Oscars 2013 Aftermath, including Fashion Hits and Misses

Discussion in 'Off The Beaten Track' started by Sylvia, Feb 25, 2013.

  1. Zemgirl

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    That reminded me of Kate Winslet's "it's not a shampoo bottle now!" line - it seemed so calculated and phony. Winslet was another actress criticized for what some people perceived wanting the recognition she received a bit too much.

    I liked Anne Hathaway in the past, and felt she was underrated at times, but I felt she felt victim to "must have an Oscar" syndrome, which doesn't do anyone any good. Of course actors want recognition, but when they are too obvious about seeking it, it doesn't go over well.

    Valentino did screw up.
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    Glad you brought up Winslet - boy did she change the year she won her Oscar. Suddenly no more irreverent, snarky Kate. She became Princess Kate of Academyland. Strange things can happen to people who want it so. very. badly. and finally they've reached their coronation year. They got carried away. I'm still a fan of Anne (and I liked her dress, too).

    Spontaneity works for Jennifer Lawrence because she's still so new to the scene. She hasn't been waiting a decade-plus for her Oscar.
  3. OliviaPug

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    Oh, to be able to "worry" about such things as whether or not my dress will be too similar to another starlet's! :lol:

    Disliked Hathaway's dress, but she looked happy in it. I guess that's all that matters!

    As for her perceived "fakeness" -- I get it because that's how she comes off to me as well. But, she is likeable in other ways. She seems really sharp and has a good sense of humor. Maybe she's just a bit self-conscious as others have suggested. In any event, I think she's a great actress and very pretty, if not as "attractive" as JLaw.

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  4. my little pony

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    valentino didnt make amanda's dress, it was mcqueen, so i dont see how that is valentino's fault
    and i didnt like anne hathaway due to her personality long before her nipples of doom dress
  5. Jenny

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    When Amanda Seyfried walked the carpet, she made a point of saying that her Alexander McQueen dress had been made especially for her, and that they had worked on it for months. Now we know why she said that - she knew that Anne Hathaway was either wearing a very similar dress, or would change at the last minute and she (Amanda) might get blamed.

    This article has a picture of the Valentino dress Anne was supposed to wear - I can see why she changed it.
  6. snoopy

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    I don’t know. That Valentino dress is much prettier than her pinky dress IMO. I’d rather look stunning and similar to someone else rather than look unique and meh.
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    The Valentino was very pretty, but she made the right choice not to wear it.

    I liked the dress she wore, but how did the designer NOT realize the effect the darts would have?
  8. Jenny

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    I wonder how much of a scramble it was to pull in extra dresses at the last minute and all the adjustments to makeup, nails, shoes, bag and jewelry to go with the dress. A lot of people would have been with Anne on Sunday, and I wonder if they eventually just talked her into the Prada so they could get on with their work and get her out the door on time.
  9. Zemgirl

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    She should have worn the Valentino. Hathaway was the Oscar nominee, and I think she should have been able to wear her first choice rather than to concede to another actress, even if it was someone she's friendly with. Seyfried could have picked something else if she didn't want to be upstaged.

    Not too mention, that dress would have looked better one someone with Hathaway's coloring. Seyfried looked washed out (and her hair was atrocious).
  10. Jenny

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    Disagree completely. As noted before, Amanda's dress was custom made for her over a period of months. Why should she make a last minute change to something off the rack 24 hours before the event? It's Anne that had the problem with it, not Amanda, and Anne's choice to make the change. No one forced her.
  11. orbitz

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    I have to wonder what Ann and her team thought when they look in the mirror once she had on the pink dress. The dress obviously didn't fit Ann correctly and the two pointy nodes on the front were distracting. Did no one saw that during the fitting? She could've have worn the dress she wore during the Les Mis number for the red carpet. That dress wasn't bad, and the darker color looked better on her.
  12. cruisin

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    YOu know, I knew it was a McQueen dress, I forgot :shuffle:. I suppose it was really no one's fault. But, Valentino could have sent her another dress.

    I actually didn't mind the pink dress so much. But the darts were too pointy and the fabric is just to unforgiving and stiff to have eased them in better.

