Once Upon a Time S2: The Magic Returns

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  1. Artemis@BC

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    I'm assuming it's someone we don't know, and won't ever know. Just like the guy on the dock whom Cora turned into a fish. There will be more casualties too, I'm certain of that -- but very likely not any "known" characters." And hey, I'm just happy Hopper isn't really dead (though I didn't actually think he was).

    Yes, if I needed any reminder of why I love this show so much (which, by the way, I didn't) ...

    I'm so happy it's back! I'm also happy that I managed to not watch "Queen of Hearts" until just before last night's episode, so I had a double dose. Seeing those two episodes back-to-back really intensified the arc.

    I had 2 teeny tiny quibbles, though. In "Queen of Hearts," when Team Princess was approaching Rumple's jail cell, Snow said something to Emma about "here's where your birth was prophesized." [sic] Grr, I know that usage is becoming more accepted, but there's just no need to bastardize the language that way!

    The other was more substantial. In "The Cricket Game," when they used the dreamcatcher thingie on Pongo, it projected what he saw. But it should have projected what he perceived. Dog's don't see things the same way people do, and by his reaction when Cora-disguised-as-Regina arrived at Hopper's office, he knew something was wrong. So for his "memory" to be only as what a human would have seen ... that didn't ring true for me. In another context I might have suspected Gold of manipulating things, but I don't think that's the case here.

    But I'm not going to let that spoil things for me in the slightest. Bring on next Sunday!
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    Do you think so? I kind of thought they might be setting us up for an unpleasant surprise. But time will tell, I guess!
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    That was a great episode- my favourite of the season. Rumple and Belle have such great chemistry.
    I did not see that ending coming, and I can't wait to see who is in the car. I want to be able to dress like Belle and Mulan.
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    Great episode tonight even though there wasn't as much Emma in it (she's my fave and I don't always enjoy the episodes she doesn't appear much in). I loved seeing her trying so hard to help Henry and I LOVED that she thought about bringing Pongo to him to help out. That was fantastic! I also really enjoyed seeing more back story for Belle and love that she's no pushover. She's very smart and I loved seeing her compassionate side too. I also felt like tonight's story told us quite a bit of new information (how Phillip met Mulan which was SO clever and I did not see that coming, how Rumple plans to leave Storybrooke) and yet also pushed the main story forward (Archie being alive wasn't dragged out at all, Emma now knows that Cora is in Storybrooke). I like episodes that tell me past information but also push the main story forward a few notches. Hook and Rumple's fighting wasn't unexpected since they hate each other so much but I did NOT see that ending coming at all. Poor Belle! That was very sad. :(

    I cannot wait for next week! This show just gets better and better and I like seeing the cast pretty much all together again. The show is SO much better when everyone gets a chance to be in the episode. I LOVE THIS SHOW. :cheer: :biggrinbo
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    Last night's episode was another one where I thought to myself "Hey, there really needs to be some kind of chronology database of characters & events in Fairytaleland." Well, I should have known ... there is. Or rather, there are. Many. (Here's just one.) This episode was easier to nail down chronologically right from the start because of Dreamy -- but of course it does require one to remember details from past episodes!

    I am looking forward to seeing more of the Mulan-Philip story and how it intersects with Auora. Is Aurora already asleep at this point? Probably not, if Maleficent had used the yaoguai curse to keep them apart.

    Meanwhile back in Storybrook, I'm glad they didn't drag out Hopper's mistaken deadness too long -- for his sake as well as for Henry's. (And Pongo!) But I'm left to wonder ... where the heck was Cora during the goings on? I guess she didn't need to hang out with Hook any more once she got a lift into this realm, but I was still expecting her to pop out at any moment. But I guess she's got her hands full with feeding evil thoughts into Regina's crushed psyche, no doubt we'll see more of that very soon.

    The car crash: could it be Neal and/or Baelfire? The camera seemed to linger on the licence plate, but I couldn't see anything significant there.
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    The license plate said Pennsylvania. Is that where he was? I couldn't remember.
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    BTW I was amused to see the Orca mural in the background during one of the Storybrook scenes. Most of the time you don't see things that make you say "hey, that couldn't be Maine," and it's only if you're as familiar with the film locations (mainly Steveston and Fort Langley) as I am that you'd actually recognize them. But the mural was a bit of a give-way -- Orcas are extremely rare off the coast of Maine, it's highly unlikely they'd highlight that particular whale species in a mural!

    But then again ... maybe they're enchanted whales that got brought through on the curse. :D
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    Bael was in NYC I believe. They showed the guy in the car on next week's preview and it's a new character.
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    I don't think this counts as a spoiler: Yesterday on a local CBC radio program Lesley Nichol, aka "Mrs Patmore" from Downton Abbey, was on the show. She's in town because she was filming for a spot in OuaT, an episode to air in March! Very cool crossover between two of my favourite shows. :cheer:

    She wouldn't say much about the role or the plot, other than to say it's "a character who has a connection to Snow White."

    The full interview is online here -- I know CBC TV is geoblocked but I'm not sure about their radio streaming. The interview is more about Downton and the effect it's had on her than about OuaT.
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    I found tonight's episode the weakest of the season (which has been consistently strong). The flashback was pretty weak and not at all gripping (the performance by David Anders was wooden). I hate it when the writers use Emma's supposed superhero ability to detect when people are lying/telling the truth only when it suits their needs. And I hate how easily Regina succumbed to her mother's

    But I am a big fan of Ethan Embry. Can't Hardly Wait! Whatever happened to David's wife, Kathryn? Did she go to law school? If she crossed the line, then she forgot everything, right? Maybe that's who was calling the guy from Can't Hardly Wait.
  11. HeatherC

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    Actually, the new guy didn't really fool Emma's lie detector device. He just answered her questions in a certain way as to not tip her off that he saw anything special before he crashed his car. I think if Emma had asked him something specific (i.e. "Did you see the random guy holding a fireball in the street?!" :p), he may not have been able to fool her because he would have had to lie to her and say he saw nothing. Just my opinion though. :)

    Tonight wasn't the strongest episode but it did put certain things in place for the next few episodes. I love that Emma will be helping Rumple find his son because their banter is usually pretty entertaining and seeing Rumple go through airport security should be freaking hilarious. :lol: OY VEY to Regina believing Cora who I will always think is up to no good. Loved the banter between the Charmings, Emma, Whale, Ruby, and LeRoy at the beginning in the hospital (Snow: "What all happened here while we were gone?!" :rofl: ) because we finally got some concrete evidence that they really haven't had much time to talk about what all went on while Emma & Snow were MIA in Ogre infested Fairytale Land. I did like seeing Ruby and Whale have their little talk on the dock. I liked their comments about this opportunity to start over in this new world and that has to be something other characters are thinking about too. The back story didn't interest me too much tonight but it was interesting to see what happened when Dr. F brought his brother back to life and how that story came about and affected his own life. I'm intrigued about Henry's comments regarding Dr. F and how there could be other characters in town who aren't in the book (and Emma's exasperated head on the table moment was hilarious to me...this mom thing is totally wearing her out, LOL :lol: ). Again, not the strongest episode but it did have some good moments and it's still better than most other crap on TV these days. ;)

    I HATE waiting for new episodes but with that random movie that ABC is airing next Sunday and the Superbowl coming up on Feb. 3rd, it makes sense to avoid these two weeks and save their upcoming new episodes for February sweeps. I know one thing about the episode airing on February 17th that I cannot WAIT to see and I'll spoiler tag it for anyone who doesn't want to know....
    Neal comes back in that episode, which is entitled Manhattan, and where there should be an awesome reunion between him and Emma! I CANNOT WAIT to see them together again and to see how he explains why he left her alone all those years ago. DRAMA! WOOT! :biggrinbo:
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    (I am NOT looking at the spoiler!)

