Discussion in 'The Trash Can' started by Cherub721, Nov 14, 2012.
Well, except 2000 Worlds. But granted he was 17.
I think that's when he learned the difference between skating smart and being reckless. After that he stopped doing his bit where he'd turn around and do the jump he just missed.
It's so weird remembering that era when Plush was 16-19. Like he's become such an epic figure in the last decade that it's bizarre seeing those old competitions when he was an awkward teenager.
I saw him win the 2001 worlds in Vancouver in person. He was just 18, and had learned from the mistakes he made the previous year. He already has such presence, and he totally commanded the ice. Needless to say, he got a standing ovation for his flawless LP performance.
They probably should've edited this fluff piece before airing it on primetime since everyone already knew he had withdrawn, damn so much drama.
Ice King Evgeni Plushenko
http://www.healthylivingmagazine.us/Articles/419/ interesting article
(greek article)Plushenko is the athlete who made even the most ignorant spectator to love him....http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1s0isiv
Plushenko deserved better finale
Plushenko: Russia’s Golden Son Lives Darkest Hour
Plushenko would like to be in the 2018 Olympics.
This level of competitive obsession seems very unhealthy, especially for a guy who supposedly has a happy family life and kids.
He may have said/felt it in the heat of the moment. I am sure he will reevaluate it objectively. I don't see any man competing in singles at age 35.
Katia Gordeeva wrote in her book that after winning gold in 94, Sergei wanted to compete in 98 because he made a mistake in their program in 94. I am sure many athletes want to give themselves another chance. Not everyone can, and I don't think Plushenko can, but he can always think about it (until it's time for the next Olympics).
Here's to keeping this thread alive another 4 years! I think we've all given up the right to doubt him at this point!
Whether he should or not is really for him, his family, and doctors to decide. Wouldn't shock me to see him returning to skate either the SP or LP of the team event. Easy 5th medal.
Bet it's bugging him that if he were able to skate he could have comfortably won the bronze and maybe even taken the gold. But all the criticism probably has him fired up more than anything. We'll see how he feels a year or so down the road. Be nice to see him actively competing in the lead up to the next Olympics but then I've been saying that since 2006 and overall it's worked out quite nicely for him....lol love this guy!
I don't doubt his willpower at all, but I do doubt that he made anything more than a tongue-in-cheek remark and one reporter deliberately twisted his words to make a story. It certainly wouldn't be the first time... example: Russian Nats 2014.
Yeah I can't see him trying to make a go of it in 2018. I think one of the main reasons why he came back this time was because the Games are in Russia and he didn't want to miss an opportunity to skate at an Olympics in his home country.
I would never count him out of anything. Didn't he say he wanted to try to go to the Olympics in another sport? It doesn't have to be in skating.
This article was really good! Probably the best American interview with him I've ever read. With a name like "healthy living" I expected it to be fluff. I would love to see him build a school and carry on Mishin's legacy.
^ Great interview. Thanks for posting. I agree. It's probably one of the best I've seen in US media. He did a video interview a few years ago before the 2010 Olympics with American media that's pretty good as well.
What I found most interesting about this interview is that he has no interest in changing the world or in this case Russia's views on many things. Of course people will criticize him for this, but I find it kind of refreshing. Just because he has rock star status in Russia doesn't mean he should take up the political issues the country is deal with. Furthermore, I suspect his reluctance to get involved is also about keeping his head down and not inviting any unwanted unpleasantness in his and his family's lives.
He was in politics before which did not end very well. He was disappointed that he could not do a lot so probably decided that is not his thing. I think I read somewhere that he had two proposals when he was still a member of legit something for St.Petersburg: one is about building more sports facilities for children; the other is about giving free public transport pass to women of certain status (pregnant or something? I forgot). None of them got supported in the parliament. We could see from these two proposals he is a man very concerned about the practical things instead of big projects which would certainly gain more attention.
It is nice for him to stay outside politics since he is just to straight forward about things and sometimes short tempered... With his vast experiences as a sportsman, he could really do a lot of things in Sports for sure and be happy.
Sochi: Russian figure skater Plushenko to have back surgery March 2
I'm crying!!! He was totally right when he said "I felt something snap in the back".
http://www.1tv.ru/news/sport/252755 look at the photo
Best wishes to Evgeni for a successful surgery and a full recovery, so he can skate again, not necessarily in competitions
Today Plushy will be on closing ceremony..
