Once Upon a Time S2: The Magic Returns

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  1. manhn

    manhn Well-Known Member

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    Wow, Mulan and Sleeping Beauty have so much chemistry! Although I do love the actor who played Phillip. He has been in so many tv shows. I love his eyes.

    Great premier. Really sets up the season for everyone.
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  2. ChelleC

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    You know a lot of trouble would have been avoided if Belle would have just let Rumple kill Regina.
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    ^This!

    It's sweet that the family all got back together . . . and then the next thing you know, ripped apart again. Honestly, can't any of them just stay put for five freakin' minutes??
  4. TanithandBenFan

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    I know! :wall: But I love seeing David being all grandfatherly with Henry, and I think it will be fun watching them have some quality time together!
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    Loved it, whew!!!!!
  6. BelleBway

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    :cheer: It's back! I wasn't quite sure if I liked where it was going at first, but now I can't wait for the next episode.
  7. Wyliefan

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    Yeah, this grandpa-grandson bonding thing is going to be cute. :)
  8. CDANN1013

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    Loved it. I hate to admit it but I feel sorry for Regina. She has lost everything with her one track mind.

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  9. TanithandBenFan

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    So I guess Regina got her magic back when Emma touched her arm?
  10. Norlite

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    That was my thought.


    And who was the guy at the beginning? Baelfire?
  11. CDANN1013

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    Probably and I have a feeling
    Henry's father
    .

    Carol
  12. Wyliefan

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    I thought the same! There was something about the way they introduced him that seemed
    a parallel to the way they introduced Emma in s. 1.
  13. HeatherC

    HeatherC Go Team SW Florida! =)

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    Waiting until 11 PM tonight to watch my recording of this show and then come here to gush was an inhumane torture that I don't wish on anyone, LOL :lol:

    I LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE this show!! Wow, the reviewers were right that the premiere was amazing! I wasn't sure where the whole Aurora, Mulan, Phillip thing was going but it all made sense in the end. Rumple and Belle had a very realistic reunion and the Chip part was pretty cute. I loved the Charming Family Reunion and go Emma for being happy but a little out of sorts with the whole thing because that makes PERFECT sense after being alone for her whole life. And OMG the dwarves bowing to Snow was so sweet! Emma is apparently the only one in Storybrooke who can use magic pretty consistently which is ironic since she's the one least likely to even understand how to to do that! Dang, I could gush even more because the whole show was so awesome but I really need to go get some sleep after having one of the longest days EVER today.

    I LOVE THIS SHOW. :cheer: :swoon:
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    Best line of the night was when Charming found out about Snow's one night stand with Dr. Whale.

    "Whale?!"

    "We were CURSED!" :rofl:

    Or, as I heard it referred to on Twitter, this is OUAT's version of "We were on a break!"

    I can't blame Emma for being somewhat stand-offish towards Snow and Charming but I must admit, the room got very dusty during the reunion scene. *sniff*
  15. kwanatic

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    I was worried about the direction they were going to take the show after breaking the curse. Part of the allure of the whole thing was the flashbacks to fairy tale world so I was wondering how they would keep up that part and where the story would go from there...

    I needn't have worried! That premiere was EXCELLENT!! I absolutely love the whole Sleeping Beauty (Aurora)/Mulan thing! I was like, "YES! Where's Mushu?" :lol: And I loved the whole dementor/wraith thing too! Sad for losing Philip *tear*. When he turned around and said "I love you", to whom was he speaking? IIRC, he didn't look at either of them...he was kinda looking down and then the camera goes both to Aurora and Mulan's face. That was interesting. I wonder if that will come up later in the season?

    I did feel sorry for Regina...until she got her magic back and went right back to being an evil btich. The reunion b/w Emma, Snow and Charming made me a little teary (the actress who plays Snow is so good!), but I get why Emma's a bit weirded out by the whole thing. So cute when Henry said, "Grandpa!" :)

    So the magic is back, but it seems to stem from Emma? Regina didn't get her magic back until Emma touched her...so does Emma have magic she can use? Maybe we'll find out in fairy tale land. I love that they are back there, even though it's been in ruins for 28 years. Now they know they can return but obviously they've got some cleaning up to do. Also Charming has to find a way to get there. I think Snow and Emma being stranded in fairy tale world will help to bridge that gap Emma is feeling and I love that Mulan and Aurora will be regular characters (at least I'm assuming they will be if they're working with Snow and Emma).

    I like that Belle is back but Rumple hasn't changed much. I wonder if she's going to be the one to do it or if somewhere down the line she'll realize he's a hopeless evil cause...


    SO pleased with premiere and giddy with excitement over the new season! I really love the concept of this show and all of the layers of story telling. It's a lot to keep up with but the writers do a great job. WHOOO! I LOVE TV!! :lol:
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    I'm assuming. Tho I they threw a loop in there because there was an old sign on the wall of his apartment that said "something Hatters." Blink and you'd miss it.

