Olympic Champion SURVIVOR: Pairs Round 1

Discussion in 'The Trash Can' started by skateboy, Jul 20, 2012.

Who is the weakest link?

Poll closed Jul 24, 2012.
  1. Belousova/Protopopov

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    0.6%
  2. Rodnina/Ulanov

    2 vote(s)
    1.1%
  3. Rodnina/Zaitsev

    1 vote(s)
    0.6%
  4. Valova/Vasiliev

    20 vote(s)
    11.4%
  5. Gordeeva/Grinkov

    1 vote(s)
    0.6%
  6. Mishkutenok/Dmitriev

    3 vote(s)
    1.7%
  7. Kazakova/Dmitriev

    22 vote(s)
    12.6%
  8. Berezhnaya/Sikharulidze

    4 vote(s)
    2.3%
  9. Sale/Pelletier

    97 vote(s)
    55.4%
  10. Totmianina/Marinin

    21 vote(s)
    12.0%
  11. Shen/Zhao

    3 vote(s)
    1.7%
  1. skateboy

    skateboy Well-Known Member

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    Okay, now for the Olympic Champion SURVIVOR!

    The rules are: vote for the weakest link. For the first three rounds, we'll eliminate the bottom two. After that, one at a time. Other than that, there are no rules.
     
  2. Blair

    Blair New Member

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    I'm always amazes at how people insist that Sale and Pelletier are so terrible...or at least terribly inferior to their rivals.

    IMO, the strength of their elements alone puts them near the top of this list.
     
  3. crankyintheAM

    crankyintheAM Member

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    :soapbox: I hope Sale/Pelletier and their fake gold medal go first :lynch:
     
  4. flipforsynchro

    flipforsynchro New Member

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    Can someone explain to me why so many people hate S/P? Besides the gold medal part.
     
  5. skateboy

    skateboy Well-Known Member

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    That's the only reason.
     
  6. Cherub721

    Cherub721 YEAH!

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    S&P were definitely voted out too quickly in the other poll, ahead of teams with no Olympic medal and only 1 world title (and even those who do not agree that S&P should have won in SLC surely must believe they deserved silver). However, in this poll, their record does put them near the bottom. Their OGM was originally a silver. They only have 1 World title. R&Z have 6; Protopopovs, R&U, and G&G have 4; V&V and S&Z have 3; B&S and T&M have 2. Only K&D lack World gold, but their OGM win is unquestionable (except the German judge :rolleyes:). S&P have no other World medals.

    Based on their records, K&D and S&P would be eliminated this round. Obviously, there's other factors to consider, and S&P do have some great pair elements and a few memorable programs. I would rather watch them over Rodnina and partners or S&Z, myself, and I did not vote for them this round. But I don't think they're hard-done-by if they go first in this poll.
     
  7. Badams

    Badams Well-Known Member

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    :huh:I had no idea that was the reason I disliked them so much! :rofl:
     
  8. falling_dance

    falling_dance D. Murakami's Newest Fan

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    I think a lot of people here find even S/P's best performances too sugary for their liking.
     
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  9. satchelpooch318

    satchelpooch318 New Member

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    I just hope the winners of this game are the Protopopovs! :D
    (I'll also accept Rodnina + partner as a second choice.)
     
  10. Cherub721

    Cherub721 YEAH!

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    We all know it'll be G&G. Ho-hum.
     
  11. satchelpooch318

    satchelpooch318 New Member

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    Aww...no disrespect to Sergei, of course.
     
  12. jamesy

    jamesy wind up merchant

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    fake snowball choreo
     
  13. Macassar88

    Macassar88 Well-Known Member

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    Yes please
    Anyway, I don't hate them exclusively for their fake gold. It's also because of her unsportsmanlike conduct when the marks came up and their boring recycled program with no choreography and transitions. And the fact that they fell in the short program and shouldn't have placed second.
    Also I didn't like Orchid. I still can't understand why everyone thought it was so amazing.
     
  14. skateboy

    skateboy Well-Known Member

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    Really? I loved them, but they're not my first choice.
     
  15. Blair

    Blair New Member

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    For all the criticisms of S/P, aren't Kazakova/Dmitriev or Totmianina/Marinin worse on all counts? Technique, choreography, skating skills?
     
  16. gingercrush

    gingercrush New Member

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    No Totmianina & Marinin have way better skating skills. I don't really care for pairs skating that much. I guess the choice is between Gordeeva & Grinkov or Rodnina & Zaitseva for the win.
     
  17. judgejudy27

    judgejudy27 Well-Known Member

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    Sale & Pelletier. Unlike the other poll it is even easier to vote for them first this time as they are truly the weakest pair on the list this time, in addition to the biggest jerks.
     
  18. judgejudy27

    judgejudy27 Well-Known Member

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    Totmiana & Marinin are way stronger jumpers, and overall stronger technically than S&P, although S&P did have stronger lifts and a stronger twist. I dont see S&P beating them often or ever under COP had they continued. I also think Totmianina & Marinin once matured had better lines and superior basic skating, and S&P's choreography was just as simple for the most part.

    Kazahkova & Dmitriev? Both S&P and K&D werent around very long and skated under different times so not really sure how they compare. S&P are worse jumpers than pretty much every top 10 pair of any modern era, Jamie can barely jump at all, even though Oksana had some jump issues at times. S&P had harder lifts and stronger death spirals. I prefered the choreography and programs of K&D personally.
     
  19. judgejudy27

    judgejudy27 Well-Known Member

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    1. Many of us believe they were clearly favored by politics and being propped up for 2 seasons bring to the SLC games. At some events they would even make major mistakes and beat a clean Bereznaya & Sikharulidze which is ridiculous. They managed to go undefeated except for 1 minor event for 2 years despite Jamie almost never doing a competition without atleast 2 major jumping errors over the 2 programs combined.

    2. Their sportsmanship is terrible and hit its apex in SLC.

    3. They had one signature program which makes them look like a one trick pony.
     
  20. blue_idealist

    blue_idealist Well-Known Member

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    Kazakova and Dmitriev. I'm too much of a Sale/Pelletier fan to vote them out at this point, although I probably should by at least the third round.
     
  21. crankyintheAM

    crankyintheAM Member

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    Co-signed!

    They just do NOT belong in the list, they're not real Olympic Champions so it's only logical that they're eliminated ASAP.
     
  22. pollyanna

    pollyanna playing the Glad Game

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    Ditto. :p
     
  23. sk8ingcoach

    sk8ingcoach Active Member

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    People need to start voting for the actual weakest team, and not the team with bad sportsmanship. In terms of elements, S/P should be perhaps top 5 on this list
     
  24. Blair

    Blair New Member

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    Agreed! If we aren't judging these teams on skating ability, why have this discussion of a FS board?
     
  25. berthesghost

    berthesghost Well-Known Member

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    I voted k&d. I'm still traumatized by the sp death spiral attempt. :yikes::scream:
     
  26. zilam98

    zilam98 Well-Known Member

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    skating ability? s/p? i dont think so
     
  27. satchelpooch318

    satchelpooch318 New Member

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  28. museksk8r

    museksk8r Holding an edge and looking dangerously sexy

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    Easily Sale/Pelletier, since they never should have been (dual) Olympic Champions anyway. Olympic gold should be an honor, not an entitlement. :shuffle:
     
  29. my little pony

    my little pony snarking for AZE

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    but lots of people think s/p is the weakest team
     
  30. Vagabond

    Vagabond Well-Known Member

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    Lots of people weren't even born when Kazakova and Dmitriev (among others) were competing. Or if they were, they're too young to remember anything back then. :shuffle: