Olympic Spots

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  1. eurodance2001

    eurodance2001 Active Member

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    So so far we have GBR, UKR, EST and ISR in pairs and AUS, GEO, NOR, CZE, AUT, and BRA in ladies.

    Is that correct?
  2. N_Halifax

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    Yes, to my knowledge. Great to see Kemp and King earn a spot for Great Britain... also wonderful to see Australia and Brazil in ladies. I think it's fantastic as well that Elene Gedevanishvili earned a berth for Georgia as well. It's been a very up and down few years for her and she really pulled it off when it counted.
  3. eurodance2001

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    The girl from Norway did surprisingly well too. Any info on her? Brooklee did awesome as well! Isadora barely hung on but it was enough.
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    The real shocker of the ladies event to me was Sonia Lafuente. That's really unfortunate.
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    Oops I just now posted on the wrong thread; wanted to add here as well my salutations:

    Cheers to all the countries that just made the cut off! :40beers:
  6. nylynnr

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    I don't know -- thought Gedevanishvili was disappointing and held up a bit due to skating in the final group.
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    All of the performances are available to watch on ISU's official YouTube channel.
  8. SamuraiK

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    I'm Happy for the EST pair and happier for Brooklee and Anne-Line, personal faves of mine.

    Im not impressed about the UKR pair and I can0t believe the guy (Talan) is gonna be a two time olympian.

    Im crossing all my fingers tomorrow for Hurtado & Diaz to pull up.
  9. Ziggy

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    The Estonian pair might lack citizenship (him).

    What's your issue with Usmantseva/Talan? :p
  10. blue_idealist

    blue_idealist Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, I thought she would qualify without really any question. Didn't she skate in Vancouver, or am I wrong?
  11. Marco

    Marco Missing Ziggy

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    Well done Brooklee Han. She had just missed out qualifying for a spot directly from 2013 Worlds. Too bad about Finland. I had a freak moment when I saw Glebova's results, and then I remembered she qualified directly from Worlds :p.
  12. Josh78

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    Great to see some countries get spots that you don't normally see (Australia, Brazil)..HEARTBROKEN for Takahashi and Kihara of Japan being the first team out (but their might be citizenship issues for one or two of the pairs, so it might not be over just yet)...Also REALLY heartbroken for Finland that Juulia Turkkila just buried herself too far down after the SP to make a rally that would qualify a spot for Finland in ladies in the FS..but gosh she ALMOST did it...I can't imagine how Kiira must feel if she saw the competition though :(
  13. Marco

    Marco Missing Ziggy

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    Well it's not over yet, no? Some of those countries might still decide to not use their spots.
  14. eurodance2001

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    Well, Lithuania is the first substitute in line and then Finland.. There is some hope I guess..
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    As amazing a stat as it may seem, Australia has qualified and competed in Ladies every Games since 1998. That's five in a row now including Sochi. The ground-breaker will be if O'Brien and Merriman qualify. They would be the first ice dance team since 1988 and only the second ever.
  16. misskarne

    misskarne Spirit. Focus. Ability. Tenacity. Aussie Grit.

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    Had Juulia qualified, she should have been the one to go, even if Kiira had been fit. I think it would have been a great injustice if Juulia had skated her lights out, got the spot, and then been forced to hand it to Kiira.

    It could be our first man in 11 years, too!
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    Not a real issue I just dont think he deserves to be a 2-time olympian while some others more deserving never will go once. But thats the way sports is. At least this time he actually earned his spot instead of Vancouver where he went thanks to Volosozhar&Morozov only.
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    I'm happy for Elene. Whatever holding up may have occurred, I don't think she was given 16+ points more than she earned, and that was the distance between her and the skater from Lithuania.

    Sochi is so close to Georgia, it will be very special for her to skate there. Lots of fans and family who might not be able to see her in person, let alone at the Olympics, might have the chance to go.
  19. eurodance2001

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    And the men:
    ISR, ROU, PHL, AUS, UKR, ITA..
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    And dance: CHN, TUR, AUS, JPN and ESP! Well done! Or did china already have a spot from their worlds finish??
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    Melissa Bulanhagi just tweeted: "Good choice, Philippines"
    I guess it's safe to say she's done competing for them?? Even though Perticheto fell apart in the FS yesterday, would Melissa have done any better? Anything in her recent performances to show that she perhaps could've made it? That is unfortunate though.. The only girl that was weak yesterday whom made it was isadora Williams; the other 5 performed very well.. So who knows if Melissa could've edged isadora out of the spot..
  22. SamuraiK

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    I understand and sympathize with her frustration but tweeting snarky comments at the federation and Pertichetto is not going to take her anywhere.
  23. eurodance2001

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    Totally agree with you; it's in poor taste.
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    She should have taken the Kiira Korpi high road. Leaving aside her issues with the federation, it's not very classy to knock down Pertichetto like that.

