Plushenko back in training: landing quad toes & triple Axels again

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  1. Sylvia

    Sylvia Whee, summer club comps!

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    Originally posted on August 17 by lala in the fan thread in the Trash Can via Plushenko News_Eng ‏@PlushenkoNews on Twitter:

    Original Russian news video that was posted in the "From Russia with love - Summer through Autumn 2013" thread (from which the YT video was made):
  2. caseyedwards

    caseyedwards Well-Known Member

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    Good for him! Let's see where it goes from here!
  3. cbd1235

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    Gotta admire what this guy is doing :)

    Beautiful triple axels in there! Hope to see them like that in Sochi
  4. skatefan

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    Thanks Sylvia! Plushy looks to be in great shape at the moment :)
  5. Vash01

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    He is simply amazing.

    I am keeping my fingers crossed that he doesn't overdo it and hurt his chances of competing in Sochi. It's a long season. I hope he can pace himself.
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    Ah-may-zing !

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  7. Eislauffan

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    He did say in his interview that he is not "rushing anything": http://www.goldenskate.com/2013/07/plushenko-reveals-new-short-program-at-training-camp/
    He has been through injuries and recovery from injury many times and hopefully he has learned his lessons from that when he came back too early. He certainly sounded like he is taking it step by step and also is well aware of the severness of his back surgery.
    You'll find more comments from Plushenko about his recovery and comeback in the story in IFS magazine's new issue: http://www.ifsmagazine.com/issues/201310
  8. museksk8r

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    Incredible! He really is an amazing athlete . . . a machine, really. I hope his health sees him securely through the Sochi Games, his 4th Olympics.
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  9. Jun Y

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    I feel bad for his knees, especially the landing one.
  10. Carolla5501

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    Does he have to do some type of qualifying event for Sochi or is he on some "grandfathered" clause.....
  11. NadineWhite

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    I've been following his progress off & on via lala's posts in the Trash Can, and am grateful (& hopeful) to see his team are taking it very very carefully, as it should be, *not* overdoing it. And of course Zhenya knows his body better than anyone else, period.

    My only wish is that He can go out on a high note, which would be competing in the Olympics in his home country, a fitting ending to one of the most phenomenal careers in skating history. He deserves it. Honor him.

    Jmho, as always. :)
  12. lala

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    He isn't a machine. :(

    Plush:
    I’m not a machine, I have a heart beating in my chest - not an engine
    there is a blood in my veins - not an oil.

    I knows pain and fatigue,
    I am a normal person.

    I cannot live
    without figure skating.
    Because my life is
    the ice.

    I have never tried
    to stop my improvement.
    The duty of a top athlete is
    to improve the sport.

    I feel that God destined
    my choice of paths in crossroads in my life.

    My dear fans,
    I thank you for loving me.
    I’ll keep training hard
    so that I can skate better and better,
    and that
    you could love me more.

    I don’t want to talk about the future
    or try to predict it,
    I just
    want people to
    remember me."



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVGRZLmIEIw
  13. misskarne

    misskarne Spirit. Focus. Ability. Tenacity. Aussie Grit.

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    His score at 2012 Euros is still valid I think. Plus he's up for CoR this season.
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    Thanks... I was just wondering if he could go to Sochi without any other "event" prior and it sounds like he might be able to do that.
  15. museksk8r

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    There's no way an athlete like Plushenko won't be remembered for his technical feats, his intensity, and his passion for the sport. His technical prowess transcended the sport to new heights, as he was the first man to attempt and achieve a 4+3+3 combination jump pass, all of the unbelievably difficult jump passes that are not seen from other skaters like 3Axel-step-3flip, and for him to be a 3-time Olympic medalist (1 gold, 2 silvers) in skating's modern era is the stuff of phenomenal legend. No other singles skater's resume in modern skating can compare really. He's the closest singles skater this sport has to a machine; I mean that as a compliment to his consistency and mental fortitude. He's the best competitor in modern singles figure skating in the world. Plushenko is to men's skating what Midori Ito is to ladies' skating. There's no doubt he loves this sport with every fiber of his being and the sport clearly loves him right back. I really admire him! Hopefully, he presents in Sochi a program the same caliber or better as his Tribute to Vaslav Nijinsky program from 2004, my favorite from him. I really wish him lots of luck! :)
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  16. Sylvia

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    I don't believe his score from 2012 Euros would be valid.