    A few thoughts about last night:

    I agree the Frankenstein flashback wasn't the strongest writing or acting ... but visually it was superb. Brilliant choice to make it all black and white, with Rumple being the only splash of colour in his OTT cloak.

    (BTW, can someone remind me: whose heart did Viktor take when he crossed over into Fairytaleland?)

    Have I said recently how much I love the development of Ruby's character? I think they're really making good use Meghan Ory's talents.

    Favourite line: Leroy "You do understand that computer hacking and pick ax hacking are different?" :lol:

    And I loved the whole scene between Emma & Hook in the hospital. Their charisma is pretty electric.

    Why was Henry so excited about discovering that Whale/Frankenstein was not a fairy tale? We've seen additions from other, non-fairytale stories before: notably Hook and The Mad Hatter. Mind you ... The Mad Hatter was in Henry's book, so they're already mucking with the definition of "fairy tale" there. Not that I mind that, I have a huge amount of faith in the writers to make sense of all of this.

    I too am looking forward to the Rumple-Emma road trip. (Hmm, what kind of playlist would you come up with for them?) I'm also predicting/hoping that Bael will turn out to be Neil. If for no other reason that I think having Rumple as Henry's grandfather would be extremely cool and potential for all kinds of great storylines. After all, Rumple needs a reason to go against Cora & Regina, and what bettter reason than blood?
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    I didn't mind the episode. It was mostly a stand-alone story, which these shows need to have once in a while, and I agree it was visually stunning. I'm sad for Regina, and gutted for Rumple. Belle sees the beast again.

    I'm very intrigued by Henry's observation that other books can intersect with his- it opens up vast potential for a very long series, if the major current plotlines get resolved.
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    My observation is that what possibly separates Hook and Jefferson from Viktor is travel and origins. Jefferson had his hat that could take him anywhere and both he and Hook have their roots in the Storybook universe, even if their defining "worlds" are different and not strictly fairy tale.

    Viktor is different because he doesn't have his roots in the main "universe", traveled there only once and was safely ensconced at home before the curse, yet ended up in Storybrook anyway. I'm sure there's more to the story and its possible that Regina maybe "wrote" him into the curse due to his connection with Daniel but who knows. If not, and the curse was far-reaching enough to snatch people out of totally unrelated worlds, could be interesting.

    Anyway, I doubt OUaT will keep strictly to the fairy tale aspect and will bring in as many literary or fantastical characters as Disney has the rights too, lol.

    As I see it, in OUaT, ALL books have their own worlds or plac, sorta like Inkheart. So Narnia, Middle-Earth, Oz, Hogwarts, etc, all exist in some form or another. Cool, because I love that concept.
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    Speaking of Disney rights, I loved the not so subtle nod that Disney owns Star Wars now :lol:
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    Really good episode tonight (I still have to watch the first 25 or so minutes but for the most part, I really enjoyed tonight's show) but I am MAD STOKED for the episode coming up next week! Seriously, I've been waiting for that episode to air since before Emma & Snow got home and yes, I am well aware of that being extremely pathetic, LOL :rofl: :lol: :biggrinbo

    Hehe, I was right on Charming's real name (DAVID!!! :D) but the way it all came out was flipping hysterical. Why not have that conversation while running from an angry giant??! :lol:
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    LOL No worries, it's not just you, I can't wait for next week either!! Very interested to see what does end up happening!

    Agreed I really liked tonight's episode... The magic bean definitely has me intrigued, leads to lots of possibilities!
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    That's just the Once Upon a Time way. :D And it was very meta, wasn't it? Sounded like the conversations the fans are always having!
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    That was a lovely episode. Loved the Giant working with the Dwarfs--made me even a little misty. And I liked how David has to deal with the mistakes of his alter egos in both universes.

    Jack looks damn familiar. Anyone know who she is?

