Premiere of Lady Gaga's new video today

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  1. olympic

    olympic Well-Known Member

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  2. my little pony

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    I love it! it makes me want to go back to spinning
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    FABULOUS! :swoon:

    The gays are already in a frenzy. :biggrinbo
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    It sounds fantastic! :swoon: :cheer2:
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  6. alhrayth

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    The video is blocked in my country but do I have to guess... "Express yourself"?
    Not impressed by this Gaga song, at all... too much noise, it puts me off trying to listen to the lyrics!
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    I didn't care for it.

    ETA: Love "Express Yourself" though :)
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  8. Anita18

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    That was my thought within 5 seconds into "Born This Way." It's practically the same chord progression. :lol:

    Those guys are :grope: And who doesn't love David Fincher?
  9. Cyn

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    :eek: It *totally* sounds like Express Yourself. Come one, Ms. GaGa, I expect better from you - you're light years more talented than Ms. Ciccone.
  10. BigB08822

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    Just a correction, the SINGLE premiered today. The video doesn't have an official release date yet but I suspect it will be in 2-3 weeks. They usually save videos to keep the sales up when initial purchases begin to wane.

    I like the song but it is very similar to Express Yourself (which people forget sampled parts of the Staple Sisters "Respect Yourself") but I think that was all intentional. It is a throwback disco anthem. I think this is just a single to garner attention and her REAL smash will be the 2nd single they will release before the album in May. It is apparently titled Judas and is about backstabbing men. Any fans of Kelly Clarkson think that sounds familiar?
  11. Southpaw

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    Lazy Gaga

    I don't know, maybe for these kids who were barely even alive in the 80s this stuff looks and sounds original but for us geezers....
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  12. michiruwater

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    All I could think when I heard it was a) This is straight-up Madonna and b) Britney's new song was waaaaay better.
  13. Southpaw

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    Alright geezers, remember this?
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  14. Anita18

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    This is terrible, "Born This Way" came on the radio and now I have "Express Yourself" stuck in my head. :rofl: :rofl:

    You've got to make him EXPRESS HIMSELF HEY HEY HEY HEY!!! :rollin:
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    Well, I love the song's message! :D

    P.S. Johnny's new exhibition?
  16. Cyn

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    Wheeeeeee Dale Bozzio - She did it way before Madonna or GaGa ever did :respec: :cheer2:

    I have this album (Spring Session M) on vinyl - I need to find a way to convert that vast collection of music onto CD :wall: .
  17. Southpaw

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    I think she kind of went batshit crazy, though. :cold:
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    The song itself is okay. I don't love it as I did with Bad Romance or Telephone on the first run-through but:

    Orient made? Chola descent?

    Highly inappropriate for a song about acceptance and no judgment on a person's gender, race and sexuality.
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    Thumbs down. The song sounds more like a filler and not one ready for a single release.
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    Total Express Yourself knock-off, right down to the gospel at the end. Heard the similarity the instant the chorus started the first time I listened. Just shows what a trail-blazer Madonna really is. Wasn't she talking about all this born-this-way stuff in 1986? I guess Lady Gaga is needed for a new generation (which means I'm getting old :shuffle:)

    The video should be interesting. Lady Gaga is as much a visual pop star as she is a musical one. Hopefully it'll be more fun and not so preachy.

    The Grammys performance is also being hyped more than a Weir SP.
  21. BigB08822

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    Again, Madonna took Express Yourself from the Staples Sisters song Respect Yourself. So her trailblazing was thanks to those that came before her as is true for everyone.
  22. olympic

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    Sorry for the misleading initial post. I thought a video was coming out. :(

    I've listened to it twice

    I guess I need my eyes opened. How is this 'Express Yourself'? It sounds more like rock n roll - guitar riffs, etc.

    Express Yourself was more electronic, softer, less edgy than this

    And I was a teen during the Madonna years and annoyed my parents with my allegiance to her,

    so I guess I know nuthin' 'bout music because I liked it. :)

    ETA : http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/02/12/us-singlereview-idUSTRE71B0BK20110212

    Reuters is giving it the thumbs up
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    Alejandro always reminded me distinctly of La Isla Bonita.
  25. olympic

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    'Hold it against me' ? She can't even sing anymore. :scream:
  26. phoenixflamezzz

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    meh. big old meh. maybe it was hyped too much (by everyone else and also by her own pr camp)

    the sentiment behind the song is nice, but someone posted this quote on another board, and it kind of makes sense.

    and yeah, poor choice in using "chola" and orient".
  27. BigB08822

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    Alejandro had an eery similarity to Ace of Base's "Don't Turn Around" I am sure there are videos on youtube comparing them.

