Olympic Team Event In?

Discussion in 'Great Skate Debate' started by AragornElessar, Apr 6, 2011.

  1. Vagabond

    Vagabond Well-Known Member

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    I'm sure similar arguments were made when baseball and softball were introduced as Olympic sports. It didn't happen, and those sports are no longer included in the Olympics.

    And it's not as if there are many countries that are really "lacking in just one of the 4 disciplines." For example, although Finland sent entries to Europeans in three discipline, its male singles skater and its dance couple didn't make it out of the Preliminaries. In fact, they weren't even close to qualifying for the Short Program.
     
  2. mia joy

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    I must say I'm a little bit torn.

    I agree that the only countries fighting here will be Russia, USA and Canada, which makes it a totally weak idea. On the other hand, I also agree with the statement that figure skaters deserve more Olympic medal chances than just one, like athletes in so many other disciplines. And of course, it would be great to have even more FS during Olympics for me as a fan!

    But then I have to say I feel really bad for the poor synchro skaters - why not giving them a chance to live their Olympic dream? I'm sure audiences all over the world (not necessarily FS fans - I for one do not like SS very much) could really like a spectacular sport like this.

    Duh, I really don't know what to think about this...
     
  3. SmallFairy

    SmallFairy Well-Known Member

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    so the idea is that one/two athletes competes pr country from each disclipine, and then the scores are put together?
     
  4. l'etoile

    l'etoile New Member

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    totally agree with you.
     
  5. DinDonShamu

    DinDonShamu New Member

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    I'd rather see extreme jumps/spins/footworks/etc events as proposed by gkelly(?) in the other thread added to the Olympics :shuffle: There are so few countries that are reasonably strong across all four disciplines that they really should just mail the medals now and be done with it.
     
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  6. BigB08822

    BigB08822 Well-Known Member

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    I have always been a huge fan of this idea, I have even asked for it years ago! I see no reason why this is a bad idea. If you don't think these athletes are capable of skating an extra performance then that is just silly. They skate run-throughs every day and are able to get up and walk the next day and do it all over again. These are athletes, not porcelain dolls.
     
  7. genevieve

    genevieve drinky typo pbp, closet hugger Staff Member

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    Isn't that what the individual competition already provides? Specialists (i.e. singles vs pairs/dance)? Unless as someone said they break the competition down to just spinning, certain jumps, some kind of "freestyle" moves, etc - which I sincerely hope isn't the case.

    I'm not excited about this in the least.
     
  8. GarrAarghHrumph

    GarrAarghHrumph I can kill you with my brain

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    Money and facilities and gender balance. I mean, my goodness, for synchro, they'd need to add significant numbers of dorm rooms, they'd probably need to add a separate ice facility or two, and it'd skew female. They are actually trying to shrink the Olympics in terms of participant numbers, not add significant numbers of athletes.
     
  9. julieann

    julieann Well-Known Member

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    I agree, some countries are so focused on one discipline that athletes who want to do another discipline are forced to go to another country. Maybe now they will focus on growing all 4 disciplines within their own country or they can't participate.

    But you see some countries dominate in other sports as well, that just happens. As far as letting syncro in, that would be cool but as of right now it seems to be a money issue with so many athletes they would have to add.

    I agree, what are we talking skating an extra 7 minutes? :lol:
     
  10. caseyedwards

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    I like more medal possibilies for skaters!
     
  11. overedge

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    I'm not impressed that apparently the IOC has decided to include a team skating event without any indications of how it would be structured/scored. Unless I am missing something.
     
  12. alilou

    alilou Crazy Stalker Lady

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    I'm sure I read somewhere over the past few months Cinquanta saying the team event would come before the individual events.

    Adding Synchro would mean about 200 more athletes (ten teams? of 20) plus all their backup people (coaches etc). It's not gonna happen.
     
  13. elanor

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    This would be very unfair when only some skaters get the opportunity while the others don't because they have no team with medal chances. The sport should be about fairness (naive, I know). Some will have multiple Olympic medals just because they happen to be Russian or Canadian. It would make me even more sad for good skaters who will never win the Olympic medal. The idea is nationalistic to the core and I hate it.

    It would be a little bit better if not the same skaters can do both events.

    Figure skating is an individualistic sport, not team sport. Getting medal with easy program or splatting all over the place because someone else landed many jumps or is a great ice dancer makes no sense to me.

    I would love synchro competition but, well, it's not going to happen.
     
  14. julieann

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    Individuals? So should we get rid of pairs and ice dancing as well?

    I hate comparing gymnastics with skating but there is nothing wrong with individuals pooling their efforts for a team score. Many other sports do it. Did you see the WTT?
     
  15. JerseySlore

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    Oh goodie, now there's a chance Reynolds or Leonova will have OGM under their belts. :scream:
     
  16. julieann

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    So? Sarah Hughes has one :eek:
     
  17. genevieve

    genevieve drinky typo pbp, closet hugger Staff Member

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    So? she earned it on her own

    Even though I'm not thrilled with this and don't think it will add to the sport, I'll certainly watch it if it comes to pass. I mean, I watched Skating With The Stars, quite unironically :lol:
     
  18. quebecoise

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    I completely agree with you about the "elements competitions", I'm sure they won't do that but more as World Team Trophy, but I just want to add those competitions already exists in Canada in local competitions(for learn-to-skate programs to senior bronze and adults). I do some of them for the last 3 years lol. It's really fun! but I won't agree if they do that on olympic level lol.
     
  19. julieann

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    Yes, but so will the other ones. Unless they make a rule where the lowest score doesn't medal the highest score can't do it by themselves can they?
    That is why they call it a TEAM sport. Isn't there always a slow runner on a relay team or even one that trips? So that person shouldn't get a medal even if the team wins? Give me a break :rofl:
     
  20. manhn

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    What runners trip and still win gold medals?
     
  21. genevieve

    genevieve drinky typo pbp, closet hugger Staff Member

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    My point was that your post implied that Sarah had somehow not earned her OGM. And if we're talking about teams, there is a lot more potential for someone with a less-than-stellar performance to medal/win, based on the greatness of their teammates.
     
  22. peibeck

    peibeck Letting Poje be on top

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    :scream: I deplore the idea of a team event. But I guess it means more exposure for the sport and money in the ISU coffers, so I can't complain too much. :shuffle:
     
  23. smartblade

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    As fans of figure skating I don't understand how people can really dislike the idea...figure skating is a popular major sport during the winter games it only helps develop the olympic movement. Its about promoting diversity and inclusion and i think team events are great for this. And figure skating is winter sports that i think can reach a larger potential of athletes from other countries.

    Lots of sports get team events why not figure skating... fyi they added team luge to the olympic program for 2014 and you can probably predict that Germany, Austria and Latvia will medal in team luge just as much as you can predict Can, Rus and USA will medal in team figure skating.

    I'd rather watch team figure skating!
     
  24. Visaliakid

    Visaliakid Well-Known Member

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    According to Speedy the team event will be held first with a one or two day break before the individual events will begin.

    There is some additional information here!

    One thing for sure, the coming many months here will be filled with yea and nea's on this new Olympic skating event with all it's myriad of reasons, but push comes to shove the great majority of we die-hard fans and a huge number of casual fans WILL WATCH it! :rofl:
     
  25. manhn

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    Wth is team luge? Isn't luge a team sport already?
     
  26. Sylvia

    Sylvia On to GP & U.S. Sectionals!

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    Reuters newswire article: http://www.universalsports.com/news/article/newsid=528406.html
     
  27. gkelly

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    To achieve that, they could just give separate medals for short and long programs, and make the requirements for each more different.
     
  28. smartblade

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    luge is seperate events of Singles Men, Singles Women, and Doubles Men, i'm assuming the team luge event is the best combined runs of all the disciplines.
     
  29. Cheylana

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    Wow, now that does sound like a bad idea. :eek:
     
  30. julieann

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    I guess you don't watch the relay events in sports a lot.