    And Jerry from ER!
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    I get great comfort tonight knowing that I'm not the only crazy one who's been counting down to the next episode! Seriously, I think that episode has potential to be totally epic and I am SOOO excited for all the drama! :cheer:

    I loved Anton with the dwarves too. David was funny wanting his own ax and getting rebuffed by LeRoy, LOL :lol:

    Jack was played by Cassidy Freeman but I have no idea what else she's been in. Other OUAT fans knew her name though so it must be a popular show or movie. *shrugs*

    JERRY!! That was a fun casting surprise! I'm bummed he's gone now because I enjoyed his character. :(

    BTW-Did anyone else catch the Lost shoutouts tonight??! I love that Emma, Gold, and Henry are flying on Ajira Airlines! That was a riot and I cannot remember the second one for the life of me, but I know there was another one somewhere that also made me chuckle. I wish I could remember that second one! It was a little more obscure. I always get a kick out of the random Lost shoutouts when they show up on OUAT! :biggrinbo
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    I didn't catch it myself at the time, but someone else suggested that the book The Mysterious Island was another Lost shoutout.
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    Oh, Ajira! I was waiting for "Oceanic", I totally forgot that Ajira ever existed!

    And now I remember her. She played "Sage" (or is Saje?) on The Vampire Diaries. She has a very distinctive chin.

    And while I reading IMDB, I read the second Lost reference. OMG, Belle was watching an episode of "Expose"! LOL!
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    That could have been one but that wasn't the one I was thinking about and it is driving me NUTS that I can't remember now! I just rewatched the show and it was definitely in the first twenty minutes because it was in the part I didn't watch live. UGH!!!! :(

    Funny Line: "I was tied up in bed...and not in a good way" -Hook :rofl: :lol:
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    THAT'S IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I about peed my pants laughing over her choice of TV viewing in the hospital lounge!! Those writers are flipping sneaky with getting stuff like that into OUAT! SO funny! :rofl: :lol:
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    So Mr. Gold remembers he is Rumple out in the real world, but he has no magic. Without magic, is he reverting to a "coward?"

    Hook is quite the alley cat, isn't he?
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    I don't know if it's that he's reverting to his cowardly state but he's definitely not on his game knowing for sure now that his magic doesn't work outside of Storybrooke. Part of it is probably nerves for finding his son but for a man who has always been in control, this out of control feeling is probably very overwhelming for him. It will be fascinating to see him deal with that along with everything else in the next episode! :biggrinbo

    BTW-There are some Evil Regal people out there who are really scaring me right now. The stuff they're saying about everyone else in town and going off on how badly they're treating Regina is getting on my last nerve. They are so desperately into their fandom that I sometimes feel like we aren't watching the same show. Why are they out to make the Charming family the enemy??! They haven't done anything to her (and they've been more than patient with her IMO). Regina was on her way to redemption but now she's been all corrupted by Cora and is making very poor choices that are definitely more like the Evil Queen. Why aren't they mad at CORA???! Oy vey. /end rant :yikes: :wall:
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    Bumping this up for tonight's epic episode and I hope to see a lot of you around this evening for some fun discussion!!! :cheer: :biggrinbo :rollin:
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    There's always a group that tries to make the heroes out to be the villains. Makes 'em feel all subversive and smart. (Because they forget it's already been done about forty-seven thousand times.)
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    That ending was fantastic. So, how much of the future does Rumple actually know? Did he know that Belle would be shot? Did he know that he would someday be reunited with her? Did he know that he would even fall in love with her (i.e. let me kidnap her, put on my charm, and she'll fall for me!). Did he know that he had a grandson?

    "You can have more than one." LOL!