    ISU Communication No. 1797 states (June 2013):
    "The Minimum Total Technical Score (not including Component Scores) is a Technical Score and must have been reached in an ISU recognized International Competition (as per Article 38, paragraph 7 of the ISU Constitution and Rule 107, paragraphs 1 to 9 of the ISU General Regulations) during the ongoing or immediately preceding season in both segments"
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    Beautiful.:respec:
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    Beautiful.:respec:

    He will be remembered as one of the greatest skaters and competitors, regardless of where he places in Sochi.
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    Whether you like his style or not (I don't), you can only be impressed by Plushenko's technical abilities.

    He already has 3 olympic medals, and he might go to Sochi? 4th Olympics. He's amazing.
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    Amazing. Plushenko is truly bionic.
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    Just think that the year Ilia Kulik won, Plushenko was right there as the no.3 russian, winning silver at europeans with a quad triple, and a Bronze at world's,
    Had Urmanov competed in the FS at the worlds the year before this could have been Plushenko's 5th ;)

    Come to think of it, Yagudin was 3rd at that worlds and Kulik wasn't too far behind, Why didn't they get 3 spots ?
  22. Jayar

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    It was a different system then-- Russia had three entries, and all three counted towards the total points. Urmanov withdrew after winning the QR and SP, and it made Russia lose a spot. It was then that everyone realized that the slots earning system was flawed.
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    Jayar is correct. Urmanov's injury in the SP at the 97 worlds cost Russia the third spot in the 98 Olympics. The system was then improved with rule changes.

    This brings up an interesting point though. Had Urmanov not been injured in 97, Russia would have had 3 spots and 4 very good skaters- Urmanov, Kulik, Yagudin, Plushenko- all podium contenders (although Yags & Plush were young then). Who would have been left behind? What an awesome talent Russia had at that time!
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    It's interesting because Urmanov was Olympic champion but couldn't medal at a worlds after though might have been on his way in 1997. But maybe him being Olympic champion and euros wins made him safe. Then Kulik had a great 96 but slumped in 97. Yagudin and plushenko were extremely talented newcomers but plushenko was jr champion most recently. Tough to decide! Maybe plushenko because of really seeming the youngest? Just reminds me of the Christine Brennan theory that one of them would become azerbajani or Armenian or something but that's flawed because if they medaled it wouldn't counT for Russia!
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    You'll find more comments from Plushenko about his recovery and comeback in the story in IFS magazine's new issue: http://www.ifsmagazine.com/issues/201310[/QUOTE]W

    Eislauffan's interview with Plushenko in the upcoming issue of IFS is pretty amazing. He was so honest about the journey to get where he is now.
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    When Plushy says he not just interested in showing up for his 4th Olympics and "checking the box" but wants to stand on a pedestal,
    I believe him. and I also believe that it is actually possible, maybe not no. 1 but his biggest opponents have a reputation for inconsistency under pressure and where is the pressure greatest if not at the Olympics?? Plush has the killer instinct in competition and if his physique holds up it's anybody's game!
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    If he can perform as he hopes, more power to him.
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    He needs to take a seat. Stick a fork in it. Put himself out to stud.
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fydd6Pjjho0&feature=youtube_gdata_player

    I really like the "program" from last season (ie skating to the music, steps, element layout). It was so much better than 2010. If he skates like that in Sochi, then only a truly clean Chan and Fernandez could beat him. The top Japanese skater of the season and D10 would be in it for silver or bronze. I still contend a clean D10 could politikally benefit from the games being in Sochi.
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  30. Eladola

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    Plushenko's score at the 2012 Europeans would have had him easily winning the bronze at last years Worlds

    Not to mention stealing the small Gold medal from Ten for the free skate

    And he didn't even attempt a Quad in the Short there

    He is a fierce competitor

    Olympics are in Russia

    So yes, The possibilty for a Pedestal is defenitely there.
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    There is something rather sad about his statement imo: My life is the ice; I cannot live without fs; love me, love me and love me more.
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    U think THAT'S sad ?