    And I too am wondering if he'll turn out to be Henry's father. I can't remember now -- I remember the fake story Emma told Henry, but did she ever recount the real story?

    And ... any guesses who the Doctor will turn out to be?

    I loved pretty much everything about this episode. (Am already planning on buying S2 on DVD. :D) The way they set everything up, the way the connection with fairytale land continues, new characters ... all of it. Probably the smartest line they wrote was "Magic is different here" -- so much story potential there. I hope Emma & Snow aren't trapped in fairytaleland for the whole season (just because it might get increasingly hopeless for the folks on the other side), but I'm looking forward to several episodes of adventure with them there. No doubt their being trapped together will result in some very interesting and real-world mother-daughter talks mixed in with the more fantastical stuff!

    I am now officially striking off any other plans for Sunday nights for the entire season.
  17. Nan

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    I was a little concerned about where the story was going to go with the curse broken. I shouldn't have worried. :)

    I think he may have been Baelfire (and possibly Henry's father), and the note sent by pigeon express came from August. The two boys were fairly close in age and both came to the "real world" without the curse. August made a couple of calls to someone from Storybrook about helping Emma believe and breaking the curse, and I think this may have been who he called.

    I saw the sign. I thought it said "Hats Cleaned and Blocked" but I might be wrong. Made me go :confused: .

    * Just watched online, the sign says "Cleaners and Hatters."
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  18. peibeck

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    I hope they flesh out the Sleeping Beauty/Phillip/Mulan storyline. I just find it kind of disconcerting to see Mulan in Sleeping Beauty land. :lol:

    Custom made hats (and wigs) are made on head forms called "blocks."
  19. Nan

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    I knew what blocking a hat is, I just couldn't figure out why the sign would be there. It makes me think there might be a connection between this man and The Mad Hatter, but it might also be a misleading clue.

    It turns out I remembered the sign wrong, but it still makes me go :confused: .
  20. Artemis@BC

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    Yeah, that was a bit odd -- they've stayed pretty much exclusively in Central-Western European folklore & fairy tales so far. Really opens things up though! Not only for non-European stories, but Greek & Roman mythology, Norse, Indian, ... hey, since they're in North American on this side, how about some Raven and Coyote?

    Things could get messy! But I have a lot of faith in these writers. They haven't let me down so far.
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    I might have to start watching. Loved Sarah Bolger in the Tudors, and Jorge is just all kinds of awesome. Now, I need to figure out where to get the dvds rented from... :lol:
  22. kwanatic

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    I kinda wondered if they were just going through their Disney list? "Which Disney princess could we add this time?" We've seen Snow White, Cinderella, Belle, and now Sleeping Beauty and Mulan. Only ones left are Ariel, Pocahontas, Tiana and Jasmine...maybe Rapunzel and Merida too. That is if they're following the Disney format of princesses and given that the show is on ABC which is owned by Disney, I wouldn't be surprised...
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  23. Norlite

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    Speaking of Cinderella, we saw her in the first episode in fairytale land. Did we ever see here in Storybrooke?
  24. TanithandBenFan

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    Do you mean this season? Last season, she was in a couple of episodes in Storybrooke. She was pregnant, and she and her estranged boyfriend reunited after the baby was born. He proposed on Valentine's Day.
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  25. Norlite

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    Oh yeah. I forgot. :shuffle:
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    It wasn't a huge storyline. :)
  27. Artemis@BC

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    There was something in one of the commentaries about that. Probably the season ender one with Adam Horowitz & Edward Kitsis. I can't remember the details but it was about issues such as using the "North Americanized" (aka Disney) versions of the stories instead of the original European versions as a starting point, but Disney being extremely open to to whatever adaptations they creators wanted to make.

    And speaking of Cinderella and the Valentine's day proposal, the Robert Carlyle commentary on that episode made me laugh. There's the girls' night bar scene, and Carlyle makes a comment like "Sounds like the beginning of a joke: Cinderella, Snow White, and Red Riding Hood walk into a bar ..." :rofl:

    BTW, in the season 2 wasteland version of fairytaleland, they've had to move further away from the Vancouver area for their scenery. I didn't recognize the exact location of Sleeping Beauty's castle, but it looked like it might have been somewhere in the Okanagan. It was really just one arial shot with the horses galloping, so not like they had to move the whole cast out there ... but I wonder how much of that landscape they'll be using for future episodes.
  28. Spareoom

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    I admit it, I CRIED when Snow and the Prince were reunited with Emma for the first time since she was a baby! Even though Emma was majorly weirded out, to see the joy that these two parents had at seeing their daughter again was SO sweet.