Evgeni Plushenko ‏@EvgeniPlushenko Feb 20
Mao - you was great, special thanks for Axel 3,5! You're real fighter!!
This message received more than 42.000 retweets!!! OMG! The japaneses adore Plushy, they made a God from him..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqKmVumc0b4 Plushy gives advices to Yuzuru.
""Dear, Yuzuru, today, you're the champion, more over your are the top athlet in the world. Not only in Olympic Sochi, from now on, I want you to take more medal. Your talent has been confirmed, you have what others dont. But, the most important thing is your health, it's my wish. NOW I'M YOUR FAN. Thank you."
japanese interview with Plushy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUIg4W4hn0c
Yuliya Lipnitskaya about Plushenko:
"I want to thank him a lot, without him, we hardly would have won gold in the team event. He did everything what he could, he won first place and thanks to him, Russia has won the first place.
My respect for him, Zhenya's a great guy. So many years of skating, so many the gold medals and another at the Olympics, for our country ...
I believe that to him is the most sorry, because he not could to skate on the individual competition, and especially how performed other men. With his good performance, I'm sure Zhenya could win first place ... pity."
In early March, Evgeni Plushenko will have a new operation
News which concerns Evgeni Plushenko, who won gold in Sochi in the team tournament, but due to back pain, he was unable to continue the fight in the individual competition and was placed in one of the Israeli hospitals. And as it became known, while on the ice, after athlete's jumping the broked the screw that supports the artificial intervertebral disc. In early March, Plushenko will have a new operation.
He barely noticeable limp, but on painkillers goes fast corridor clinic. Just from the doctor's office. Where it became clear that during warm-up before the short program's single skating in Sochi, in front of the eyes of whole world Evgeni Plushenko unsuccessfully completes triple axel and his face distorted grimace in pain at that moment when in his spine broken screw. One of the four, which kept polymer - artificial intervertebral disc that was implanted athlete during last year's operation.
"This information just killed me today. I felt that something had happened, but did not feel it could come to this, that I could not walk, I could be paralyzed," - says Evgeni Plushenko.
This decision - to withdraw from the competition - it is not only important in his career, but in life. Because each next jump could be the last.
"I was afraid that when I land a jump will pop out the construction - the four screws and vertebral disc", - says Evgeni Plushenko.
"This one whole screw, it is broken. He did not move, he just broke, for now, nothing has departed" - said doctor Ilya Pekarski.
"See, screw was broked and moved. And fortunately for Evgeni that it stopped. If it was going on, it would have entered into the spinal cord. He could go from there with wheelchair. This could lead to his disability," - said the director of the medical center Igor Piatigorsky.
One step away from a spinal fracture. Postoperative pains in the back, Plushenko felt from last spring when he began preparations for the Olympics, and they never stopped. And now they are only intensified.
"Yes, I can walk, I can move, I can squat, sleep, lying - everything is fine, but I have exacerbated pains. And because of this need to do something", - says Evgeny Plushenko.
Olympic champion will pass a comprehensive examination of the entire musculoskeletal system. Doctors emphasize that maybe not only the broken super-durable screw cause pains, but they are maybe also a consequence of other injuries.
Whatever is the strategy for the forthcoming treatment, there is no doubt that this year, here in the medical center in the north of Tel Aviv, Evgeni Plushenko will come, more than once. One of the main reasons for the new skater injury doctors call his forced preparation before the Sochi Olympics, and this time doctors do not recommended him to go out on the ice too early.
To remove a broken screw, Plushenko need a second a complicated operation on his back in two years.
"In order to remove it, there is necessary to remove a part of the vertebra, and it adds, of course, the patient's pain and complexity of my work. Bone, which will be removed, I do not throw it, I will put it in place," - said Ilya Pekarski doctor.
Recovery time - at least six months. Therefore, already transferred Plushenko's tour to the fall is in jeopardy. However, skater says now - it's the last thing he cares about.
Evgeni Plushenko: "I chose this way - to prove that I'm the best, that my the country is best. But, of course, now I do not want anything, neither to skate, nor any other things to do. I want first to pass all medical surveys, and only then I will decide what to do."
Now only thanks to the fans who have been waiting for him, but did not saw his skating in Sochi in individual tournament.
