Discussion in 'Great Skate Debate' started by jiggs, Nov 17, 2011.
Well, I honestly feel like nothing can save her now...but good luck to her with Orser.
I hope that he can help her.
Best of luck to her.
It's not so much her skating....it's her "head" that's the problem. Microwave popcorn doesn't pop as much as she does. I hope he can teach her to control her nerves. I really would like to see her skate to her potential.
I'm surprised she's taking the leap and leaving Québec! However, I think the change of training in a new atmosphere will help re-motivate her.
I think having world class competitors around her on a daily basis will help, as will a new environment. If she is away from her old habits, it may help her to focus more on training. Good luck to her, as she certainly has the potential if she can overcome her nerves. Solid training is the first step to accomplishing that.
Good luck to her. I had long given up on her but she has some fantastic basics, some of the best, and will be interesting to see if she can live up to her past potential with the new change. I won't hold my breath but I do agree with Thompson in that article that she has the potential to be another Joannie.
Good luck to Cynthia. I think she waited a bit too long, but you never know.
YEAH BABY!!!! Amaaazing move on her part! Nothing bad can come out of this, cuz she's already reached the lowest point this season with her latest FP performance (triple toes only? Really?) it seams like orser is somehow making gedevanishvilli less if a headcase with each outing, and maybe he can do the same to her
But first thing's first: GET HER NEW PROGRAMS
I really hope this will help Cynthia. Good luck to her.
YEAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH (i skate at the CC).
Ohhhhh, this is fantastic news. Here's to hoping for a fruitful pairing. I do wish this had taken place earlier in the season, but better now than later (or not at all). Good luck Cynthia. Best wishes to you.
I'm happy to hear this! I hope it works out for her.
And new costumes, please.
I think this is a great move. I hope it helps her to leave a place that may have become too comfortable and where she's obviously not improving anymore.
Good luck to her!!
Perhaps a new set of eyes and coaching will help Phaneuf, but I think she mainly needs to find the motivation within to succeed. I wish her luck on her new journey though.
Great for Cynthia, but I, too, am very surprised that she left Barabe and co.
Best of luck to her!
Okay, this is good. If there's anyone out there that can help, it's Brian. Good luck to her. I have to admire her tenacity. It's been a tough go since she came back from her injury (seems long ago).
HALLELUJAH ! ! ! ! ! !
I never thought this would happen but it's just about the ONLY thing that could allow her to finally reach her potential. Best of luck to you, Cynthia.
Agree, but this is an excellent first step at least - she wouldn't uproot herself at this point in her career if she didn't care. Good news!
Great news! Orser has helped Gede a lot with consistency since she switched, hopefully he can do the same for Cynthia!
Orser will do wonders for Phaneuf
... I am assuming, of course, that Brian is also secretly a phychologist/hypnotist
Brian is all kinds of awesome. But I have my doubts about Cynthia.
Cynthia has the motivation for an Olympic medal in the team event. She has to know that ladies is Team Canada's weak link and pressure will be on her not to dissolve on the ice.
I'm happy to see a Canadian skater actually train with Orser. What took so long? Reynolds should head out east too.
Put me in the camp that thinks Brian will be good a good fit for her.
I hope this works for her but I do too think this change should have been made long time ago, hopefully a new style and approach to her skating can be done under Brian´s coaching
Have to say Im utterly shocked by this decision, but good for her to finally make a move! Was wondering why Annie wasnt with her this past weekend at NHK.
shes 23 already, tough to change your training habits at that age, especially when youve only had one coach your entire career. Josee Chouinard was a similar age when left Quebec for Toronto and had mixed results. Some coments from Josee shortly after the move: http://www.kurtfiles.com/articles/article.php?id=90&cat=SOI
BTW, a big thank you to Teenes for keeping such an amazing archive. This article was a fun trip down memory lane!
Hmmmmm....I've been fed up to here with Cynthia's failure to compete. But, hey, I had the same disdain for Gedevanishvilli and, in my estimation, SHE has turned it around completely and skates like a new woman. Bravo, Elena.
If Brian has the same success with Phaneuff, he's a miracle worker. Go Brian!
(at least he gives me a reason to watch Phaneuff instead of using her time on the ice as my bathroom break)
When in doubt, seek Brian out. At least she hasn't gone to Morozov (yet).
Dear Mr. Orser,
While working on Cynthia's training habits and jump technique under pressure might be a top priority, might I also make a small costume-related suggestion? Please ban all sleeveless dresses with chokers from Cynthia's wardrobe. They make her look like she has no neck, questionable posture and linebacker-sized shoulders.
I also felt they acted like self-fulfilling prophecies every time she'd ...well...choke in one of her programs
It has always seemed to me that Barabe et al have taken a gentle, "motherly" approach with Cynthia.
I have a feeling that Orser will either break her or fix her. And at this stage in her career that's probably OK.
I'm shocked she's left Barabe. But good for her for doing so. Though I suspect it's too late. She should have done this years ago IMO (same goes for Jessica Dube).
I think Barabe is way too coddling/mothering of her students and they haven't really shown any improvement in their skating in *years*.
I also hope Orser will make her get new costumes. Her LP costume is beyond hideous.
I'm wondering if this move was instigated by Cynthia herself, Wilson or Skate Canada?
Fabulous news. Agree with many that her head's the issue, but I think finally cutting Annie's apron strings is a very positive step in that regard.
Of course I'm only going by what I observed in practice, at the boards and around competitions, but I always had the impression that Cynthia was treated like a little princess in that camp, and coddled too much. Hopefully Brian will bring out the athlete and competitor in her, while David retains the charm and personality that put her on the map int he first place.
Can't wait to see the results.
Louis and Rafter we were posting at the same time - looks like we're all in agreement!
As far as choreography goes she will still be working with Wilson so I don't see much change there in the future. Also not sure how much input Brian will put in costumes. But if she starts skating like she actually enjoys it and stops choking the choreography and costumes might become more impressive.
It has been my understanding, in part based on interviews on TV with her, that Cynthia designs her own costumes. That could be a challenge but Brian was quoted regarding costume design for Fernandez so perhaps we may see some modification.
Hopefully. Her look is too severe which might work if she was gutsy and attacked her programs but since she doesn't...
I agree. Making such a big change at this point in her career takes guts - good for Cynthia!
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