Oscar Nominations Announced

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  1. RomyNL

    RomyNL Well-Known Member

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    No Fassbender and no Di Caprio in best male?

    Shame

    Also, I was hoping to see Shame (non-PC?), Carnage (because of Polanski?) and We need to talk about Kevin in Best Picture category...

    I don't understand all this love for The Help, boring and full of clichees IMO

    I usually like Woody Allen's movies, but Midnight in Paris was like a travelogue for rich Americans preparing a long-awaited post-retirement trip to Paris
  2. FunnyBut

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    Echoing the cheers for Melissa McCarthy! :cheer: Her turn hosting SNL was a hoot too! She is sooo fabulously talented.
    ...and :cheer2: Kristin Wiig for Original Screenplay! I'm so glad these two and Bridesmaids are getting recognition.
  3. Jenny

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    Another snub - and I understand she campaigned long and hard for it - is Angelina Jolie's In the Land of Blood and Honey. As director/writer/producer she was hoping for a nomination for Best Foreign Language Film.

    Maybe she should have done something in English, because historically, Oscar often awards actors who direct.
  4. caseyedwards

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    The producers of A Better Life obviously had a good performance but that was not enough so they campaigned to the Academy about supporting illegal immigrants as residents of the US - no arizona type immigration laws and all that. It's a liberal group in its politics so it was totally right up their alley and the factor of good peformance and liberal politics - like the movie Milk about gay rights got Bichir the nomination.
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    ^^^^^THIS!!!^^^^^

    And though I'm thrilled for Oldman FINALLY receiving a nomination this---plus Fassbender's lack of nomination---just illustrates the point that they need to open up the categories for more nominations. They did it for Best Picture. Now do it for everyone else. I will bet that Fassbender's nomination numbers were oh so close to the other five; ridiculous to ignore his performance in "Shame."
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  6. Beefcake

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    Ah, I'm torn. I'm :cheer: about comedy getting some Oscar nom love.

    But, c'mon, if you swapped out the genders of all the cast in Bridesmaids, you'd have had :shuffle: the EXACT SAME sophomoric rowdy, bawdy, horny-males-going-wild-but-eventually-learning-lessons movie that we've all seen dozens of times. Hey, it's "The Hangover II" as it should have been done! Melissa would have received the same begrudging kudos (but only a GG nom) as the Vince Vaughns of the world, and the screenplay's nomination would have come in the MTV Movie Awards versus the Academy Awards.
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  7. Beefcake

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    :blah: The excrement that was "Kung Fu Panda II" nominated over anything. Even more reason to wuzrob "... Tin Tin", even though I've not seen the latter yet.



    :confused: So weird, re: just the two original song nominations.
    :watch: Elton's and/or David's impending comments on this situation.


    ETA :p:
    Er, I saw "Shame" (loved it!), but I certainly didn't see a little Fassbender. ;)
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  8. Jenny

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    Didn't even notice that! One wonders if after the Golden Globes, the Academy decided to reduce the nominees to two to avoid Furnish's :drama: or Madonna having another opportunity to give a Best Picture acceptance speech for Best Song.

    Mind you, now we'll likely be subjected to Jason Segal, Jesse Eisenberg, Anne Hathaway and Jamie Foxx singing during the broadcast :scream:
  9. Vash01

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    Bardem also got a nomination in the past for the movie with ocean or sea in its title; he played a quadriplegic in it. It was an awesome performance, but it was in Spanish. No matter how brilliant he is, I think there must have been other performances in other languages that were brilliant but were not nominated. Same about the Brazilian actress that was nominated for a best lead actress (why all this love for Brazil?). The pool becomes too big when they pick someone from a non-English movie. IMO it will be more fair when the boundaries are clearly defined, and not just occasionally broken.
  10. genevieve

    genevieve drinky typo pbp, closet hugger Staff Member

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    wow, that is a refreshing list of nominees!

    I'm sorry for Leonardo DiCaprio, Michael Fassbender and Shailene Woodley (and to a lesser extent Tilda Swinton - but mostly because I want to see her amazing fashion sense on display on Oscars night)...but some very nice surprises! :cheer2:

    Also just a strong year overall. I think George Clooney will win (and he was fantastic in The Descendants...and I love his acceptance speeches), but I would really really love for Jean Dujardin to pull off an upset. I also want The Artist to win Best Picture :inavoid:

    So torn for Best Actress - Viola Davis was amazing, but I would love Glenn Close to get an Oscar. Would be especially nice for her to win for a project that she's carried from stage show to screen over decades. I notice she didn't get a song nom tho ;) (and THANK TPTB that neither Elton John nor Madonna were nominated!)

    the only film I've seen from the Supporting Actor list is Beginners - I think Christopher Plummer has this one in the bag, but I'd like to see some of the other films. I heard that both Nick Nolte and Max von Sydow were great, but their films haven't been on my must-see list :shuffle:

    Is it Oscar night yet?!?! :glamor:
  11. DarrellH

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    Isn't there some sort of restriction on the best song qualification? It can't be added on to the end while the credits role, or something like that? I think that's what hurt Brokeback Mountain. It was winning best song at most of the other award shows, but wasn't even nommed for the Oscar.

    What happened to Madonna's song she won a Globe for this year?
  12. Wyliefan

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    I read that wrong, and thought, "When was there a category for Best Movie with Ocean or Sea in Its Title??"

    :eek:
  13. Jenny

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    Thought I heard something about that too. Another rule is that the song cannot appear on another CD - which is why Springsteen's song for The Wrestler was not nominated. He chose to put it on his own CD rather than go for the nomination (and since he already has an Oscar, why not).

    ETA - here's an extract for the official rules (my bold):

  14. orbitz

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    I don't see it as a snub. Jolie made a small and difficult film that few people in
    America will see. The film also wasn't universally praised, so I don't think there was any big expectation that it would be nominated.

    She did film a version of LOBAH in English.
  15. made_in_canada

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    I'm shocked to see that! Awesome!
  16. caseyedwards

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    He was not nominated for that though it did win foregin film.
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    We've got a sizable group. Let's picket the MPAA ;)
  18. Jenny

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    Except by Angelina :p
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    I'm glad to see A Separation was nominated for foreign film. I'm surprised it's also nominated for best original sceenplay as well. Is that what you were talking about, Vash, about not having foreign films in the other categories? I didn't realize that happened.
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    Because it sucked?
  21. Vash01

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    Yes, that's what I meant.
  22. PeterG

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    :mad:

    NOOOOO!!!! If that happened, these performances would not have received the acclaim they deserved (and this is just the acting categories):

    Marion Cotillard (La Vie en Rose)
    Christoph Waltz (Inglorious Basterds)
    Penélope Cruz (Volver...or Vicky Cristina Barcelona)
    Catalina Sandino Moreno (Maria Full of Grace)
    Fernanda Montenegro (Central Station)
    Roberto Benigni (Life Is Beautiful)
    Catherine Deneuve (Indochine)
    Graham Greene (Dances With Wolves)
    Isabelle Adjani (Camille Claudel...or The Story of Adele H.)
    Sophia Loren (Two Women...or Marriage Italian-Style)

    That's up to the academy voters to be aware of what's released each year and to nominate the best, regardless of language/country of origin. (And it's up to studios to make people aware of their movies.)
  23. danceronice

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    Um...Dances With Wolves was not a foreign-language film. Or even a foreign film. In fact it won the regular old Best Picture Oscar. Just because a few performances were only in Lakota doesn't make the entire movie eligible. That's like saying the fact there's no dialogue for long stretches makes "Jeremiah Johnson" a silent movie.

    I think DiCaprio got passed over because, in general, J. Edgar just wasn't well-recevied. (Now, that doesn't explain how a movie everyone seems to despise, Extremely Loud.... got a best picture nod.)
  24. soxxy

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    What a great list, Peter. I'd also like to add Liv Ullmann's nominations for The Emigrants and Face to Face and Ingrid Bergman for Autumn Sonata. Oh, and Valentina Cortese for Day for Night.
  25. vesperholly

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    I've read that Streep isn't even that good in The Iron Lady. :shuffle:

    Also Janet McTeer!!!!! :cheer2: although Octavia Spencer deservedly has that category tied up in a little bow. I'm just happy McTeer was nominated, her performance was brilliant.

    Echoing the yays for McCarthy, Wiig and Oldman. Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy was nominated for adapted screenplay as well.

    HUGE snub for Madonna. :EVILLE:

    I'm bummed the song from Albert Nobbs wasn't nominated (was it only over the end titles?), but that could mean they didn't feel the need to give Close a conciliatory Oscar 'cause she's gonna win Best Actress :D
  26. VALuvsMKwan

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    Maybe she sent nanoprobes to the eligible Streep-Borg voters and reprogrammed them (like older Janeway infected the Borg queen in the finale of Star Trek: Voyager). ;)

    I would love to see Glenn Close win, and I have a feeling that Ms. Streep might be one of the first to congratulate her. They have acted together before in film in "The House of the Spirits", and their careers are remarkably similar (though GC has done more TV and stage than MS).

    They even seem to me to have a certain down-to-earthness about themselves (could be acting, of course, but I like to think not).
  27. Vash01

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    I don't think you understood my post. I am not against foreign actors; I am referring to movies that are in other languages. All these movies you mentioned, except La Vien Rose and Life is Beautiful are in English (I don't know about Camille Claudel). You even included Dances with wolves which is very much in English. :rolleyes:I am saying that movies that are not in English should be under the foreign language film category, and those should not be included in the best actor/best screenplay, etc. because there is no way to be perfectly fair, as many deserving foreign language performances that are not as well known are most probably denied.

    So I will stick with my opinion that no matter how good these nominated performances in foreign language (not foreign born actors) are, they should not be included in other categories. Yes, it will be disappointing to not see Marion C. or Roberto Benigni or Bardem in the best actor category, unless they are in an English language film, but it will be more fair overall.
  28. Vash01

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    IMO Leo did not get the nomination because J. Edgar really was not a good movie. It should not affect the nom, but when the field is so competitive, it happens.

    I saw Extremely loud and was deeply touched by it, so I don't understand "everyone seems to despise..." statement. I have read some very negative criticisms of it- some don't like it because it relates to 9/11, or because there is a child as the main character, or whatever. Except for the first 20 minutes or so, when I did not figure out where the movie was going, it is a good movie. Still I was pleasantly surprised that it got the BP nomination.
  29. Carmen Ovsiannikov

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    This.

    For years it's been hard (well nearly impossible) for any comedy film or actor to be recognized at the Oscars and I do like Melissa McCarthy in general but I'm not really feeling the love as far as her being nominated for Bridesmaids. :shuffle:

    I feel as if the Academy is trying to bring in younger viewers (the Rooney Mara nomination as well) and some misguided support of "girl power!" Bridesmaids reminds me of the Judd Apatow films and while they may indeed be funny they don't exactly have the makings of a classic film that should be recognized as one of the best.

    I am happy and surprised to see Gary Oldman nominated and surprised that Angelina didn't get a nod for her film.
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    I am thrilled for Gary Oldman. He deserves and Oscar and has deserved one for many years. My friend and I were just talking about how he deserved one, on Saturday. I'm disappointed Melancholia didn't receive a nomination, and also apparently Shame should have been nominated(I haven't seen it yet, but intend to).
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    it'll be interesting the see if the nominated films will change distribution roll-out strategies, as some of the films that ended up being shortlisted were already retracting a large number of screens this past week before the nominations were announced.
  32. peibeck

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    While I thought Fassbender and Mulligan were both good, I really felt that movie was a pretentious piece of crap without one iota of understanding about sexual addiction.

    ITA, this is a much better pick than DiCaprio in "J Edgar," and I think even shakes up the race a bit.

    What is a Streep borg? :confused: Obviously it hasn't been too successful in helping her win in her last 14 attempts. :p I still say the race is between Davis and Streep. The SAGS will be telling.
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    The Warrior is a fantastic film, one of the little gems overlooked by general audience IMO, a much better boxing film than The fighter
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    That didn't stop Meryl Streep from being nominated for a role in a film getting less than average reviews everywhere
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    Not according to the majority of critics. Rotten Tomatoes has it at 76% positive reviews. (ie 140 critics out of 188 liked it) That's pretty good.

    If YOU didn't like it, it doesn't mean it sucked.

    I didn't see it, I have no opinion on its merits.
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  36. Vash01

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    You can't really compare Leo with Meryl Streep. :lol:
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    You are making the same mistake as PeterG. I am not against foreign actors; just foreign language films- and I am not against them; they deserve their own category, but other noms need to be for English language films (or mainly English; occasionally you do hear the actors speaking German/Russian, etc. but only in a few scenes). Actually, in general, the foreign language movies are much better than many Hollywood blockbusters.
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    You keep insisting that the other film noms should be for English language films, but why? What's the rationale? I really don't see one; a good film is a good film and deserving of a nom no matter what language it's in.
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  39. caseyedwards

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    Could a rationale be that the voting body doesn't really know the language so they don't really know the performance? They know the translation of the words but not like they know English straight off?
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    A good actor is a good actor. They (the voting body) should be able to tell the difference, but then I think they vote with their chequebook. Just saying.........;) I on the other hand, perhaps can't tell the difference and it doesn't matter to my chequebook.