Plushenko Wins Ninth Russian National Title

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  1. Iceman

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  2. Cherub721

    Cherub721 YEAH!

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    Oh, can't wait for the comments that will come out of that one... :scream: Remember people, all Nationals are inflated.

    Really great accomplishment considering many of the titles were won during the era of Yagudin, Urmanov, and Abt. :respec: Who else has won as many National titles in a relatively deep field? Kwan has 9 also.
     
  3. overedge

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    Apparently those biased Canadian judges are very influential everywhere :lol:
     
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  4. nubka

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    :plush::plush:YES!!:plush::plush:
     
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  8. DickButtonFan

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    It's amazing what he has done, it just shows you can still pull off quads and 3A's well into your late 20s and after countless surgeries. Plushy is awesome, it's so nice to have a skater who loves this sport so much.

    Take that to the haters :D
     
  9. ChelleC

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    The Russian Federation always preferred Plushenko to Yagudin.
     
  10. Moka-Ananas

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    because he can :cool:
     
  11. VALuvsMKwan

    VALuvsMKwan Wandering Goy

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    Like a dog that can lick its own privates? :rolleyes:
     
  12. Lavergne100

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    The absolute confidence that he exudes while skating is incredible. You can just feel that he KNOWS he can pull off incredible skating. I love Evan, so please don't take offense, but the fact that EP literally did NOT skate competitively for four years and still did so well at the last olympics, spoke volumes to me. Wow! I'll be glued to the tv if he's in the competitive mix again. I've missed him.
     
  13. Lavergne100

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    EP is one of my favorite male skaters. I love the artistry of Weir, but also love the absolute total confidence of EP's skating. Quad, triple, double combos are extremely underrated. He's an unreal athlete and such a charismatic skater on the ice...PS: I liked Dick Button as a commentator. Why isn't he on tv anymore? (It seems like I only hear him at the Olympics or something...??)
     
  14. Doubletoe

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    Three thoughts: (1) Gee, I really needed to hear this music one more time! :rolleyes: (2) Ever try holding a landing edge? (3) If the tech specialist gave Plushy credit for the two jumps he did after landing the 3Lz, doing a LFO 3-turn, then putting the right foot down, I am going to personally go to Russia and strangle him/her.
     
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    Come on, like him or not, but to skate like that after so long without competing is awesome.
     
  16. overedge

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    It hasn't been *that* long.....
     
  17. PDilemma

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    He's never been my cup of tea. But...

    --I think he's part cat. Which seems an unfair advantage.
    --If he skates clean with quads and Chan does his zamboni butt thing at Worlds and beats him...the proverbial stuff will hit the fan from the Russian fed.:watch:
     
  18. Garden Kitty

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    I don't particularly care for his skating style or most of his programs, but this is a sport that takes a real toll on people physically and emotionally and I definitely admire his ability to compete at a top level for so long. He's definitely a star, and skating is always better when it has strong stars and personalities.
     
  19. Holley Calmes

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    I agree. Good for him. He is good for the sport, and therefor I am glad for his success today. I'm also glad Voronov is back. I don't know why I like the kid-even with that hideous costume. But he has really pretty eyes and a lovely body. Glad he had a good day.

    Tried to watch both Plush and Voronov's FP, and managed most of V's but had to give up after Plushy's great jumps. Got bored...sorry.
     
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    Russian Figure Skating Championships
    1997 Moscow Ilia Kulik Alexei Urmanov Alexei Yagudin
    1998 Moscow Ilia Kulik Alexei Yagudin Evgeni Plushenko
    1999 Moscow Evgeni Plushenko Alexei Yagudin Alexei Urmanov
    2000 Moscow Evgeni Plushenko Alexei Yagudin Alexander Abt
    2001 Moscow Evgeni Plushenko Alexei Yagudin Alexander Abt


    1999:
    1999 Russian Nationals Evgeni Plushenko LP
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0jFij67_KQ
    falled on the first jump

    1999 Russian Nationals Alexei Yagudin LP
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOYoJKMBxeE&feature=related
    falled on the second jump and 1-2 other small mistakes.

    can't find SP for both


    2000
    Evgeni Plushenko 2000 Russian Nationals - LP Gypsy Dance
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbpjPPyWARI

    I cann't find Plushenko's SP and Yagudin's program on youtube but I have the videos. Yagudin had a step out in SP and doubled one quad or triple in LP. Plushy is fine with SP and doubled in LP but had a 432 in beginning.


    2001
    PLUSHENKO 2001-RN_SP_Boleromarks(NTV)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OUe9F0SDjQ

    No LP available on youtube but video shows he did 4T and 4T-3T-2Lo

    Alexei Yagudin 2001 Russian Nationals Revolution Etude
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZSZv7NDQMU

    Alexei Yagudin 2001 Russian Nationals LP
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZ4_O7wbKjI


    JMHO, according to the video, I don't think plushy win RN since 1998 till...maybe 2005? because of Russian Federation's preference.

    BTW, haven't seen this year's RN yet, but according to the score, seems Plu may rob Authur's medal because of Russian Fed's preference:lol: if anyone can tell me did he rob it from authur?
     
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  21. caseyedwards

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    :plush: :kickass:

    Still has quad and 3A ability!
     
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    I miss Dick Button commentating too, he used to commentate when abc/espn had figure skating but they no longer have figure skating on those channels for major events.
     
  23. BittyBug

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    You can put away your passport. That jumping pass was assessed as a 3L+SEQ and received almost all -2 GOE from the judges. :rolleyes:

    Protocol (link courtesy of caseyedwards)
     
  24. nubka

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    Nah, groping and licking are two different things. The dog would have to be much more limber... :p
     
  25. triple_toe

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    Good for him. Like him or not, trying for *another* comeback, complete with quads and what is still a fab 3 axel, is ballsy.
     
  26. skaterdelight

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    I loved those golden years of Russian men skating - strong, athletic, expressive and artistic. Not to mention Honda, Stojko, Candeloro who had such striking personalities as well.
     
  27. SkateFan66

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    IMO, Program Component Score of 93.66 (from a low of 9.0 to a high of 9.75) was a 'little' high. :slinkaway
     
  28. Spazactaz

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    His transition score is too high, haha.
    But he's still amaaaazing! Still one of the best 3As! Great performer, great confidence.
     
  29. shuilee

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    Plushy in 2012 reminds of Kwan in 2005. It's just same old same old and judges may get tired of his transition-less skating.

    I'm hoping the international judges will give him a rude awakening with fair PCS marks (mostly 7's for SS/PE/CH/IN with 6's in Transition), much like what Kwan got in 2005.
     
  30. senorita

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    Programs look rough although he might have added a transition (or two) since Vancouver, his marks were not connected to international reality but his levels look decent , he looks happy , I m not thrilled with the music choices but how can someone have a surgery and throw after some months that 3axel in sp is beyond my comprehension.
    And of course he keeps skating while platinum.