    ETA: OMG, where they shot the chase scene, I had a cup of coffee there last week!
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  30. Wyliefan

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    There was an awful lot that was predictable about that episode . . . but the ending was nicely ambiguous.
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    Yeah, I knew some of the things that were coming but tonight's episode was still SOOOOOO satisfying for me. I was going to go to bed but I need to type up some thoughts so I can get them out of my poor over fried head tonight (Revenge killed me too, LOL). :biggrinbo

    Emma & Neal are pure gold in so many ways (pun not intended but it does work, LOL). I love their chemistry and I REALLY love that Emma laid into Neal for what he did to her. That meeting on the street was insanely awesome/heartbreaking and I loved the little stomp/pouty thing that she did when he wanted to go to the bar (hello there 17 year old Emma, LOL :lol: ). Their whole interaction in the bar was amazing too (loved her yanking the swan necklace off when he asked her about it even though that was sad :() and I don't think Neal totally understands how devastated she was over him and how much what he did completely broke her and killed that last little bit of hope she had left. Neal doesn't know that August didn't watch over Emma yet either so I think that will make things a bit different for Neal once he realizes how Emma's life went after she got out of prison. I also loved that he came back to his apartment to protect her from his father. :swoon: It's so obvious to me that they still care about each other (Emma's reaction to the dreamcatcher in Neal's apartment, his reaction to her swan necklace, him coming back to protect her from his father, them agreeing even through their pain that they don't want to hurt Henry, etc.) but I think it's going to be a long road for them to figure that out again. There's just too many emotions going on right now on both sides for things to work out, but in the end, I really believe that these two will be each other's happy ending. Michael Raymond James and Jennifer Morrison are just awesome together. I LOVE THEM. :swoon:

    Speaking of Jennifer's awesomeness, her scenes with Henry tonight broke my heart (well, that whole sequence in Neal's apartment broke my heart in general) and you can tell Emma's head is just too overwhelmed to comprehend everything right now. Her phone call to Snow to ask for advice was priceless but her realization that she lied to Henry to protect herself instead of protecting him was really sad. :( We know she never wanted to hurt Henry over the dad information and I think Henry will forgive Emma once the dust settles, but seeing their relationship broken was the thing that really mad me sad tonight. You could tell how much it hurt Emma to hear Henry say she was just like Regina (OY VEY, that did me in....we know she's about as different from Regina as you can get but in his anger, all he sees is that she lied to him too and that broke me down hard. :fragile: ) and after the whole Neal thing, I think Emma's wall won't be coming down again for a good while. My heart broke so many times for her tonight and I honestly have no idea where she's going to go emotionally from here. (((((Emma))))) :(

    Rumple's back story with the seer was pretty fascinating and I was surprised that he injured himself to get out of the war due to that seer's prediction (which obviously wasn't about the war but about him losing Bae the way it actually happened at that portal). His whole life is kind of out of whack due to the misinterpretations of that seer and I find myself wondering now what he's going to do with that last piece of information about the 'child being his undoing". :eek: That can be interpreted SO many ways and now that he knows Henry is his grandson, he's got some big decisions to make regarding that prophecy and it will be interesting to see what he does next. Interesting to learn how he got the power to see the future too (relating back to the early episodes of season one where we learned that fact from Snow & Charming's conversations). Robert C. was also amazing tonight and actually, I thought everyone was really great tonight. This was seriously one of the best episodes of the whole series and kudos to Jen, Robert, MRJ, Jared Gilmore, and everyone else for totally bringing it. :respec:

    I LOVED Snow and Charming talking about their family tree! Nice diversion from the other drama going on and hehe, classic line alert: "Good thing we don't have Thanksgiving in our land, because that dinner would suck." -Charming :rofl:

    I hated the part with Greg spying on everyone. It didn't seem to fit into this episode and I just don't care enough about him right now to tolerate his presence in this otherwise fantastic episode. Where are they going with that story?! :eek:

    I really hope Regina is playing her mother like a string instrument because Cora is just downright evil and I really don't want her to succeed in finding that dagger. I think that last part where Cora threw Hook across the room will be what drives Hook to the Charming side of the battle lines. Ugh, Cora is just awful. Regina...you were doing so well with the whole being good thing! STOP TRUSTING YOUR MOTHER!!!! :mad:

    Michael Raymond James needs to be a full time cast member next season. :swoon: He was great in the scenes with Jen, I loved his scenes with Henry (although I fear Henry will find out the hard way that his dad isn't really any better than Emma when he looks at the big picture and really understands what his dad did to her), and he easily went toe to toe with Robert C. in their scenes too. I haven't really seen MRJ in anything else prior to this show but I am fast becoming a very big fan of his and I can't wait to see more of him in this second part of the season. Good casting OUAT!!! :cheer:

    OK, I feel a little better and now I need to go to bed. Emotional overload...AUGH!!! LOL :lol:
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    I wonder if Henry being Rumble's undoing is meant in the same way that Belle was the Dark One's undoing...i.e. her loving him was defeating the Dark One and putting an end to his existence, allowing Rumple to come back. I've ALWAYS said that Henry is more than just an antidote to the whole fairytale. I always thought that he was a wildcard; something Regina and Rumple never planned into the whole curse, but now that I know he was foretold by the seer, it's clear he has his own part to play in the story .Who knows, he may end up being a fairytale character himself. :p

    And goodness, aren't motivations going to be beyond twisted? Regina wants Henry, so she's against Rumple, Emma and Snow. Previously Rumple was ambiguous to Henry, but now Henry is his grandson and while I believe he may be entertaining thoughts of offing the poor child, I think he will eventually view this as his way to get a do-over with Bae...do right by Henry, and he's atoning just a small bit for what he didn't do for his son. And Emma wants Henry, so she's against Regina, but now if Rumple has got his finger in the pie, she'll be against him too. And Cora wants Henry because she wants Regina. And Snow and Charming just want their family, dang it!

    Considering that a great deal of their dispute revolves around Henry, I wonder if Emma will end up going back to Storybrook but leaving Henry with Bae. It's a loooooooong shot; she has serious issues with the guy and may not realize exactly how much danger Henry is in, but it's the smartest thing to do. If she and Rumple go back home without Henry there will be big trouble, but at least the greatest danger will be averted, in that Henry can't be used as a bargaining chip by anyone. Which is what I'm really afraid will happen if he goes back. The only person who DOESN'T have a stake in Henry is Hook, but he's really got nothing going for him except a death wish to kill Rumple. He may be the only non-Charming family member to stand by Emma if worst comes to worst, because basically everyone has screwed him over and I don't think he likes being bossed around by Regina and Cora.

    OuaT has alllllllllways been about family. Snow and Charming. Emma and her parents. Rumple and his son. Regina and Cora. Not to mention pretty much every other single character has got family issues. But now our main characters...they're all mashed together and they ALL are family to each other. I'm not saying the series is going to end with them all having Thanksgiving together (snort), but if he show has tried to tell us anything, it's that family is a strong bond. They might have some SERIOUS issues to work but, but still...there's more to this then meets the eye.

    Oh, and since Henry has two magical parents? Kid totally has magic too. He just may not know it yet, just like it took Emma years to discover she had it. :p :D

    P.S. I think the whole tourist with the camera is going to be our ticket back to Storybook. If he brings the media to Storybrook, the townsfolk are going to have no choice but to go back home. Hence the long foreshadowing talks between Snow and Charming and Jack and his beans, and stuff. That's how we're going back.
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    Henry talling Emma that she was no different than Regina kind of broke my heart.

    I'm not sure how I feel about Bae/Neal right now. I think a lot is going to depend on how he and Henry get along, or don't.
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    I must be the only one in the universe who does NOT want Emma to end up with Neal. He came off as extremely selfish to me in the episode and had a LOT of nerve yelling at her about not telling him she had a kid (uhm hello? left her to rot in jail? and didn't even attempt to make contact once she got out? she SO doesn't owe you anything!!). He is a coward just like his father. Emma needs a love interest who will fight for her, and Neal/Bae has proven time and time again he is NOT that person. If they end up together I will be extremely disappointed.

