Patrick Uber Thread - Chiddy Biddies Think Chan Can

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  1. coppertop1

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    Thank you for this. Seriously, we wonder why athletes are so hard and we're thinking he should explain what happened or that we feel he should explain. Are fans really that entitled that we feel skaters can't have bad day? Patrick didn't fail to to deliver on a contract, or a promise. He won silver and had a lacklustre performance on a night where no one went for it. Let's ease up, it's not like he lost something that belonged to us.

    A petition asking for a second gold medal for Patrick? Sorry, I don't buy into that. Yes, Hanyu fell but to say Patrick deserved to win is very, very debateable. He had lots of little errors that added up and it really wasn't an OGM performance either. Second gold medals should be done sparingly. I don't think this cuts it. Hanyu had a big enough lead that he could stay ahead.
  2. professordeb

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    After the heartbreak of watching Patrick skate his free, I am still sad but only on his behalf. I understand how much he wanted to bring the gold to Canada, being a perfectionist I hate it when I can't perform my best at whatever I'm doing.

    On the bright side, his competition is now over. I am hoping he can take some time and relax. Maybe go and watch Tessa & Scott in the free tomorrow (Monday), cheer on the Canadian ladies when they compete later this week, maybe just hang with Scott when they are both done. Take in a few events together, savor the feeling of being at their second Olympics. Take lots of photos, maybe "journal" a bit. I wish him the opportunity to experience the games now that his "job" is finished.

    I am thrilled he has two Olympic medals -- TWINS! Sending out nothing but good feelings and love to our PChiddy!!
  3. IceAlisa

    IceAlisa Port de bras!!!

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    So is he retiring or not? I am so hopeful that he sticks around. I haven't had enough of PChiddy yet.
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  4. clarie

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    I hope he sticks it out for another couple of years. He's so young and such a wonderful skater that he can still win more competitions and retire on a high note....not that bringing home a silver is "low", but just for his sake (and the sake of his fans who love his skating). I'm selfish, I don't went him to retire yet :(.
  5. coppertop1

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    Maybe be should take the year off, and refresh himself, away from the critics. I think maybe he wanted the gold a bit too bad, instead of letting it happen. Still, two silvers. Good on you, Patrick! Anyone who bashes him doesn't get quality.

    I don't want him to retire either :(
  6. fscric

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    I am confused, why are we asked to get over it? Can't we Patrick fans feel sad for him? As for the petition comment, I can't believe someone would take it literally, I was taking a jab at those who have harassed Patrick over the last few years, who have said repeatedly that a programme with multiple falls shouldn't win a competition regardless of how the others skated but have now kept silent when it's not Patrick who fell and won, my anger is directed toward those double-standard, hypocritical so called figure skating fans.

    As for his future, I am of the opinion that Patrick should take a break and pursue his education which has been put on hold for too long, explore his other interests and enjoy life for a while. If he felt like returning to competition, he would do so, otherwise, there's no point returning unless he wants to be another Takahashi.
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  7. puglover

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    Patrick should obviously do what he wants and nothing else should matter. I think he should take a bit of time and figure out his feelings. If he can leave, looking at his whole body of work since childhood, know he has made a tremendous contribution to the sport, and feel good about moving on then that is what he should do. It can be hard to move on after a disappointment and if that is going to follow him, then I hope he comes back without the pressure of the last four years and leaves on a high. JMHO.
  8. coppertop1

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    Many people who criticize Patrick have said shows the flaws of this system and he wouldn't win under the old 6.0 system. In truth, Patrick does the opposite: This system rewards the quality of his skating. I remember being surprised that he added the quad, but I was happy he did it as a challenge for himself and not to silence the critics. Taking a break might be what Patrick needs. He's so hard on himself because he's a perfectionist. I'm sure he'd love a do-over of his skate, as would most of the men.
  9. manhn

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    Critics also forget that compulsory figures was once part of the "old" 6.0 system. Yeah, Patrick would really suck at figures...
  10. shutterbug

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    Lovely photo of Patrick with his medal

    Count me among those who would like Patrick to continue as an amature for another couple of seasons. IMHO, he's just starting to scratch the surface of what he can do artistically, and skating in shows won't offer the same opportunity to create memorable programs. But, if he chooses to continue competing he has to get some technical help. I would suggest that he go back to the man who taught him the 3A and quad in the first place - Doug Leigh. Barrie is just a 4 hour drive from Detroit, and I believe Doug is only doing consuting work now, so Patrick would be able to continue most of his training at DSC and keep Kathy on as his primary coach.

    I hope spending time watching other athletes compete and hearing stories from people like moguls skier Alex Bilodeau who was routinely bested by Mikael Kingsbury in the events leading up to Sochi, or speedskater Bri Tutt who overcame horrible injuries following a training accident in late 2012, reignites his passion for competition.

    Also, to say that if Canada couldn't win a gold medal with Patrick it's never going to happen is just silly. There's no way to tell. We have two very talented youngsters coming up in Nam Nguyen and Roman Sadovsky. Lots of potential with these little guys. Roman has already been compared to a young Patrick in terms of his ice coverage. You just never know. :)
  11. algonquin

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    I think that if a Canadian men ever wins the gold, it will be an unexpected or surprise win, in other words not from someone excepted to break the "curse".