    I can't decide which person I dislike more; Rumple or Regina. Both had pretty bad things happen to them and did have a heart at one point, but didn't do the right thing afterwards. I think Regina's hatred is far more unprovoked. Rumple became the Dark One to save his son and it infected him, but Regina went on her mission of destroying lives out of pure revenge, and at a little girl who made an honest mistake. They both have done awful things but I think she's got far less justification for her actions then Rumple does. Although he seems to be taking a more proactive role in the bad stuff nowadays, there's at least a bit of hope that he could be saved. Regina, not so much.
  29. Artemis@BC

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    ITA. And pretty much the only significant plot point that's bothered me about this show since we saw her origin story. I keep hoping they'll write something that will make it make more sense -- like some kind of personality transplant when Regina's mother dies. We haven't seen that happen, after all, nor do we learn how Regina gains magical power. I'm guessing some kind of inheritance from her mother, so did the evilness come with that?
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    Regina saw the love of her life's heart ripped out and crushed in front of her. She fixated on revenge, with Snow as the fall guy. I don't think she's been rational since that happened. She's crazy, and only in very rare moments does the sane Regina surface.

    I like how they aren't making the villains evil sociopaths, and the heroes altruistic saints.

    eta- not to mention that she then had to marry and have sex with a man old enough to be her grandfather. Her mother tortured her.
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  31. Wyliefan

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    That's awesome. :rofl:
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    I couldn't get into this show last year. I tried quite a few times. I watched last night's episode. And I still can't get into it. Regina and Henry drive me batty with their bad acting.

    I can't help it. I'm done trying. :(
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    I loved the premier, one of the better ones that sets up a season in any shows I've watched.

    I can't wait to see Emma in Fairy Tale land clothing. I mean, she has to change into fresh new clothes eventually right!?

    Also the preview for next week...
    HOLY CRAP CAPTAIN HOOK IS HAWT!!!!!
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    HeatherC Go Team SW Florida! =)

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    If you don't want to know don't click the spoiler tag, but I do know who the next couple of episodes are centric for and I'm pumped for the upcoming stories. No huge spoilers here but I did put a little blurb where I knew one for each episode because I've been nosy this summer and couldn't wait to find out the centric subjects before the season, LOL :lol: :cheer:

    Episode 2: Regina centric (we should learn more about her origins and her mother's history with Rumpelstiltskin)
    Episode 3: Snow centric
    Episode 4: Rumpelstiltskin centric and the first episode Hook appears.
    Episode 5: Whale centric (should finally learn who the heck that twerp is :lol: )
    Episode 6: Emma centric (should learn more about Emma's back story)
    Episode 7: Red centric but this has not been confirmed yet
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  35. kwanatic

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    From the outside it looks like Regina's sworn revenge on a little girl for making a mistake, but when you look at it from her view (ie. blinded by grief and rage) then rationale doesn't really factor into her actions. Despite Snow's good intentions her actions resulted in David's death (his name was David, right?). Regina has yet to get past that and, from all indications, she has no intention of moving past it. I don't even think she wants to.

    Regina probably inherited the magic from her mother and I'm guessing that kind of magic had a corrupting effect on her and that's why she's all vindictive and evil.

    I love that there are stories behind the villains. I end up sympathizing and hating them simultaneously. It adds layers to the characters and the story...
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    I agree with your 2nd paragraph, but not the 1st. I think the only believable explanation here is that inheriting the magic somehow corrupted her soul (further).

    Her grief and anger after losing Daniel would have been a believable explanation if she'd lashed out at Snow at the time. Or, even more believable, lashing out at her mother. And Regina had lived under her mother's tyranny long enough to know who was really to blame for Daniel's death. But as rationale for a long-term, all-encompassing, obsessive vendetta to destroy not only the person who was an innocent child at the time of the betrayal but the entire realm ... nope, I just don't buy it.

    What happened with her mother has to be the missing piece of this puzzle -- and I have sufficient faith in the writers to deliver it to us at the right time. I'm thinking it will be somehow parallel with but different from Rumple's gaining-magic-results-in-losing-soul story.
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    Rationally, it makes no sense for her to be that upset with Snow. However, given the fact her mother was obviously an opportunistic and sadistic witch, one would assume the rotten apple doesn't fall that far from the tree. Motives aren't always so cut and dried when it comes to psychopathic evil people. I think Daniel's death unhinged Regina quite a bit...thus she's crazy, in pain, enraged, and evil with magic powers to boot.

    ITA about her mom. That part of the story hasn't been explored yet. My thought is Regina probably got revenge on her mother for Daniel's death, which leaves Snow to "pay" for her part in what happened...

    Rationally, Regina should get over it and move on...but, like I said, rationale doesn't come into play when you're talking about evil queens! :)
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  38. jeffisjeff

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    Did I see Lancelot in the preview of this season? That's a bit :huh: !
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    Casting News
    According to EW, the actor playing Captain Hook has already been upgraded to series regular. I wonder if he might be Emma new boyfriend.

    Carol
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