see a woman wearing that dress.
  37. PRlady

    PRlady aspiring tri-national

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2003
    Messages:
    20,738
    I also agree, but you're in Philly and I'm in DC. Maybe in New York or London women in some fashion-forward industries, like advertising, would wear a dress like that to work.

    (I write this on a casual Friday in an already casual office. I'm wearing my "airplane" slacks which are one step up from sweatpants and a basic sleeveless top. Some office wear!)
  38. skatesindreams

    skatesindreams Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2002
    Messages:
    13,751
    Particularly, with the zipper!

    It was a discount store's idea of "designer dressing".

    I liked Ven's dress.
    I'm stunned by his ability to do such sophisticated, finished work in one day.
    Many would wish to be such a "one trick pony".

    The promo:

    He's not the only PR contestant to have difficulty treating a "plus-sized" client appropriately.
    Helping someone feel better about themselves may not matter on the runway; but, it is important in "real life".
    That's a big part of a designer's job; and something forgotten by most of them.

    Whatever happened, (to be seen) I hope he learned from it.

    I hope it doesn't "derail" him completely.
    He has a design "vision"; with the ability/skillset to back it up.
    Those are rare on PR,
  39. cruisin

    cruisin Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 9, 2005
    Messages:
    17,390
    Agree that there are a few industries where fashion forward works. As I said above, I got away with major trendy in advertising, in NYC. But, that dress was just too cocktail, even for a fashion forward industry (in my opinion), unless the woman has a dressy event afterward. I suppose, I got the impression that they wanted more of a generic work look. Not, high fashion, specific market. So, in that case, I think they missed the mark. I still liked and would wear the dress, however, just not to work :).

    And it's not just the designers. Some designers are finally designing for plus sized women. But, most department stores don't stock much. You have to buy them on line. Which means you can't try garments on for fit. And what the stores do carry, they put in the basement with housewares :mad:!

    I've gone shopping with a friend who is plus sized and it is really hurtful to have to shop in the basement, right next to the snack area. Like they think a plus sized woman can't be away from food long enough to shop :rolleyes:!

    I was in Bloomingdales, the other day. A woman came in, very upset. She came over to the register where I was chatting with a sales person who I am very fond of. We asked what was wrong and she told us: She was looking for a cocktail dress. She had gone to Neiman Marcus first. A salesperson went up to her and asked her if she needed help. She explained what she wanted. The sales person asked if she was looking for herself. She said yes. They told her that she should find another store. That Neiman doesn't have dresses for her size, they only go up to a 14. I felt awful for her. Apparently it was said very rudely. It could have been explained kindly. Can you imagine the nerve?
  40. TheGirlCanSkate

    TheGirlCanSkate New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2012
    Messages:
    466
    Ha ha! I guess I take it too seriously.

    :eek:

    I do think Ven does beautiful work and he drapes fabric well. It's just not inspiring or wearable for anyone over a size 8. Even an 8 is pushing it.

    I think Melissa is interesting - she continues to design wearable clothing that looks good. She has pushed out of everything black and while it's dramatic, it's not crazy dramatic.

    I did not understand the compliments on Fabio's dress. It wasn't attractive. At all. I can see is as a something a front desk clerk at a hotel's uniform - it would look okay at 200lbs and at 90lbs.