    Here is one showing the comparison of BTW to Express Yourself:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eKAVVe1rXQ

    Here is one comparing Alejandro and DTA:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g--BGM9ty6c

    The second is less obvious and more about the beat, but the first is just hard to not notice but I don't think it is a matter of theft like some want to play it up to be.
  28. tarotx

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    I guess people would say it was thief because so much of Gaga is similar to Madonna.

    My take is that this is what happens when you have an idea of what you want to create and you allow the idea to rule instead of allowing it to be natural.
  29. orbitz

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    But Madonna's song was/is good. Gaga's song is instantly forgettable.
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    That's your opinion. :p
  31. michiruwater

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    She never could. The song's still way better though :p
  32. olympic

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    Since Madonna is being brought up here frequently, I have to mention that she hit the charts when I was a teen. I truly liked her, but we all should not forget the critics at the time [80s] were dismissing her as:

    1. a Cyndi Lauper rip-off [at least for her first album and accompanying image]
    2. Vocally, she was 'Minnie Mouse on Helium'
    3. It was only about the money and image w/ her.
    4. Her songs/lyrics were considered vapid according to the 'serious' stars of the 60s and 70s. [Mick Jagger said there was 'a central dumbness to her music.']
    5. Her image was blatantly copied from Marilyn Monroe ['True Blue' phase], and Marlene Dietrich ['Blonde Ambition']

    She seems much more respected now, but a lot of the stuff leveled at Lady Gaga sounds eerily familiar to someone who's old enough to firsthand remember both :shuffle:
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    You're certainly entitled to your opinion, just like me, but when I see/hear Britney Spears, it's the same thing - sexy blonde singing about sexy things, whispering into the mike, nothing edgy, a little slutty but nothing really eye-catching, not even a good voice

    :)
  34. mmscfdcsu

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    :lol: They are all kids musicians. If you were a kid when you first heard Madonna, you thought she was great. As an adult you may hang on to some fondness for the music. Lady Gaga is just the current one for the latest batch of 10-17 year old kids.
  35. michiruwater

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    And I was a kid when Britney came out :p

    Really, I just love the dubstep-inspired breakdown, which is definitely at least somewhat pushing the boundaries now, which Gaga is not doing in anything but her fashion sense. And Brit is the star of my workout playlist.

    I don't entirely agree that only kids like their music though. There are some great Madonna tracks, certainly some great Gaga tracks (Bad Romance is just awesome, no way around that) and some great Britney tracks as well.

    And I must admit, Britney's story makes me happy. There was a long time there where I really thought she was done for, that the obvious undiagnosed mental illness would ruin her, and to see her back on track making music and looking healthy and having survived all the manipulation and other issues from her childhood intact still surprises and elates me a little.
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    Madonna's music began to earn critical respect when her "Like A Prayer" album came out. It was her third album, and it was a marked departure from the high-voiced singer of her first two albums. It was considered her best work up to that point.

    Madonna had a sucession of stronger and stronger hit singles. I think Gaga had one good, extremely catchy song in Bad Romance, but every song after that was mainly dependent on her bloated videos to keep the public interest. Telephone and Aljenrao were mediocre songs at best. Of course only time will tell what kind of staying power she has, but she has yet to demonstrate that her music has grown or change.
  37. Zokko!

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    Who is Lady Gaga btw.? Just another attention whore which elevator muzak we've had the "pleasure" to "enjoy" 1000 times before, anyway! :blah:
  38. IceJunkie

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    I like Gaga and I like the song, but its not my favorite. I think the message is awesome, and I'm glad there are so many songs out right now (Pink's Perfect, Katy Perry's Firework) that are encouraging and motivating - and not just about partying, hooking up or relationships.

    It does sound like Express Yourself, but Gaga has made a career out of emulating Madonna. It's not a huge deal. What I've always liked about Gaga is that she seems to truly love her fans, and you don't see that a lot. I went to Round Up, a hole in the wall gay club in Dallas with a few friends after her concert last summer and she made an appearance. She got her start performing in small clubs around the country, and she repaid the club by showing up. She could have gone to some swanky upscale club, but she didn't. She opted to hang out in a small, no-VIP-area bar for a couple hours instead.

    As for Britney, I've always liked her. Yeah, never a great singer - she had a really good voice as a kid - but she had amazing stage presence and catchy tunes. You don't see that anymore in her shows for whatever reason. I don't know if she isn't motivated to dance well anymore, injuries, over-medicated...who knows. She also seemed like a genuinely sweet person before she got sick. There was a point in 2007 where I seriously thought she was going to die, so it's been great that she's been able to get some margin of stability back in her life.
  39. Sally1214

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    Say it sounds like "Express Yourself" all you want. But, I think Lady Gaga has another HIT on her hands.
  40. orbitz

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    It's currently no. 1 on itunes. I'm sure it'll be a hit, because she's the IT girl at the moment.