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Discussion in 'Great Skate Debate' started by cholla, Oct 7, 2012.

  1. l'etoile

    l'etoile New Member

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    F/B's SD reminds me of Delsheos's OD in Vancouver! I love this quality of F/B:D One thing you can always rely on F/B with is that they keep making things interesting and original!
     
  2. Proustable

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    Heh. Fabian/Bourzat is indeed a charmer.
     
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  3. chantilly

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    Watching this SD compared to their FD feels like I am watching different skaters. It's fabulous. I wish Natalie had a bit more extension and flexibility in her kicks and legs but I'm being nit picky. It seems nobody is supportive of their FD this year. I think they should scrap it and start anew. I know it's risky but I think it needs to be done. Weaver and Poje have a pretty great and mature FD and it can challenge them. P and B are IMO better skaters still but that FD is just not good. If I were the, I would bring back Chaplin or do a blues number and try and keep as much of the Rolling Stones choreography as they can. This FD is beneath them and I think no where near as good as their last two programmes.
     
  4. casken

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    Once again I'm in opposite land, as I actually don't hate the FD completely, but I do find the SD disappointing. The slow can-can music for the Polka compulsory is just odd, and the way the music finally speeds up only to end a few seconds later is anti-climactic. Also, the moves at the end have no power or impact. Meh.

    I was expecting to despise the FD, but the first section is actually surprisingly good, as they move out with crispness and power and really seem into the music. The exit to the first rotational lift was as secure and snappy as I've seen them do, and the footwork sequences are incredibly fluid and smooth. It's just the rest of the program that isn't there yet. A music reedit is definitely needed.
     
  5. nuge

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    That first rotational is great and reminds me of a V/M lift :p
    Angie section is fab as I said before last section is poor but that could just have been because of the mistake and so lost the flow.
    I love the dance it's going to get better :kickass:

    Going back to an old programme say CC is a bad idea it was never .successful for skaters in the past eg D/V .
     
  6. shan

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    I thought the can-can part was weirdly slow and that the program ended abruptly too. But after I read the rave reviews, I figured I was crazy.
     
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  7. Cherub721

    Cherub721 YEAH!

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    Why is it that this never happens when people actually want it? Remember how everyone loved their Time FD originally, and then it was re-cut to add RFAD? :lol: I can think of examples like that, but none where people actually wanted the music re-cut and it was!
     
  8. briancoogaert

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    Please, don't remind me this awful part of figure skating history !
    I loved, really really loved their first programme to Time. Why did they recut it ???
     
  9. stejoho40

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    Oops...just saw the autocorrect mistake in my previous post. I meant who choreographed Brian's program?
     
  10. Nmsis

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    Denkova / Staviski if I'm not mistaken.
     
  11. Zemgirl

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    Because someone(s) in their federation had awful taste in music and choreo?

    DenStavs.
     
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPs8EsT_8YA

    Here is the FD practice of P&B, this is quite refreshing...
    After watching this, I think that we did not see the best side of this program at all, IMO you can see a lot more chemistry on this video, and you can see the ending which they missed...
    The program has some real potential...
     
  14. nuge

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    I agree looks great I love it !
     
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  17. Marta24

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    Thank you! I am glad they don't give up fighting for more. I know that a lot of people think that their time is over, but I believe that they can at least beat one of the Canton teams.They have wonderful skating skills and an unique look on the ice.
    Allez,Nathalie et Fabian!
     
  18. aka_gerbil

    aka_gerbil Rooting for the Underdogs

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    I'm also glad to see that fighting spirit. For the longest time, I've thought it was really V/M and P/B who were the two real best teams out there. V/M have my heart, but I'd love to see P/B move past D/W this year.
     
  19. Marta24

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    When I watched D/W's FD on TV,I also thought that they could be overtaken by P/B. P/B's SD is gorgeous and their FD, although they had a mistake, is so groovy.
     
  20. aka_gerbil

    aka_gerbil Rooting for the Underdogs

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    I think once V/M get their SD cleaned up and mileage on that FD, they're going to be in a league of their own. For my money though, I've long thought that P/B have far better skating skills than D/W, and, this year, they definitely by far have the best set of programs behind V/M. Actually, I love P/B's and V/M's SD's equally, and P/B's FD is, IMO, considerably better than D/W's, which I find to largely be a retread of S&D and POTO that's not very well constructed (3 lifts in a row?). The only thing I'm a little iffy on with P/B's FD is ending with "Start Me Up."

    It's been my dream for so long to see V/M and P/B go 1 and 2, and I'm hoping that maybe this season... *knock on wood* *turn, spit, curse*
     
  21. Marta24

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    And W/P as 3 :D (dreaming is always allowed)
     
  22. kirkbiggestfan

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    I am really curious to see how the judges will see them compared to the Russians and Canadians this week. That is a big first step to keep their current ranking in the world. At least, the controllers/tech specialists from GB, Italy and Hungary don't have a history of questionnable calls (or do they?)
    I wish that their Cancan used more spectacular Cancan tricks...but as a lot of French dancers, they are not flexible enough to master those tricks (If only they did more ballet in their younger years... like Zhulin suggested)
     
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  24. Eislauffan

    Eislauffan Well-Known Member

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    Tiffany Zahorski and Alexis Miart have split up. :-( I got a message from Tiffany. She is looking for a new partner. Please spread the word so that potential partners get the information. Thank you!
     
  25. Jeschke

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    so it´s finally official
     
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  26. IceIceBaby

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    Miart is not continuing? I really liked this pair and was hoping to see them in senior level one day... :(
     
  27. SkaterMate

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    The story goes that Miart suddenly stopped skating a couple of months ago without telling the coaches or Tiffany that he wasn't coming back.
    He'd got engaged in the summer and it seems to be the old story of romance getting in the way of skating.
    The last anyone has heard of him, is that he is working in a bar.. what a waste of talent....
     
  28. MysticHaze

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    Oh, wow I did not know that Alexis Miart was engaged! I wish he continued with the sport though, I really enjoyed his skating. I hope Tiffany is able to find a partner and compete again.
     
  29. Eislauffan

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    Olivier Schoenfelder told me in September that Alexis had stopped skating. The Federation apparently didn't want to announce the split officially (I think they usually never do that anyway). They also kept the team on the entry list for TEB for a while and when they were withdrawn, the official reason was injury (Miart). They probably still hoped to convince him to come back. Now I think Tiffany has given up that hope and therefore announced that she is in search of a partner. Best of luck to her!
     
  30. IceIceBaby

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    Wow, I hope Miart won't regret his decision in the future. But if he doesn't have the passion to the sport anymore it's understandable that he doesn't want to continue. I think Tiffany will someone else, soon.