    Now Hook on the other hand....:)
  35. professordeb

    professordeb Well-Known Member

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    Ohhhhh, I like where your thinking is going. Yum yum.
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  36. Jimena

    Jimena Well-Known Member

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    I stopped watching this show a while back because I couldn't deal with Regina's overacting and Henry annoyed me to no end. But I watched last night's episode because of Michael Raymond James. I loved him in True Blood and I loved him in Terriers. He was great last night. And he was great with Emma.
  37. HeatherC

    HeatherC Go Team SW Florida! =)

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    Neal's only been in two episodes so far and you're all ready at that point with him? I'm not trying to change your mind or anything but that's an awfully quick rush to judgment since we don't even know what all has happened to him yet. In his defense, he thought he was doing the right thing for her especially since it was his father's curse that caused her to not have her family. His intentions were not bad even though what he did was awful to Emma. Also, I don't think he knows that August didn't fulfill his end of the bargain in watching out for Emma after Neal left (it was the promise he asked of August when they met up in Canada and the only reason Neal would stay away from her). I don't think he knows that Emma gave Henry up for adoption while she was in prison either (that hasn't come up yet and for sure will make a difference). I think he took care of her the best way he could when they were younger and he only left when August butted his annoying wooden nose into everything (not an August fan here if you couldn't tell, LOL). I think once they talk more, Neal's going to understand more about Emma's side of things and she's going to understand what all happened to him after Rumple let go of his hand and he fell into the portal. I give Neal a lot of credit for not lingering on the whole "you kept me from my son" thing (they both seemed adamant about putting Henry first in that last scene together) and he also came back to protect her from Rumple even though he didn't want to see his father so I give him credit for that too. I think these next few weeks will have a lot of revelations for Neal, Emma, Henry, Rumple, and the rest of the cast so it should be pretty intense and fascinating to watch. Sorry for the rant but I feel so protective of Neal that I don't think it's healthy, LOL :lol: :swoon:

    I can see the chemistry between Hook and Emma (honestly, Jennifer Morrison has chemistry with everyone....no wonder Emma has been shipped with almost every character on the show, LOL :lol: ) but in the long run, getting involved with a pirate doesn't always end well. Hook doesn't seem to have a high regard for children so he probably won't be too interested in Henry which will be a big deal for Emma because she's not going to leave her kid. He also doesn't stay in one spot too much so that could be a problem. He's pretty vengeful right now too which doesn't sound like prime boyfriend material....at least in my world, LOL :lol: Don't get me wrong, I do like the character a lot (and Colin seems like a really sweet guy) but I don't want Emma to end up with Hook long term. :yikes:

    To each his own ship though! ;)
  38. Spareoom

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    I think Hook is gonna die at some point, probably protecting Emma or something. I mean, all he's here for is to kill Rumple, which ain't gonna happen, so...either he keeps on trying to kill him, or he dies. No hanging it up and going back to pirating for him. Can you imagine it, though? Oh the angst. He really is too hot for words but he does have this awful fixation on vengeance that is kind of a deal breaker, lol.
  39. TanithandBenFan

    TanithandBenFan U.S. Ice Dance Junkie

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    Did I see that Hook had a fake hand in this episode?
  40. HeatherC

    HeatherC Go Team SW Florida! =)

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    Yeah, I think he got it at the hospital because he hasn't been able to find his hook. I assume they took it away from him upon Emma's request when he was taken there after the car accident but I have no idea where it actually is right now.

    I just rewatched Manhattan earlier tonight and holy crap, it actually got better with a second viewing! :D Rumple and Bae's scene in the apartment is SO powerful and my heart broke for Emma all over again. I have a feeling this episode will get a lot of rewatches from me for the next two weeks, LOL :lol: