Numerology

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  1. Vash01

    Vash01 Fan of Julia, Elena, Anna, Liza, and Vera

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    I had only heard of Numerology, but today I happened to find 'The idiot's guide to Numerology' and found it to be very interesting. It was not about picking numbers to win a lottery or anything like that. The writers (Kay Lagerquist & Lisa Lenard) explain different kinds of numbers (5 core numbers) based on your date of birth, name, etc. that describe your personality, what is important to you in life, etc. It even covered the number for the house you live in, number for the business, etc. It was very interesting.

    Has anyone used Numerology or at least had some interest in it? Did it work for you in some way?
     
  2. Japanfan

    Japanfan Well-Known Member

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    I've practiced astrology - even worked in the capacity of an amateur astrology. I love it and find a good deal of truth and insight in it.

    In the fact, my first post on a figure skating board (SFU's predecessor) was about astrology. And someone responded "suffer a witch to die in hell" or however it goes in response.

    I think there is wisdom to be found in numerology as well.
     
  3. Aussie Willy

    Aussie Willy Well-Known Member

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    After a friend told me a while ago about bad and good numbers, I kind of felt one of my previous places that I lived in for many years but I had really horrible neighbours might have something to do with it. Because when I totalled the numbers it was the worst number it could have been (number 4).

    Since I moved I have had good numbers and the places have been good. And my new place that I own totals to number 8. So things are looking good in life.
     
  4. fluorescein

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    Oh no! My house number adds up to 4 and I love this place. Things go up and down over 20 years, but on the whole, I'd say my life is really good. My street adds up to 20 though - now I want to check out Numerology for Dummies.
     
  5. Tinami Amori

    Tinami Amori Well-Known Member

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    Really guys......... This is worst than Communism......:D

    Adult, educated, cultured people are talking about "fortune in numbers".
    This is not funny! And not just a “different opinion”… this is dangerous to put your life situations on the randomness of numbers in your immediate life.

    Don’t sweat guys….. No matter what numbers are in your life now, if you don’t get out of bed and brush your teeth – the toothbrush will not pop into your mouth on its own. If you car is out of gas, the gas station will not drive over to your car…..

    So now it’s numbers that determine the outcome of your life……. Perhaps if you are not rich – you had the wrong numbers in your life…….

    Might as well be reading the coffee sediments in your morning coffee cup......:rolleyes:


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  6. Aussie Willy

    Aussie Willy Well-Known Member

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    TA - You know - some of us are not taking this too seriously. It is interesting but we don't live our lives by it. Someone asked the question and some of us have answered. And some have found certain relevance to their lives when these things have come up.

    However there are a number of things that people believe in or follow. They are all pretty harmless and more about people's self beliefs rather than imposing their ideas on others (unlike religion which most people don't seem to question).
     
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  7. Vash01

    Vash01 Fan of Julia, Elena, Anna, Liza, and Vera

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    Tinami,

    I don't think any of us is taking this seriously to the extent it controls our lives. It's just something that made me curious. It may be something like Feng Shui or Astrology (though Astrology has been studied extensively)- I find it interesting but none of those things control my life.
     
  8. Wyliefan

    Wyliefan Well-Known Member

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    I really don't think you need to worry.
     
  9. catatonic

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    Years ago before we were married, my husband, then boyfriend told me he did/played a numerology game at work. A few of the ladies at work were doing this questionnaire from a magazine (or book) to determine the birth date of your future spouse. He participated and told me our birth dates were off by one day. Of course I asked him to bring me the test and he of course being a typical male said he had tossed it. Have anyone heard about a game like this?
     
  10. victoriaheidi

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    Numerology and astrology fascinate me! I just don't know much about either field. Someone I met online was trying to teach me astrology (like, we began from the very beginning...she taught me all about the houses and the basics), but she was going through a lot of personal stuff and didn't really have the time to get beyond the very basic stuff with me.
     
  11. Andrushka

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    I've always had an interest in numerology.I don't let it control my life by any means,or change my mind about something based on numbers.I just find it interesting.Like the astrology stuff about your personality based on your sign.Sometimes it's right.Sometimes it's wrong.
     
  12. Tinami Amori

    Tinami Amori Well-Known Member

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    OK.....:D glad to hear it..

    For some reason this topic made me think of an old comical drawing in an old soviet comedy magazine "Krokodil". It's a pencil drawing:

    - A man is backing away from a Black Cat who just ran in front of him. He is moving back-wards, just one step away from a balcony, where a White Cat just knocked over a flower pot which is flying above the Man's head.... :D
     
  13. orientalplane

    orientalplane Mad for mangelwurzels

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    So what more proof do you need that it's nonsense? :p
     
  14. Andrushka

    Andrushka Well-Known Member

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    I never said it was not nonsense,just said it is interesting ;) :p
     
  15. orientalplane

    orientalplane Mad for mangelwurzels

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    OK. :)
     
  16. Vash01

    Vash01 Fan of Julia, Elena, Anna, Liza, and Vera

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    Enjoy your comedy. It has nothing to do with me.
     