    Unless she means it was a good choice to send Michael Christian Martinez ;) In which case, I agree!
  25. eurodance2001

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    Exactly; MCM did well! I hope that's what she meant although who knows.. :(
  26. SamuraiK

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    Under that logic Kovtun should go for RUS and lets forget about Plushenko and the other russians already. After all Maxim was the one who "earned" the spot. Same for Han Yan even if he beats Nan Song all season long. FS competitive structure for better or worse is based around federatiosn and not particular skaters so the spots are obtained for the countries and not locked to individuals.
  27. Sylvia

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    I think Melissa Bulanhagui really wanted the chance to skate head-to-head against Perticheto for the first time to decide who would go to Nebelhorn. Bulanhagui won the bronze medal at the Asian Open in Bangkok in August (she landed 3Lz+2T in both programs and skated much better overall than last season), but it was too little too late by then because the Philippine federation had apparently made its decision in June about which man and lady to send to Nebelhorn. I admire that Christopher Caluza has let his skating do the talking for him, and I hope the PHI federation will let their Nationals results decide who gets to go to the Sochi Olympics.

    Here's what Kiira Korpi tweeted yesterday: https://twitter.com/kiirakorpi_fi/status/383701992453177344
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  28. Sylvia

    Sylvia Whee, summer club comps!

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    No, China had to qualify here so those are the 5 countries that won Olympic spots today! :cheer:
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  30. NadineWhite

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    Beautiful eloquent words, Coco, I agree. :)


    Not only is she beautiful on the outside, but the inside as well. *insert rose & heart*
  31. twicken

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    well she had the same splatfest last year and failed to even make it to worlds so I don't know why she is whining about it now.

    Disagree entirely, the Philippines has nothing to gain by sending Caluza, let's be realistic here he will only be fighting to skate till the free (probably the same as Martinez) but sending a promising 16 year old makes much more sense.... not to mention he's the only local skater the Philippines has competing internationally. Him winning a spot then giving it away to a foreign skater will not look good for PSU or to the moral of local skaters
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  32. SamuraiK

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  33. NadineWhite

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    Interesting words, twicken (btw welcome to the board!).

    I have to say this is why I have always loved & appreciated Evgeni Plushenko so much. He was and is a true patriot. Despite the temptations of the West, he never left Russia. Through thick & thin he stayed. Imho this is why he is so beloved by his fellow Russians. They understand, they know. Jmho.
  34. Skittl1321

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    I'm sure she is devastated she didn't manage to qualify the spot: but how bittersweet it must be to qualify it, knowing that it would be given to someone else. (I absolutely do not think her motivation was to not get it: but even getting it wouldn't be as joyous for her as others.)
  35. Coco

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    It's not entirely fair to compare Kiira's sentiment with what Melissa's attitude "should" be. It's one thing to be replaced because you voluntarily withdrew due to injury and quite another to be overlooked or discarded.
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    If Bulanhagui had a better outing at 4 Continents, I think the decision would have been more clearer in her favour, but Perticheto had fairly consistent results at Junior Worlds, Gardena Trophy and Bavarian Open. IIRC, I believe some other federations did have a summer skate off for the single Nebelhorn spot.
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  38. misskarne

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    No. There's a difference between the Worlds system of qualifying, which everyone knows and is almost an entire year before the event, and the Nebelhorn qualifying. Nebelhorn qualifiers are usually the ones to go to the Olympics, while Worlds teams change year to year. Plus, the attitude towards skaters qualifying spots at Worlds is not as callous as this one was. Juulia may as well not have had a personal identity of her own or dreams of her own; as far as many fans were concerned, who cares about her skating, just get Kiira the spot. That's an awful attitude.

    Reminds me a little of the whole Ian Thorpe thing back in 2004...
  39. N_Halifax

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    Some really interesting points made here. Coco, I very much agree with your point about there being a difference between being injured and not being chosen. I also think Kiira's tweet was very well worded. I couldn't even begin to imagine her disappointment. I also couldn't even to begin to imagine Melissa's. She's already indicated that if she continues in the sport, it may well be skating pairs with Taylor Toth (presumably for the U.S.??). I can't see her continuing with the Philippine Skating Union. And I get where Melissa's coming from, even if she hasn't been as 'diplomatic' or 'PR friendly' as Korpi and many others who missed out on their Olympic dream. Overall, she's got a ton more experience than someone like Perticheto. Plushenko obviously has a lot more experience than Kovtun. Alena Leonova, for instance, has a lot more experience overall than either Elizaveta or Adelina. Amelie Lacoste... Jeremy Abbott... there are a lot of skaters in the hunt for a trip to Sochi whose overall careers have shown more overall success than the skaters who have excelled in say, the last year. Figure skating tends to be very dismissive of skaters based on one bad season, and as the sport has proven time and time again, there's something to be said for longevity and not giving up.
  40. SamuraiK

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    Every skater going to Nebelhorn also knows the rules and Nebelhorn is a whole six months before the olympics so the date excuse is just as arbitrary as chosing Worlds as a qualifier. The attitude of some fans (i hardly say they are the majority) doesnt change the fact that is perfectly according to the rules tu use the spot at the discretion of the federation.