Evgeni Plushenko: "People, thank you very much. Sincere bow, we will continue on."
But such will be this continuation? Doctors cautiously predict that if the recovery is successful, and the pain will disappear, only then the question of returning to the ice for Evgeni Plushenko will again be relevant. But now follows the operation, the 2nd of March.
Some opinions on Plush:
- Plushenko earned the right to this unique holiday. He did his job well in the command start. Plushenko without Russia would be difficult to create such a significant lead over the competition. He played a major role in your victory.
For me it was a great honor to speak with Plushenko on the same ice. Now I want to wish him good health ..
Plushenko changed figure skating, raised it to a new level. I will say more : he is a legend of figure skating ..
Plushenko is to be commended . Remember how great the audience supported him during his speech . How love him ..
Jason Brown : " Just know that Plushenko wanted to perform " http://www.sport-express.ru/olympic14/figureskating/news/669252/
Sochi Olympics bronze medalist in team competitions Jason Brown spoke with Evgeni Plushenko a few days before his refusal to participate in the single competitions of the 2014 Games . As the American, Plushenko was set to speak.
- Recently I talked with Plushenko and I saw the fire in his eyes - leads Olympic news service word Brown. - I understand how he feels bad . I regret that he could not speak in the tournament because know exactly how much he wanted. I admire him so. He is the award-winning figure skater, and I hope he gets better soon .
Denis Ten: Plushenko should have been given a medal just because he participated in the Olympics...
American skater Weir : if not back, Plushenko would have won a medal
February 20, 2014 , Thursday. 22:12
American figure skater Johnny Weir , who works as a television commentator , believes that Plushenko would have won a medal in the individual tournament at the Olympic Games in Sochi, if not for back problems.
" Eugene - my friend , he always supported me in the competition , he's a good person . If the problem did not prevent him to go out on the ice , he would have won a medal . I was very glad to see him in the team tournament - he rode like a god " , - quotes Weir ITAR-TASS.
Sacha Cohen : Plushenko - this gift to the world of figure skating http://www.championat.com/olympic14...o---jeto-podarok-miru-figurnogo-katanija.html
February 14, 2014 , Friday. 12:05
American figure skater Sasha Cohen , who won silver at the Olympics in Turin , regretted the injury Russians Evgeni Plushenko . Two-time Olympic champion because of a back injury starred with personal tournament at the Games in Sochi.
"We developed a terrific Plushenko career, he is a true gift skating . He has won four Olympic medals and inspired many athletes and people . Always hard to watch , as a colleague struggling with injuries ," - wrote Cohen in " tweet ."
American figure skater Jeremy Abbott expressed respect Evgeni Plushenko, who withdrew from the tournament singles at the Olympics in Sochi because of a back injury.
28-year-old Plushenko Abbott thanked for his contribution to the sport.
- Behind him four Olympic Games and four Olympic medals - leads Olympic news service words Abbott. - It says a lot about his career. Thank Evgeni Plushenko for his contribution to the sport. It is a pity that he did not perform in competitions. Nevertheless, it remains the best in the business.
(Elena Ilinykh) "@Shindlerlist: With great athlete and the pride of our country! Zhenya, thank you!http://instagram.com/p/kkF-loKBvi/#
Nikita Katsalapov : " We do not agree with what they say about Plushenko " : Russian figure skater Nikita Katsalapov , http://www.sports.ru/others/figure-skating/157929260.html
Alena Leonova: Zhenya done. He brought 19 points in the team tournament - it's great. Plushenko hero, he's a real fighter and fought to the very end. http://www.gazeta.ru/sochi2014/2014/02/17/a_5912289.shtml
The famous coach Igor Shpilband : I do not understand why Russia is now etched Plushenko. Personally, I admire
Yuzu「The reason why I respect @EvgeniPlushenko,he continues to win. I hope to know such a real meaning of "1st place"
Also Yuzuru Hanyu, "I've gotten many excitement by @EvgeniPlushenko,I want to tell the feeling of gratitude to him."
Yuzuru Hanyu " I want to become a strong player like @EvgeniPlushenko "(Feb.15 at the conference )
Michael Weiss ‏@MichaelWeiss2 Feb 13
#littlecaredaboutfactrightnow - Plushenko's short from team event would be comfortably in 3rd right now...
