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Discussion in 'Great Skate Debate' started by cholla, Oct 7, 2012.

  1. Zemgirl

    Zemgirl Well-Known Member

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    Because someone(s) in their federation had awful taste in music and choreo?

    DenStavs.
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPs8EsT_8YA

    Here is the FD practice of P&B, this is quite refreshing...
    After watching this, I think that we did not see the best side of this program at all, IMO you can see a lot more chemistry on this video, and you can see the ending which they missed...
    The program has some real potential...
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    I agree looks great I love it !
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    Thank you! I am glad they don't give up fighting for more. I know that a lot of people think that their time is over, but I believe that they can at least beat one of the Canton teams.They have wonderful skating skills and an unique look on the ice.
    Allez,Nathalie et Fabian!
  8. aka_gerbil

    aka_gerbil Rooting for the Underdogs

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    I'm also glad to see that fighting spirit. For the longest time, I've thought it was really V/M and P/B who were the two real best teams out there. V/M have my heart, but I'd love to see P/B move past D/W this year.
  9. Marta24

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    When I watched D/W's FD on TV,I also thought that they could be overtaken by P/B. P/B's SD is gorgeous and their FD, although they had a mistake, is so groovy.
  10. aka_gerbil

    aka_gerbil Rooting for the Underdogs

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    I think once V/M get their SD cleaned up and mileage on that FD, they're going to be in a league of their own. For my money though, I've long thought that P/B have far better skating skills than D/W, and, this year, they definitely by far have the best set of programs behind V/M. Actually, I love P/B's and V/M's SD's equally, and P/B's FD is, IMO, considerably better than D/W's, which I find to largely be a retread of S&D and POTO that's not very well constructed (3 lifts in a row?). The only thing I'm a little iffy on with P/B's FD is ending with "Start Me Up."

    It's been my dream for so long to see V/M and P/B go 1 and 2, and I'm hoping that maybe this season... *knock on wood* *turn, spit, curse*
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    And W/P as 3 :D (dreaming is always allowed)
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    I am really curious to see how the judges will see them compared to the Russians and Canadians this week. That is a big first step to keep their current ranking in the world. At least, the controllers/tech specialists from GB, Italy and Hungary don't have a history of questionnable calls (or do they?)
    I wish that their Cancan used more spectacular Cancan tricks...but as a lot of French dancers, they are not flexible enough to master those tricks (If only they did more ballet in their younger years... like Zhulin suggested)
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    Tiffany Zahorski and Alexis Miart have split up. :-( I got a message from Tiffany. She is looking for a new partner. Please spread the word so that potential partners get the information. Thank you!
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    so it´s finally official
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  16. IceIceBaby

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    Miart is not continuing? I really liked this pair and was hoping to see them in senior level one day... :(
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    The story goes that Miart suddenly stopped skating a couple of months ago without telling the coaches or Tiffany that he wasn't coming back.
    He'd got engaged in the summer and it seems to be the old story of romance getting in the way of skating.
    The last anyone has heard of him, is that he is working in a bar.. what a waste of talent....
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    Oh, wow I did not know that Alexis Miart was engaged! I wish he continued with the sport though, I really enjoyed his skating. I hope Tiffany is able to find a partner and compete again.
  19. Eislauffan

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    Olivier Schoenfelder told me in September that Alexis had stopped skating. The Federation apparently didn't want to announce the split officially (I think they usually never do that anyway). They also kept the team on the entry list for TEB for a while and when they were withdrawn, the official reason was injury (Miart). They probably still hoped to convince him to come back. Now I think Tiffany has given up that hope and therefore announced that she is in search of a partner. Best of luck to her!
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    Wow, I hope Miart won't regret his decision in the future. But if he doesn't have the passion to the sport anymore it's understandable that he doesn't want to continue. I think Tiffany will someone else, soon.
  21. Sylvia

    Sylvia Whee, summer club comps!

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    Brian Joubert has a lovely LP this season and the choreo is not stuck in the 6.0 system like some of his past programs. Quite a lot better than Amodio's IMO.
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    Amodio said in the press conference at TEB that he will be changing his SP for the rest of the season.
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    What do you think is going to happen for Carron/Jones ?.Nothing seems to be working for them they seem to be going nowhere.Such a shame for Pernelle as she was so high up at Euros with her previous partner.This partnership just doesn't seem to be working.They've changed coaches and they have quite a nice FD .
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    On a positive note, they performed well at the Master's and at the NRW and have met the minimum scores for worlds. On a not-so-good note, they would have wanted to perform better at their two GPs. It's hard to believe that someone like Pernelle has not been to the Olympics yet, especially since she seems to have been in seniors for a good while now. I actually think their dances are more appealing this year than they have been in previous years, but it seems that technical mistakes let them down in their two GPs. The standard is so high these days.
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    I briefly checked the protocoles, they had many level 4, it's the GOE that were not so high. I too feel they made big progress under Marika.
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    Oh dear! Well, at least he skates in TEB ... Not terribly well, but well enough to give him a bit of confidence going into euros I guess ...
  29. Jeschke

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    what´s with iliusheckina/koccon? are they done?
  30. Sylvia

    Sylvia Whee, summer club comps!

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    Many thanks for the link, Sylvia!

    I love Berlot's general observations.
  32. Zemgirl

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    I enjoyed the article too. I wasn't impressed with Amodio's "new" SP but it's better than some of the alternative possibilities I've seen floated online.

    FYI, L'Equipe is reporting that Brian Joubert has scrapped the Inception LP (which I thought had promise) and will use Gladiator for his LP instead, choreography by Laurie May. Cue the inevitable comments about Yagudin... although I think this is actually the first time Joubert will have a competitive LP to music Yagudin skated to in competition.
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    WTF? Amodio's flamenco sp was one of his better programs, and the Inception program really suited Brian. :confused:
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    Amodio after TEB was quoted as saying he didn't feel comfortable skating to flamenco and was going to ask Morozov to choreograph a new SP for him. It now turns out that his new SP is actually a short version of his LP of last season.

    As far as Joubert's choice goes, why am I not surprised? But at least this time Brian sort of admits he was inspired by Yagudin's Gladiator which he says he adored.

    Such a shame he dumped the Inception, I really liked that program.
  35. Kelvster

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    ARGHHHH... It's such a beautiful programme. I re-watched it the other day and looks like Denkova/Staviyski really really put A LOT of effort on the transitions etc., It was a good, COP-friendly programme! I really wanted to see him skate the programme to its full potential...
  36. morqet

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    There was an article in L'Equipe which said that this "new" SP is just a stop gap until the actual new SP is ready.
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    ^Oh, I see, thanks for updating me.:)
  38. kirkbiggestfan

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    Joubert did not have the flu and skipped French Nationals to....work on a new LP. He won't skate to Inception anymore and will work on a Gladiator LP with Laurie May (P/B off-ice choreographer).
    I don't know if the flu thing was a cover-up by the Fed, but the relationship between Joubert and the French Fed seems to be rocky right now. Joubert wants to work with Guillon but Dumont wants to be the only coach.
    We always see complete 180 from Joubert during a season, so it's hard to predict the next move.
  39. MarieM

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    Good news. Candeloro began having his best results when his relationship with the FFSG was rocky. Let's hope it's gonna be the same for Brian. (one can hope right ?)
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    My understanding was that he did have the flu but it wasn't the only reason he skipped Nationals - basically that he might have tried to skate anyway were it not for the LP situation (sort of like 2008-9, I guess). But maybe I'm wrong. You're right that one never knows what exactly is going on with Joubert.

    I suppose that at this point in his career, he might as well do whatever he wants and enjoy skating, rather than trying to conform to the judging system or the FFSG's "suggestions".