    ETA - like Sarah Huges in 2002, but hopefully with better skating skills. ;)
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    I know, and he's been working on other quads too. And landing them! and i'd love him to work on his axel and rely on his technique and get over this mental thing with it (I know he doesn't have the best axel, but it's so annoying that EVERY commentator talks about it all of the time, it's like a self-fulfilling profecty!). I just can't see him stopping now, but who knows what's going through his mind. I'm totally being selfish here and I wouldn't blame him for wanting to stop or at least take a break. Would probably put things into perspective for him too and really show him what he wants to do. Let's be honest here, a lot of world class athletes get sick of what they're doing and long for a different life.

    I know doing shows doesn't give him the technical help that skaters need, but it helps with performance and presentation (just look at Joannie now!!!!) so I hope he continues on with that to help him grow and also have fun.
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  13. girlscouse62

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    Is he going to be doing the show in Russia along with Tessa and Scott?
  14. luckiest1

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    What show in Russia? Also, is there a gala to the Olympics? If so, when is it taking place (and will they televise it)?
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    I believe it's on Saturday. I plan to watch it on nbcsn.
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    yep. that's the reason scott hamilton won in sarajevo over orser.
  19. Emdee

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    Not true at all as he was brought up with figures by Colson. In fact this is where he gets his edge control.
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    I'm certain that manhn was being sarcastic.
  21. Scrufflet

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    Good point. I think you may be right. I only hope I live to see it!
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    One of those being his own team mate Duhamel.... :rolleyes:
  23. MrLucky

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    No, hopefully for Canada, it will be a skater with the poise Sarah showed in 2002. Until then Canadian Men will forever be dreaming of Gold.
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    Poise (dictionary definition) = graceful and elegant bearing . That's not how I remember Sarah Hughes skating from 2002 (and that's not meant as any disrespect to her).
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    I'm sad for Patrick; not angry with him.
    I hope that whatever decision he makes about his future, it will be his own choice,
  26. MrLucky

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    Here is another dictionary definition of poise:

    1. a state of balance or equilibrium, as from equality or equal distribution of weight

    2. a dignified, self-confident manner or bearing; composure ...

    Sorry Patrick did not have a better night but he had a lot of company.

    Wishing him the best of luck in the future whether he continues or chooses to move on.
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  27. Anita18

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    I agree.

    Andre Agassi hated playing tennis until later in his career, when he decided for himself what he wanted out of it. Until his late 20's, he'd been pressured by everyone around him to keep playing and competing because he was so good at it.

    I wonder if Patrick has found himself in the same hole, pressured by everyone to go for that OGM because he was good enough to do it. Now, he has nothing to lose really, so it's best that everyone lays off of him about it for a while.
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    OMG.... I LOVE this pix! Baby is sooo cute and well behaved. Couldn't see Chiddy's face but I thought he didn't look uncomfortable at all. Baby is no more than 2 months old? Chiddy's hands look big compared to this cutie.

    Now this baby is going to the next Patrick/Kurt/Elvis/Brian when he grows up.:)
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    That last gif is so misleading - Scott looks like a giant! :rofl:
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    Maybe just wishful thinking but seeing Patrick really soaking in the Olympics and cheering on athletes in other sports - I hope he feels inspired to keep going - even if he takes some time off after the pressure cooker he has been in.
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    It is wonderful to see Patrick out and about with Tessa and Scott. So glad they seem to be really enjoying themselves. They deserve it!
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    That was my impression too that Scott looked at least a head taller than Patrick.

    They should after the years of hard work. They are unlikely to be in such a situation again so they should savour every moment.

    Patrick and his love of hockey. Playing street hockey with Team USA. Patrick scored a goal!:respec:

    Canada faces off against USA in street hockey game in Sochi: http://globalnews.ca/news/1158925/canada-faces-off-against-usa-in-street-hockey-game-in-sochi/ & http://olympic.ca/2014/02/19/game-on-canada-vs-usa-street-hockey-breaks-out-in-sochi/
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  35. clarie

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    Oh Patrick.......and he scores.............so cute........can't keep a good man down. I also saw him at the curling game yesterday along with V/M. They really looked like they were just soaking it all in. What a terrific opportunity for them to stay on and enjoy. I'm also hoping this competition is not the last we see of Patrick. There's so much more left in him even if he takes some time off.
  36. fscric

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    It's good to know that Patrick does not wallow in the disappointment of not winning the gold, and set out to enjoy the rest of his stay in Sochi.

    Looks like Jason Brown is in Team USA, so he and Patrick are representatives of figure skaters in their respective hockey team.
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    Awwwww, thanks for that. I'm so happy that Patrick is making good on his promise to himself to enjoy the remainder of these Olympics!
  39. algonquin

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    Given all the hoopla that is now going about Adelina Sotnikova's win yesterday, it was probably better that Patrick didn't win the gold with a flawed program. (I know that Sotnikova's wasn't flawed, but you get my point.) I guess in some ways it is better that he got the silver than to have live with petitions and nasty comments about his win. I wonder if he wins had not been controversial if his Olympic long program would have been an easier for him?
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    If the judging doesn't sink figure skating, the fans will.