  17. VIETgrlTerifa

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    My Astronomy professor used to tell us that if we wanted to find the sign that was most compatible to us, just wake up in the morning, read the horoscopes, and just pick one that's the most relevant to how you feel at that moment. If it doesn't turn out right, just pick another.
     
  18. Tinami Amori

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    It has nothing to do with you.....:), was not intended to.

    It has to do with "superstition", and I think that numerology is a form of superstition...:slinkaway
     
  19. Aussie Willy

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    Well there are a lot of things that people think are a form of "superstition" (some could also include religion in this). But as long as people are not hurting anyone then I can't see the harm.
     
  20. Tinami Amori

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    I agree, as long as there is no harm to others. Would not want to see a person not looking for a job and collecting welfare just because he thinks that the number of his house is unlucky..... or not going to work on Friday 13th.... :D
     
  21. Vash01

    Vash01 Fan of Julia, Elena, Anna, Liza, and Vera

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    It becomes superstition if you believe it without much information. Astrology is a science, but if someone totally believes it without the data, it does not help. I don't know enough about numerology to know if there is statistical information about how accurate it is. Nothing is 100% accurate, so it's a matter of what percent accurate something is. I don't really have the time to spend on it since I don't plan on using it. Someone else may, and you (TA) don't need to be condescending toward that person just because someone believes in something.
     
  22. Aussie Willy

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    Actually it is the nutters such as that person who sucked people into believing about the rapture who are the ones we should all be worried about.
     
  23. VIETgrlTerifa

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    That's where I disagree. Not that people don't have a right to believe in it or think that it's valid or insightful, but I haven't seen any thing that truly backs up Astrology as a science.
     
  24. Tinami Amori

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    I have not seen such either..... but will gladly listen to a scientifically based discussion on how various force fields from planets and cosmic influences may affect human bodies. I certainly allow a possibility that weather, temperature (i.e. time of the year in a given geographic location) affect fetuses and newborns.
     
  25. Vash01

    Vash01 Fan of Julia, Elena, Anna, Liza, and Vera

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    The true astrologers do calculations based on time & place of birth, etc. to determine strong and weak times. Those are probabilistic rather than definite - it's not math, and I am not talking about the daily horoscopes types.
     
  26. VIETgrlTerifa

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    Ok, when astrologers do calculations based on time and place of birth, what are they measuring exactly? What is their hypothesis and what is the dependent variable that they are looking for? Also, how do they control for other factors that might also affect whatever it is they are measuring?
     
  27. Japanfan

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    They are determining the position of the sun, moon, and planets (and sometimes other celestial bodies, i.e. the nodes of the moon) at the time of your birth within a certain zodiac. There are different zodiacs- the one which western astronomers and astrologers use most commonly is the sidereal zodiac.

    In drawing up a birth chart adjustments have to be made for longitude and latitude and time difference from Greenwich. The birth-chart data is scientific/astronomical. It's the interpretation that is astrological.

    The basic assumption of astrology is that what's happening in the sky at the time of an individual's birth has an impact on that individual's life.

    The chart consists of 12 houses, sun, moon and all the other planets. The four key angles of the chart are important, and the sign rising in your chart (rising in the zodiac at your time of birth, the cusp of the 1st house) is one of the key aspects. The Moon is also key. And the placement of the elements by sigh and house, as well as the relationships/configurations of and between the elements, are taken into account in a reading. There are squares, stelliums, trines and oppositions, positions of exaltation and positions of detriment or fall.

    Because of all this, the sun sign is more or less important - popular sun sign readings are really useless because they don't account for the nuances and complexity of the chart.

    Readings extend beyond the birth chart itself to include the relationship between the planets in the birth chart and where the planets are at a given point in an individual's life. This indicates fields of experience and types of growth or limitation at a certain point in one's life. There is another process called the progressed chart.

    Reading astrology charts is an art as well as science which often incorporates spiritual viewpoints (i.e. the chart reveals karma). It takes years of study and practice to become adept at it.

    I have found that there is a good deal of truth in astrology. What I like about it is that is does not tend to be dogmatic - most astrologers will tell you that the chart is a guide, not a prescription, and indicative of potentialities rather than a singular destiny.

    Scientifically I believe there is some evidence of the validity of the four angles in the chart. I'd have to look up the reference though.
     
  28. Vash01

    Vash01 Fan of Julia, Elena, Anna, Liza, and Vera

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    Japanfan,

    Thanks for explaining it so well. Yes, it is an art and a science to create, read and interpret astrological charts for an individual, and the only ones I take seriously are the individual charts made and interpreted by an expert astrologer who has spent years developing those skills. Often it is passed on from generation to generation, so some of them have known it practically their whole lives. As in any profession the level of expertise varies, and in this case the variation is very large, because not every astrologer would have the same amount of education and/or experience. Further, it depends quite a bit on the natural talent also, unlike (for example) physical science.