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Discussion in 'Off The Beaten Track' started by Marge_Simpson, May 14, 2011.

  1. Marge_Simpson

    Marge_Simpson Well-Known Member

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    OMG, OMG......I will have to do a detailed review tomorrow, because I just got home and it was so beautiful....I was overwhelmed. It was SUBLIME.
    I was in a box with a woman around my age and her daughter....during the act II pdd, I heard the older woman let out a sob, and her daughter whispered "Mom, don't, you'll get me started"....within seconds all 3 of us were in tears.

    emason, I have never seen Jose and Diana dance together, but I can see how it would be a total bust. I have seen 2 Swan Lakes with Jose with especially memorable moments, however. I don't recall who he was dancing with in the first, but when he threw himself off the cliff to commit suicide, there must have been an extra-springy mattress waiting to break his fall......and he popped back up. :lol: Totally ruined the moment when the audience started giggling.
    The second was a matinee with Gillian Murphy. They had just started the act II pdd when a toddler in one of the GT boxes started screaming at the top of his lungs. The ushers paused before rushing the box, I imagine they were hoping his mother would hustle him out of there pronto. She didn't, though, and it was several minutes before silence was restored. I was sure the orchestra would stop and start the music again, but Jose and Gillian did not miss a thing and just kept going right through the ruckus.
     
  2. emason

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    Marge Simpson, I saw a Giselle with Vishneva and Malakhov about 4 seasons or so ago. It was amazing. Vishneva is not like any other Giselle I have ever seen; she was completely earthbound, a real stolid peasant in Act I and then she turned into the most ethereal light as air creature in Act II. Stylistically she and Malakhov were a great fit also. It was a sublime night of dancing.

    I'm glad you had a great performance last night. It makes up for that snore of an evening we sat through on Tuesday.
     
  3. Holley Calmes

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    Sigh! If only.....

    But love the mattress story. I was an apprentice for an outdoor theatre at Chastain Park in Atlanta (now a hugely successful music concert venue where nobody listens to the music because they're trying to outdo each other with their food presentation...) We produced a full length Swan Lake OUTDOORS and had Lupe Serrano as Odette Odile and a gentleman from the Royal Ballet as Seigfried. He was one of the bunch miffed at Nureyev and casting about for other experiences. Very regal guy. eta: It was David Blair.

    In this production, Lupe had to hit an arabesque at the top of the "cliff" and fall sideways over. She was to be caught by a number of stage hands...and she was. However, the yelps and shouts of said stagehands when they so anxiously retrieved her was quite loud, and the front rows definitely had their dramatic moment turned comic.

    It was my first full length Swan Lake. It was cool to have it outdoors....very atmospheric.
     
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  4. IceAlisa

    IceAlisa Épaulement!!!

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    A detailed review, please! :)
     
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  6. Holley Calmes

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    Can I be her for a day? two days?
     
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  8. IceAlisa

    IceAlisa Épaulement!!!

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    I do believe that's the Gamzatti variation from La Bayadère, not Le Corsaire. Minor detail. But yeah, she is a little hovercraft.
     
  9. Holley Calmes

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    I think that variations and music get transplanted from ballet to ballet. Whatever the ballerina prefers, sometimes. Gamzatti's variation - if you mean the one in the engagement party scene, is in tutu, and yes, that was it. But I've seen variations from Bayadere in Don Quixote and etc. It's still gorgeous!
     
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    I saw the matinee today. It was supposed to be Irina Dvorovenko and her husband Maxim Beloserkovsky, but Maxim apparently was injured and replaced by guest artist Johan Kobborg :wuzrobbed Still, it was amazing. I enjoyed Irina's interpretation of Giselle, I felt she brought a real innocence (not sure that's the word I'm going for) to the role. I really liked the set designs and costumes, and there was far more dancing than I remembered last time I saw this ballet. The second act set design was particularly haunting and I just couldn't take my eyes off Giselle and the Count in their PDD at the end, even though I obviously would have preferred Irina and her hubby (sniff).

    I have a beef with the plot, though: Why is Hilarion treated as the villain when Count Albrecht was the one who was two-timing? :lol:
     
  12. emason

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    Variation on the classic 'kill the messenger' theme. Don't like the bad news - take it out on the messenger.

    Seriously, though, more details about the performance, please.
     
  13. Cheylana

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    Well, I guess nobody likes a tattletale :p

    I am hopelessly no-teknik, so I'm hoping Marge can fill in the holes! :) But a few other thoughts:

    - I loved when the hunting party came on the stage in the first act. The costumes were very grand and royal. And it even included two live dogs. I guess they are supposed to be hunting dogs, but they just looked like beautiful showdogs. They didn't bark or anything. Good doggies :D

    - Myrta, the head of the Wilis, was performed by Michelle Wiles. She was good, though she seemed a little stiff in spots and I thought her leaps didn't seem as high as Irina's. But again, I'm no-teknik, so that may all be quite deliberate.

    - The wilis were quite good. The costumes and some of the choreo reminded me of the swans in Acts Two and Four of Swan Lake.

    - Still, Irina was the definite star. It was hard to take your eyes off of her when she was on stage.

    - The five- and six-year old girls sitting to my right were the best-behaved people in my section. They put the adults (especially the old people) to shame. Just sayin'!
     
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    Could very well be. They definitely were tall and long-haired, and beautiful, like the dog in that pic!
     
  16. Lara

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    At intermission. First act was wonderful and Cojocaru is sublime in this role. I'm not in technik when it comes to ballet but there's a part in her solo where she flutters her legs (battiment perhaps?) and she was light as air. So lovely. Looking forward to act 2!

    PML, someone next to me is also wondering why Hilarion's to blame! :lol:
     
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    I'm envying you guys sooo much right now...
    And I'm delighted to read your impressions here :).

    Since I live in the forgotten land of international ballet (no company *ever* comes over, we had the Kirov in 2000 and that was it :wuzrobbed ), I'll limit myself to post youtubes.

    Speaking of Gamzatti

    Is the entire broadcast of this available somewhere? I'd love to get my hands (eyes :p) on it
    I've seen excerpts on youtube, and I honestly think there are no better Nikiya/Gamzatti as Asylmuratova/Bussell.
     
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  18. Holley Calmes

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    Darcy Bussell! My favorite Gamzatti......iconic. Thanks for reminding me.
     
  19. emason

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    Thanks for posting; that was interesting to look at, but I don't think you are going to be delighted to read my impression. Bussell is telegraphing her turns way too much for my taste. As we used to say, 'her technique is showing'; that's not a good thing so far as I am concerned.

    However, I don't think I have ever seen a Gamzatti I thought was truly good. I don't remember who danced with Vishneva when the Kirov brought it to NY several years ago, but that Gamzatti was good IIRC. None of ABT's dancers ever do it for me in this role, and except for that Kirov performance, I've never seen another company do Bayadere. Alas, I have also never had a chance to see Bussell dance, so I shouldn't really judge her on that one clip, but really, I don't think she's good in that clip - she's not dancing, she's just executing some moves.

    Running away from the tar and feathers now.
     
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  20. IceAlisa

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    Apparently my favorite ballerina Diana Vishneva did the Dying Swan at some point. And there is no video on youtube! :fragile: :wall:

    If anyone ever comes across a video of this, please please please post. I would be eternally grateful.

    I would love to see how she compares to the sublime Lopatkina Dying Swan.
     
  21. beepbeep

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    :lol:
    Besides some years on Adult Ballet classes, I'm not much of teknik, so unless it's really bad (Somova in her old days bad) I really don't mind.
    And I meant your impressions from the live preformances you guys have been watching these days.

    What I like about Darcey here is her portrayal of the role, the maturity (am I making sense here??). They just don't make them like that these days.
    Ok, maybe Dupont, but I've never watched her as Gamzatti.
     
  22. emason

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    I'm actually not in much teknik, either, but some things really bother me when I see them. However, yes, you are making sense. Gamzatti needs to be strong; after all she is a rajah's daughter. All the ABT dancers I have seen are much too passive; I think they have been brainwashed into thinking Nikiya is the be all and end all of the ballet and they shouldn't do anything to detract from the star - wrong.
     
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    You're comparing her (Dupont) to best firecracker these days. :D I was going for Dupont for the maturity factor.
    I haven't watched that one of Osipova before, thanks, that was awsome.

    We had the Cuban ballet here some years ago and it was the very best Don Q I've ever seen (although I can't remember the line up to save my life...). Flawless interpretation (well, they're latin...). Bonus of having Alicia Alonso being walked to the stage to take bows with the cast at the end.

    Has anyone watched Semionova in Don Q with the ABT? I read she was quite good.
     
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    True, there is no firecracker more fiery than Osipova. Her La Sylphide is also fantastic. I think dramatic roles like the second act of Giselle are her weak point.
    :eek: I would LOVE to see that.
     
  26. Lara

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    Back home. :coffee:

    I'm so very grateful to have seen this. I only wish I was knowledgeable enough to fully appreciate just how good it was.
     
  27. Holley Calmes

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    Absolutely! Gamzatti is a conniving, scheming, murderess, man-snatching bitch who likes to slap her rivals around. Imperious too. She is the perfect foil for the goodness of Nikiya. A limp Gamzatti would destroy the dramatic tension of the whole ballet! Besides, what actress worth her salt wouldn't rather play a bitch than the good girl? Well..ok...maybe some, but I know I'd rather play a bad girl any day! :lol:
     
  28. IceAlisa

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    So I've been in an Osipova state of mind (I adore her) and thought that the Esmeralda variation and even some moves would make a great short program for Mirai: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WV0jT1Do6NQ&feature=related

    (how awesome is this Esmeralda? Even with the telegraphed and a bit wonky turns). The end pose SO reminds me of Sasha Cohen. :lol:
     
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