    Actually, it says a lot about Hathaway that she was willing to make the change and did not throw a hissy fit.
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    After reading a few reactions towards Anne "out there" and now "in here" all I have to say is "poor Anne."
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    Given more than 3 hours to make final adjustments, they might have been able to round/taper the darts to better fit Anne.
    I like Anne; and don't blame her for changing what she intended to wear.
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    It may be that Prada wanted the darts like that. The dress had a decidedly origami feel to it. And Prada can be very quirky/eccentric.
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    Wow, the Valentino and the McQueen are almost identical. :eek:
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    Ok, there has been way too big a deal being made about a stupid Oscar dress ... but more gossipy news regarding what went down.
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    To be honest, even if she had worn the Valentino dress, people would've still bitched about how she looked and made fun of her on top of making fun of Seyfried and Hathaway for wearing the same dress. I guess it could've been a cute "mother and daughter" in-character thing, but I doubt Hathaway wanted to be thought up as a mother to Seyfried.
  21. vesperholly

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    I wonder if Rachel Zoe still has a hand in styling Hathaway. If she had worn anyone of the dresses that Zoe picked out for her when she hosted the Oscars, she would've looked stunning.
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    Yes, while I don't love all of them, any of them would have been better than the pink, pointy mess.
  23. my little pony

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    even the tux was cute
  24. Zemgirl

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    It doesn't matter if Amanda Seyfried started working on that gown when she was on Veronica Mars. She wasn't the Oscar nominee, Anne Hathaway was, so Anne shouldn't have felt as though she should give up on her dress of choice. Why she did is indeed a mystery. The Valentino gown was prettier than the McQueen one and as I wrote before, I think it's a better match for Anne's coloring than Amanda. Surely in months of work someone should have noticed that she looks washed out in that color?

    Also, I don't think a designer gown, even if not bespoke, qualifies as off the rack.

    This is cuter than either of the dresses Hathaway wore on Oscar night, though obviously it would not have been appropriate then.
  25. Jenny

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    Interestingly, here's another Prada dress worn by Anne only a few weeks earlier - seems to have gone over well, so maybe maybe no on thought the Oscar dress would be a problem.

    Also Zemgirl sorry I see what you mean now - I thought you were implying that Amanda should have given up her dress for Anne.
  26. Coco

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    It's really indicative of her insecurity that she changed.

    I still like her, though.

    Loved the blue dress Anne had on at after parties. I think there's a pic in the most recent People.
  27. MacMadame

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    Yes!

    It's interesting how different circumstances dictate whether or not it's horrible to have the "same" dress or not. My daughter was in a performance where she was ordered to buy a black dress with white accents. She did and we showed up for the performance and one of her friends had on basically the same dress. They were over-the-top happy about it. "Look at us, we're twins!" they said all night.

    But at some point, it turns into this horrible crime and the women involved are supposed to be oh-so embarrassed even if the dress is just similar and not the same at all.

    And, godforbid, a woman wear the same dress to one of these events more than once! Which means if you find a dress you absolutely love, you can't just wear it everywhere until you are sick of it like the rest of us do. :(
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    Celebrities walking the red carpet do have pressure to not wear the same outfit as each other. Ordinary people showing up at the same event wearing the same outfit aren't going to have their pictures appear in some rags or on the web the next day under the polling "Who wore it better? "
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    I saw two guys who were wearing black tuxes. I was so embarrassed for them.
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    I heard that beforehand they got into a big fight about it and each one tried to get the other to change but neither would back down. Those bitches! ;)

    Also, those "who wore it better" bits usually involve actresses at different events. So just being sure your dress isn't like someone else's at that one event doesn't protect you from that.
  31. VIETgrlTerifa

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    I know it's hard to empathize with actresses who are making millions off of movies and have a level of fame and fortune that most of us can only imagine. However, I think that the level of scrutiny and publicity that comes with all that makes them worry about things that would otherwise seem petty or ridiculous. However, that's the nature of the industry that they are in, and for many of the younger ones, they have to be very careful about how they present themselves and how they look because as stupid as it seems to care about such things, the public's perception and reaction towards such stupid things are even more ridiculous. Let's face it, actresses have a harder time than actors because nobody makes that big of a deal when an actor gets older but actresses have a much harder time getting roles as they age (no matter how talented) due to the misogny of Hollywood and what roles are written for them.

    Not everyone can get away with being a Jennifer Lawrence, who has an easier time because she's still very young and fresh. Let's wait another five or so years and see if people start turning on her the way they have with Hathaway.
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    I'll bet it won't even take that long. There's nothing the media loves more than turning around and tearing down the person they've just worked hard to build up.
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    It's not about not being able to empathize. It's about seeing that they have the power and they are throwing it away. There are certainly actresses out there who just pick out a dress and don't stress about it, who keep their personal life separate from their working life, and manage to avoid buying into the hype and stress.

    I think it would be a hoot if a bunch of these women would all deliberately wear the same dress to some event and laugh about it while everyone else's head exploded.

    In this particular case, the dresses were not even identical. But one of the parties was so hyped up about the issue that she rejected a perfectly nice dress and wore a monstrosity that made it look like we could see her nipples all to avoid looking even the appearance of wearing the same dress. To me, that's crazy!
  34. overedge

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    I thought it looked like a blue satin sack with sequins stuck to the neckline. It was sort of the polar opposite of the ugly pink dress, in that it also didn't fit her, but it didn't fit her in a whole different way.
  35. VIETgrlTerifa

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    Obviously it is a big deal because people are giving her crap for making the "wrong" choice. It's easy to say she made a mistake in hindsight, but I'm sure she felt like she would've looked like a fool had she wore a similar looking dress. You say they have all this power and throwing it away. I don't see her throwing anything away. She just wore a dress that people are giving her crap for because they deemed it ugly compared to what she could have wore. No wonder she worried so much about it. Look at the reactions she's getting.

    I personally don't see what the big deal is. She wanted to wear a special dress at the Oscars because for most actors, it is a huge deal to be nominated and be the favorite to win. Yes, it's pageantry and has nothing to do with the acting craft, but it's difficult not to get swept up in it considering the history of the Academy Awards and what a big deal it becomes (especially in the industry when you have Harvey Weinstein crafting up stories to ensure wins). I don't know where the line is drawn from being a serious actress to being a celebrity. Jessica Chastain is more successful in keeping her personal life separate from her professional life, even though people gave her a lot of flack for her Golden Globes dress. Luckily, she doesn't care. I guess due to her choices (in movies and I guess going out or something, I don't know) or popularity, Anne Hathaway is seen as a celebrity that paps pay attention to and people talk a lot about. Maybe she could do a better job in not caring so much, but hey, maybe she's the type that does. I don't know.
  36. michiruwater

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    I've never understood the Anne hate. She seems like a nice, if slightly awkward, person, and she's hella talented. Plus I feel like I've grown up with her. I was, like 13 or so when The Pricness Diaries came out and I read all the books after I saw it. And then her roles matured as I did :) It was nice seeing the Princess of Genovia win an Oscar ;)

    I was hoping she'd won some grudging respect/street cred after she kicked total ass as Catwoman after all the naysayers bitched for months about her casting. And I think she did, for a bit, but clearly not enough, even after a second good performance in the otherwise-boring Les Miserables.

    And I adored her heartfelt speech and appreciation of Sally Field at the GGs.
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    But if she didn't care, she wouldn't get as much crap. That's the way this stuff work.

    And by not caring, it's not fun to pick on her so, if she makes a "mistake," she gets some flack, she shrugs, and it dies away.

    There are actually plenty of actresses who don't seem to care that much about what gossip mags say about their clothes because they keep showing up in the most bizarre and sometimes even unflattering stuff and when someone interviews them and asks them why they picked it, they say something like "I love how I feel in this" and that's the end of it.

    My advice to Anne is to emulate those actresses and not worry so much. She'll have more fun! :)
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    Can you name a few? The only one I can think of that's relevant is Helena Bonham Carter, but no one would group her in the glamor girl-leading lady category. Plus she's married to Tim Burton, so it's expected that she'll show up at public events dressed like somebody's eccentric cooky Aunt. Actresses like Halle Berry, Reese, Penelope, Nicole, CZJ, Watts, etc. put very careful thought into what they'll wear at events like the Oscar. There's no way either will show up at an award show looking like another actress.
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    I am finding so much of this absolutely hilarious. I read some little things here and there about people hating Hathaway but I figured it was just because of her "aww shucks, you like me!?!?!" attitude. I didn't realize this was all over a dress. :lol:
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    I like Hathaway, and I think she is very talented. But, I fail to see the aw shucks aura about her. She grew up very near here, Millburn, NJ. My son has a friend who went to high school with her (though a few years behind her). He said she was nice enough, but had money and was a bit impressed with herself. Of course, my son's friend is from Short Hills (SH & Millburn share a HS) and is also a bit impressed with himself :lol:.