Phil Ramone

Discussion in 'Off The Beaten Track' started by PeterG, Nov 16, 2013.

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Which Of These Works Involving Phil Ramone Do You Enjoy?

  1. Peter, Paul and Mary – Leaving On A Jet Plane

    16 vote(s)
    57.1%
  2. Procol Harum – Whiter Shade of Pale

    15 vote(s)
    53.6%
  3. Dusty Springfield – The Look Of Love

    8 vote(s)
    28.6%
  4. Paul Simon – Kodachrome, Loves Me Like A Rock, 50 Ways To Leave Your Lover

    16 vote(s)
    57.1%
  5. Phoebe Snow - Poetry Man

    4 vote(s)
    14.3%
  6. Judy Collins - Send In The Clowns

    5 vote(s)
    17.9%
  7. Barbra Streisand – Evergreen and The Way He Makes Me Feel

    5 vote(s)
    17.9%
  8. Billy Joel – Just The Way You Are, Only The Good Die Young, Etc.

    14 vote(s)
    50.0%
  9. Julian Lennon – Valotte and Too Late For Goodbyes

    3 vote(s)
    10.7%
  10. Madonna - Crazy For You

    4 vote(s)
    14.3%
  11. Cyndi Lauper - Change of Heart

    5 vote(s)
    17.9%
  12. Gloria Estefan – Here We Are and Coming Out Of The Dark

    3 vote(s)
    10.7%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. PeterG

    PeterG Argle-Bargle-ist

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    I finished reading a book about Karen Carpenter recently and one interesting part was about how Karen was recording an album with Phil Ramone in 1979 and 1980. It was just after Ramone had won a Grammy for Record of the Year with "Just The Way You Are" for Billy Joel. Because of family disdain for the work, that album didn't see the light of day until 1996. Anyway, today I saw in an older issue of Entertainment Weekly that Ramone passed away on March 30th. He did a lot of amazing work beginning in 1960 with Ben E. King (engineering work that he did not receive credit for until many years later). Ramone had his biggest success with Billy Joel, producing the albums The Stranger, 52nd Street, Glass Houses, Songs In The Attic, The Nylon Curtain, An Innocent Man and The Bridge. Ramone also co-produced the Paul Simon albums Still Crazy After All These Years (for which he won a Grammy) and One Trick Pony. Below are some of the songs (other than what is in the poll) that he either produced, engineer or was musical supervisor. What a talented man!

    Ben E. King – Spanish Harlem
    Lesley Gore – It’s My Party
    Dionne Warwick – Do You Know The Way To San Jose
    Harry Nilsson – Everybody’s Talkin’
    B. J. Thomas – Raindrops Keep Fallin’ On My Head
    Gordon Lightfoot – If You Could Read My Mind
    Albert Hammond – It Never Rains In Southern California
    Paul McCartney and Wings – Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey
    Paul Anka – Times Of Your Life
    Chicago – Alive Again and No Tell Lover
    Karen Carpenter - Make Believe It's Your First Time
    Michael Sembello – Maniac and Automatic Man
    Stephanie Mills - How Come U Don't Call Me Anymore?
    Journey – Only The Young
    Eddie Rabbit and Juice Newton - Both to Each Other (Friends and Lovers)
    Jon Secada – Just Another Day and Angel
    Sinead O’Connor - Success Has Made a Failure of Our Home
    Frank Sinatra – Duets album
    Natalie Cole – Stardust album
    Tony Bennett and Lady Gaga – The Lady Is A Tramp
     
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  2. Aceon6

    Aceon6 Get off my lawn

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    Ramone pushed many of the recording techniques we take for granted into mainstream use - overdubbing, producing songs designed to chart in multiple genres, as well as the use of the full range of musical instruments.

    As for your poll, I believe Spanish Harlem is one of his most important contributions.
     
  3. Coco

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    That is an amazing range of beautiful music!
     
  4. AragornElessar

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    Wow...I am just amazed at just how much influence he had in helping to form the soundtrack to so many of our lives. I never knew that about Phil Ramone, I know I can't be the only one and what a sad shame is that?
     
  5. halffull

    halffull halffull kind of day

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    Thanks for sharing this PeterG. I'm with Coco, an amazing range of beautiful music :)
     
  6. KHenry14

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    However, not all his work was great. His work with Chicago on "Hot Streets" was a hot mess. Weird guitar sound, lousy horn arrangements, and an overall tinny sound makes that album strange at best.

    With that said, his work with Billy Joel was superb, and there's no denying his track record.
     
  7. LilJen

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    So utterly clueless about music producers, but I remember being all :swoon: over Valotte. I played it (cassette) on my Walkman over and over as a teen. Along with my Cars tape (cassette). . . :shuffle:
     
  8. Coco

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    I still have a cassette player in my car! Garage sales are great to get old cassettes at. It's still a great format!
     
  9. PeterG

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    A few other things I've learned about Phil Ramone:

    * was a violin prodigy and studied at Julliard (he began playing at three and performed for Princess Elizabeth at age ten)

    * opened his own recording studio before he was 20

    * Won 14 Grammy awards

    * produced Ray Charles' final studio album, "Genius Loves Company" (which ended up going three times platinum)

    * was a trustee of the MusiCares Foundation, one of its' purposes being for musicians to have a place to turn in times of financial, personal, or medical crisis

    * credited with having recorded Marilyn Monroe's (intoxicated( version of "Happy Birthday to You" to President John F. Kennedy

    * also produced recordings for produced are Clay Aiken, Burt Bacharach, The Band, Bono, Laura Branigan, Bob Dylan, Sheena Easton, Aretha Franklin, Elton John, Quincy Jones, B.B. King, Shelby Lynne, Barry Manilow, Richard Marx, George Michael, Liza Minnelli, Anne Murray, Olivia Newton-John, June Pointer, Diane Schuur, Carly Simon, Rod Stewart, James Taylor, The Guess Who and Stevie Wonder

    One lesser known thing was that Ramone and his wife Karen Kamon were a great support system to Karen Carpenter as she was attempting to overcome her anorexia. Karen Kamon actually lived with Carpenter while she did therapy with a specialist in anorexia and Carpenter lived with the Ramones at times as well. This was after Carpenter shelved the album she worked on with Ramone. So Phil sounds not only incredibly accomplished, but not with such a big ego that he couldn't be a support person to someone who shelved the work he spent a year or so working on with her. By the way, some of you might remember this Karen Kamon song (Manhunt) from the Flashdance Soundtrack.
     
  10. LilJen

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    I remember Manhunt. :shuffle: I used to dance to the Flashdance soundtrack. Complete with sweatshirt falling off one shoulder.