    I wish i could get just ONE thing in this life i want half as bad ;)
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    Eeeeew.
  35. lala

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    Sad? You are weird. Have you find wrong thing in that sentence? This quote isn't new, do you think he wanted to bemore popular? Sometimes the popularity bothers him. but yes, his fans love him more and more. He was incredible popular, and he is very popular even today.
    If anybody follows him, knows it is true: " Without figure skating I'm nothing". His whole life is a big proof. He already has everything, every titles, unique carreer, nice family, a lot of money, fame, he is a real celebrity in Russia, the most known and recognized male skater in Europe and Asia, and I think in the whole world,he has own show, ha was not once TV presenter, if he wants can work on the Russian show-business. What more? And what he is doing? He is preparing for the final contest, he constantly has to keep diet, etc. If it fails, the enemies will say, now he is too old .. it would have been better if he finish on the top.
    He is originally interesting and highly intelligent man, who always sincere. ALWAYS! He inspires his fans continously.
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    and they said this program has another version, the 70% of the jumps will be on the second half of the program, Plush wanted to skate that version on Euros.
    His enemies love to say he hasn't SS and he won, because of TES points, and his consistency. But it isn't true. When the new system was introduced, he got higher PCS points than Lambiel or Buttle.

    for example,SPs
    1.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlGVCUwzb7I Plushy PCS: 39,85 + TECH 44,50
    2.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQ--iQuOBlM Stef PCS 36,3 + TECH 44,30
    3.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wi2m5hfzY2A Jeffry PCS 36,98
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    Oh, absolutely he will wind up on the podium unless he has to disqualify himself for some reason. I admire him greatly and wish him well, but I believe the Russian Fed is already polishing his medals-they just can't definitely manipulate which color medal to give him. Sounds cynical, but not farfetched. I actually do hope he wins a medal at Sochi, and I truly hope that if it isn't gold, he will show himself to be the champion we all want him to be by not b******* about it.

    Edited to say that I also would love for him to unveil a grown-up haircut for the Olympics. :D
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    wrote a Yagudin fan..:D
    hmmm. Maybe you don't know, in Russia doesn't everybody want to his come back. Do you remember Tarasova and her pupil Kovtun? Tarasova is very influental in Rus. skating world. Some people says, Plushy was attacked by Zhurankov after Euros 2013, but that wasn't random, in the background worked the politics..so I'm sure, Plushy has to win clearly in the COR ,Russian Nat Champ, and Euros.
    And I'm sure some people will wrote bad things about him here, whatever he is doing..
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  39. museksk8r

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    I agree . . . I really quite enjoyed that program; there's no doubt in my mind that if he had skated this program cleanly in Vancouver, he would easily have been a double Olympic gold medalist. He completes the jumps like they are so easy back to back to back; it really is an incredible sight. He does interpret the music in this program far better than the programs he displayed in Vancouver. Evgeni, IMO, has grown more youthful and handsome looking with age. I may have a little crush developing on him. :)
  40. Cherub721

    Cherub721 YEAH!

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    Exactly, he has so much to lose by coming back, but he does it because he really loves skating and competing. I totally disagree with the people that imply that his coming back means he's a loser who can't find success and accolades anywhere else. He has a lot of opportunities in the Russian entertainment world (in which his wife is well connected and he met her during the Eurovision project). I see him being quite humble in his Sochi endeavor actually. He isn't losing sight of where his success came from. Life is comfortable for the popular pro skaters in Russia, and that's a life he entered 7 years ago, only to come back when he could've just left his gold medal legacy intact. I can think of several US skaters who have talked about training and coming back, but don't actually do it, just seem to use it to keep their name out there. I believe at 2012 Euros Plushy talked about his choice not to do the quad in the SP and figured he would not even make the final group with all the talent out there.. but what do you know, they all fell and he finished second and went on to win gold. I also appreciate that he constantly talks about his rivals, by name (not just country), both the ones from the 90s and the ones from today. There was some video floating on youtube where he was listing them all from Stojko and Kulik to Chan... really amazing and I think he respects all of them.