Pope Benedict XVI Resigning as Pope!!

Discussion in 'Off The Beaten Track' started by Lorac, Feb 11, 2013.

  1. skatesindreams

    skatesindreams Well-Known Member

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    The Church needs someone younger, energetic, and forward-thinking to lead it into the future.
    Given the age and position(s) of the electors, that seems very unlikely.
     
  2. bek

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    I actually understand the concerns about a long papacy. The pope can't really be deposed and you may be stuck with him for 30 plus years. Not to mention. Plus it can make the church to much surrounded by one public figure. Not to mention the issue of experience. Benedict may have offered the third way by retiring. Only Nixon could retire, and some are saying only Benedict had the "orthodox" credentials to okay resiging.
     
  3. skatesindreams

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    One can honor and be respectful of history and tradition, without being completely resistant to change and growth.
    I hope that such a leader can be found.

    I'm not a Catholic, yet I would hate to see the Church become an anachronism in the 21st century.
     
  4. MacMadame

    MacMadame Cat Lady-in-Training

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    Eh, I don't see that having less pages makes much difference in my reading enjoyment. I guess I was looking for something that doesn't exist. :lol:
     
  5. bek

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    While an American isn't likely some of wondering if O'malley who has a reputation for cleaning house may have a shot. Although OMalley apparently is not good administratively.

    The problem with going with someone very young is we don't know a lot about how they will handle running things. Also they really need someone with a well known record... IMO....
     
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  6. PDilemma

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  8. PDilemma

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    That is correct, those over 80 as of Thursday when the papacy becomes vacant are ineligible to vote. According to one article I read about conclave rules, those over 80 are there for the opening, the taking of oaths (for secrecy's sake) and one of them leads prayers, then they leave the chapel.
     
  9. milanessa

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    Why? That hasn't worked recently.
     
  10. skatesindreams

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    I believe that Pope John Paul II was 58 when he was elected.

    The youngest Cardinal is 53; hardly a teenager, or inexperienced!
     
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  11. Vagabond

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    Among the responses:

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  12. PDilemma

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    Yes. And I think we may very well see another younger Cardinal chosen. I just feel like we will get another surprise pick this time. Ratzinger was not at all a surprise eight years ago and speculation was that the cardinals would prefer an older man as a short term pope to follow the extremely popular and long reign before. I don't think, for all their faults and there are many, that the cardinal electors are stupid. They have to sense that for the future of the church someone younger, energetic and untainted by the previous scandals (or with a track record of addressing them head on in his sphere of influence) would be a wise choice. We have had a long stretch of elderly popes with Benedict's reign and the latter years of JPII's life combined.
     
  13. Ziggy

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    It means you don't have to load anywhere near as many pages.
     
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  14. milanessa

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    Okay, now I'm confused. I don't load pages individually - one click and I get to the next one. Does it take more bandwidth to have fewer posts on a page and more pages?
     
  15. MacMadame

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    It probably does, milanessa because each page has some fixed content that's always there. But the difference should be negligible for us because we have to stop and read the page and will always take the most time. (It might not be for the servers because they have to serve thousands of pages at a time.)

    Anyway, I was annoyed with someone who came into a thread saying "I haven't read any posts, but ..." and said something about how rude it was to do that in a 14 page thread. Ziggy's response was that I was doing it wrong if the thread had that many pages for me.

    So I'm trying to figure out if it's worth it to me to switch how many posts are on a page. Because it's sure not going to stop morons from coming into a thread with hundreds of posts and say "I haven't read the thread but..." :lol: But if it makes it easier to find old posts or see keep up with the flow of conversation or something..... that would be cool.
     
  16. AragornElessar

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    Considering the shape the poor man is in, more than likely, but that made me smile nonetheless. :)

    I was still up when the Pope made his final Sunday Address to the People in St. Peter's Square and since it's History, tuned in. Two things...

    The *people* in attendance!! I mean...Wow!! There was literally not a speck of space left for one more person there yesterday.

    Having never seen or heard one of these, we're not Catholic, I was fascinated listening to the Pope speaking to the various Nationality groups in their own language. Now, I do realize for the most part whichever language he was speaking that he actually did not know was spelled out phonetically for him to say on the sheaf of papers he was reading from, but it was still pretty amazing to listen to.

    Now, can someone please do a step by step explaination of how things go from here? I realize once Thursday comes, there won't be a Pope until the Conclave votes on one, but what happens between now and then?
     
  17. Ziggy

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    If you have more posts showing on a page, it means less time spent clicking the next page link and loading pages.
     
  18. Norlite

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    We can strike Britain's Cardinal O'Brien from that list.

    He has resigned following allegations of inappropriate behavior going back years. He won't be making the trek to Rome.

    http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/u-k-car...nclave-after-misconduct-allegations-1.1170394

    Also, this election might come sooner than thought

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/rel...Pope-changes-law-to-allow-early-conclave.html
     
  19. purple skates

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    My pages load instantly, even on my ancient phone. I don't really see the big deal about how your page views are set. :shrug:
     
  20. Ziggy

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    By instantly you probably mean 'after one second.' And that's on top of the time spent having to move a mouse to the next page link and then click it.

    Think of all the seconds are you wasting. :drama:
     
  21. purple skates

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    :rofl: I'll deal.
     
  22. milanessa

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    :rofl:
     
  23. Southpaw

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    Ziglet has clearly established himself as the Felix of the pair, his fate now has him finding empty church wine bottles scattered around the apartment and smelly mitres tossed on the couch.
     
  24. Andora

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    I'm not certain a "younger" pope will guarantee anything new for the church. Any younger priests I've had have often been more militant, and often less interested in integrating into the community. I figure they're just a shorter road travelled from the seminary, and that's not necessarily a good thing...
     
  25. PDilemma

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    That is a solid theory except for the fact that the youngest Cardinal is 53. So they are all far removed from seminary.
     
  26. MacMadame

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    And me on my death bed needed to maximize every second, too! :lol:
     
  27. Angelskates

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    A younger pope would mean nothing IMO, bek is younger and she seems to think there is nothing wrong with the status quo and isn't exactly what I'd call progressive. I think any pope of any age would be exactly the same. The Catholic church doesn't want to progress, nor do they seem to see a need to.
     
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  28. bek

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    I don't mind some change angelskates as long as the Church sticks with the deposit of the faith. Of course I would want corruption cleaned up....
     
  29. Angelskates

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    What would you change? What do you think needs changing? What changes bring about "corruption cleaned up" in your opinion?
     
  30. Norlite

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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21589982