Outrage over Front-Page Newspaper Photo of Kaetlyn Osmond

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  1. Jozet

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    Paradoxically, I don't approve of visible panty lines much more than I don't approve of crotch shots. Kinda 1/2 Emily Post, 1/2 Lady Gaga.
  2. overedge

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    :confused: I don't think Mondor tights are any more or less see-through than any other brand of tights.
  3. OliviaPug

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    No, it wasn't all that bad ... but why oh why do photographers have such a hard time taking a decent photo of a gorgeous girl performing a beautiful sport? It's not like they have to pay for each photo they take. Why can't they take and use GOOD photos?

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    THANK YOU!
  5. genevieve

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    and the Stranger has picked up on the "crotch shot that rocked Canada". :lol:

    usually they only care about skating when Johnny Weir is involved, so good for Kaetlyn!
  6. grimey

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    The entire photo is not the most flattering(crotch shot or not). Of all the snaps the photographer took, how could that be the best one?
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  7. TheIronLady

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    She looks like she is performing a show for military men. It reminded the photographer of Sonja Henie's morale boosting visits to the boys overseas. :)
  8. Skittl1321

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    The headline made a pun about kicking or legs up or something. So it may have been an editorial decision to support that rather than a photographer saying "this is great". Of course, it turned out to be a poor decision based on the silly uproar.

    Based on all the horrible photos of skaters I don't think photographers get much say or editors have good taste.
  9. TheIronLady

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    Newspaper skating photos have tended toward the sensational or sexualized in my lifetime. Perhaps in past decades they were more respectful and showed ladies' spirals or laybacks. I recall many creepy mid-jump faces, still images of spins that look pornographic, or falls with flailing arms or legs. The falls I can understand from a reporting perspective, but they are still sensational. I know some people find it disrespectful to show images of an athlete falling who does more on that night than the one or two falls pictured, but I think pictures of a fall can tell a story and represent agony...

    ETA: Except photos of Patrick's falls because he gets to celebrate after them ;)

    I don't know what story crotch shots tell...
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  10. Rottie

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    From the description I heard on CBC's As It Happens, I thought the costume had slipped and her, er, flower was on display. But this just shows her strength, flexibility, and balance. It's a good figure skating photo. If one has a fetish for crotches, I suppose one could stare at that strip of fabric there and imagine what lies under it, but most of us have better things to do, like appreciate skating.
  11. TheIronLady

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    This reader's comment killed me. I will attempt to censor it somewhat for I myself clutched my pearls a bit during my reading. You can go to the link to read the full comment if you must.

  12. IceIceBaby

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    They are very "thick" material, at least the ones that I have had to use. Nothing would see thru! There is a big difference in regular tights and skating tights.
  13. Ziggy

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    Again, nothing was on display on that photo. Jesus Christ, can't some people get a life.
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  15. TheIronLady

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    Ziggy, some of it is exaggerated in order to have fun. The reader comment I quoted was someone's satire, and yes a few people do need to get a life.
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    There are two different weights of mondors, but even the thin ones have appropriate coverage. I agree with what you said.
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    So it's not okay to show an action shot of Kaetlyn who is fully covered and wearing tights, but nobody minds when we get action shots of gymnasts, who are often younger and are wearing much higher cuts and no tights? Goodness.
  18. overedge

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    Yes, I know that. But your comment was "I hope she will won't wear such sheer mondors in the future", which I read as saying that Mondor brand tights were the problem in the picture.
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    What I find hilarious is the choice of that particular photo out of the thousands upon thousands of pictures taken of Katelyn during Worlds!!! Surely there must have been at least a few choices better than that one???? :lol: There were cameras EVERYWHERE she went!
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  22. OliviaPug

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    Complainers? I would say commentators or simply individuals with an opinion that happens to include good taste and good judgment.

    I don't find the gymnastic photo in nearly as poor taste as Kaetlyn's photo since the main focal point of the gymnast is the side of her body not a straight-on crotch shot. I don't even find the two photos comparable. I also don't find figure skating comparable to gymnastics.

    But, the same argument applies to either -- many, many photos are taken and, in choosing one photo, that one photo could be tasteful, beautiful, strong and still representative of the athleticism of the sport.

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    Edited to add: Oh, and the so-called "complainers" include the photo editor:

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/commu...rticle9878975/
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    Because it's not the photographer, but their editor who has the final say on what gets published. Typically the editor will demand a wide variety of shots. As we have seen time and time again the editors go for shots that most figure skating fans would consider unflattering, but they want a photo that will have an impact on their general readership.

    And in this case they certainly got the attention and more that they were seeking.
  26. vesperholly

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    :rofl:

    As someone who's shot lots of skating photos, I think it's a great photo. The photographer captured a happy facial expression (not easy!) and dynamic position. I work at a newspaper and it's actually a perfect photo for the front page. Her face and skate are above the fold, so people can quickly ID it as skating.

    People are so prudish ...
  27. OliviaPug

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    Maybe some people ARE prudish. No, in fact you're right -- some people ARE prudish. But that doesn't explain everyone, including myself, who didn't feel it was a bad photo, but certainly felt it shouldn't have been used and that a much better photo could have been used. Generalizing that people are prudish is a copout, IMHO, and doesn't address the issue.

    A better photo could have been used. It wasn't. Some folks took issue with it. Hoping for a journalistic approach that is better than the one chosen has to do with principles. It's a matter of hoping for journalism with better overall judgment.

    I don't expect everyone to agree with me on this, but I won't go around calling people ridiculous or tacky either.

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    One of the blog links someone posted (sorry, opened them all at once, don't know which) pointed out the SOLE convincing arguement I've seen that this was offensive. If a folded newspaper was delivered to your door upside down, you were greeted with a picture of ONLY a crotch.
  31. Jot the Dot Dot

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    And your complaint is...?
  32. professordeb

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    Can I just say I am still LMAO at this whole thing? Blowing things out of proportion. Sheesh! Considering some of the photos I've seen with hardly covering anything bikinis, this seems tame. This is NOT the Victorian ages. However, I can't believe they didn't have another photo they could have used. At the very least, they could have cropped it, if it was that offensive.
  33. leafygreens

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    I don't think the picture is offensive, but definitely not the most flattering angle.
  34. Skittl1321

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    It would have looked way worse cropped. There would be a random leg not attached to a body floating in the shot.
  35. OliviaPug

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    Yep, and a far more flattering shot of the same photo of Kaetlyn would have been one that showed her left leg, i.e., the leg that was actually touching the ice ... this being figure skating and all. It would have shown Kaetlyn's entire form and dance pose, and not focused as much attention on her, well, you know :lol:

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  36. Skittl1321

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    From a front page of the newspaper point of view, I disagree. If you showed the leg touching the ice, the picture would need to be zoomed out such that there is a lot of dark space, and it would overwhelm the subject of the photo, because she is not wide enough to take up much of the frame.
  37. OliviaPug

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    You're probably right, but I think you get my point that a better photo could have been used.

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  38. skatingfan5

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    I don't know that this "modesty crop" looks much worse -- I think that most people's minds would unconsciously "attach" Kaetlyn's leg to her torso. :shuffle: There were a lot of other photos they could have used though.
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    I disagree, it looks disembodied.

    I'm sure there were other photos they could have used, and I think I said that maybe they could have picked a better one in an earlier post on this thread, but this one fit the need of a 'pun' in the headline.