Aw Plushy did a shout out to Mao. I thought about him when she was skating because I know that they are friends and that he admires her very much. It's great to see him supporting her.
I don't like hearing that he has to have surgery again, but I know it must be done. I hope it goes well and that he has a full recovery with minimal or no pain moving forward. I also hope that he'll be able to resume skating - exhibitions only please. Don't want him to re- injure himself by competing again.
To be honest, I am so worried about him that I think he should not do any jumps at all. Just enjoy the rest of his life with his family. This back situation sounds very serious.
Adorable photo of Plushy's son Sasha with all of his medals, watching the closing ceremony: http://instagram.com/p/kwtS2_lSNS/#
Mao Asada's official press conference before SP "My respected persons are Midori Ito and @EvgeniPlushenko."(Feb.17th) http://
I kind of agree. From what I understand he got back on the ice pretty quickly after his surgery last year, no doubt so that he could start training for Sochi. This time there won't be a Sochi to train for, so hopefully he'll follow the doctor's orders and allow himself the time recommended to heal before he even attempts to start skating again.
Cherub - Plushy's son is so cute. He must've gone back to St. Petersburg after he withdrew. Surely he didn't bring all his previous Olympic medals to Sochi. Lol.
I hope he can continue to skate after his surgery. It's sad that his body is letting him down. I highly doubt he was serious abut 2018, with his injuries and he'll be 35, seems unlikely. Better he retires for good now as a legend. He had two successful comebacks (2010 and Team Event 2014), hes' done it all. He has nothing to prove. He'll always be a legend. Nice to see him during the closing ceremonies.
It's always a joy to read this thread. Love the pic of Zhenya's son, the words Mao had about Evgeni (his support of her as well), and everybody's comments, especially coppertop1's post, ITA.
It'll be so sad when it's all over, but I know & suspect he will be mentioned in the future just as Michelle Kwan's name has been and will continue to be.
I know you posted this a couple of years ago, but thanks for posting. I just started the book today, and find it to be a fascinating read. So interesting learning how he started skating and what he was thinking after his Olympic win in 2006. Thanks for translating to English.
this channel has many Plushy's videos, montages. http://www.youtube.com/user/Plumi530
She made the Japanese Plushenko news videos. Some of them are really funny and interesting. For me this is the most entertaining:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7W9PDluwZ8
Look at Hanyu's face!!! he admires Plushy soooooooo much!
some intersting American !!!!!!!!!! videos and blog on Plush
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxjG5pGGVkI Good Luck, Evgeni Plushenko, with your surgery and her blog
http://dreamypoproyalty.wordpress.c...and-prayers-for-evgeni-plushenko-pre-surgery/ My thoughts and prayers for Evgeni Plushenko, pre-surgery
http://dreamypoproyalty.wordpress.c...-figure-skating-and-more-on-evgeni-plushenko/ Women’s Olympic Figure Skating and More on Evgeni Plushenko
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuBMCvN1Ppc Well done Evgeni Plushenko and her blog http://thefreedombulletin.com/2014/02/a-tribute-to-evgeni-plushenko/ A tribute to Evgeni Plushenko
http://ht.ly/2E84jR Winter Olympics 2014: Memorable Moments from Sochi
http://rt.com/news/olympic-games-sochi-heroes-366/ True Olympic Heroes that we'll definitely remember from Sochi 2014 Games
http://rt.com/news/sochi-iconic-images-olympics-369/Iconic images of Sochi 2014: How we'll remember the XXII Winter Olympics
interview of @KurtBrowning for russian TV - about Plushenko from 3:55" https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=728940563794019&set=vb.658290520859024&type=2&theater
Evgeni Plushenko tomorow going on medical examination and operation in Israel: http://www.microsofttranslator.com/...p://www.team-russia2014.ru/article/15949.html
a new montage http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ad_l1k9meNg Evgeni Plushenko - O Fortuna (Carmina Burana)
Evgeni Plushenko: the operation was assigned to March 3
Plushy also got a big Mercedes http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TB8Ldoa5BmQ
and new montages: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xf6wcoWzNKA Evgeni Plushenko - Gentleman
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3e5YkVqS94 Evgeni-Plushenko-Moves Like Jagger
I really don't know how many montages were made about him..try it, write on Youtube: Plushenko montage or Eveni Plushenko montage and so on...
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