Discussion in 'The Trash Can' started by lamarenee, Feb 5, 2012.
Seems like she has a good attitude. Her former coach makes it sound like the hype is actually helping her in some weird way.
Great article. I like her more and more. Her jump technique really is incredibly stunning. Let's hope she stays on this same path of progression. Mind you, ice is slippery so the best of luck to her.
Winning juniors two years before the Olympics means a spot on the team is "all but assured"??? Really??
Guess that's why Shelby Lyons did so well in Nagano, as well as Alexe Gilles in Vancouver.
There are no guarantees. I hope that Gracie, her family and coaches are more realistic than that writer!
No, that's not what the article says. The sentence reads (bolded part mine):
"If she continues to skate well, her place on the U.S. team at the 2014 Winter Olympics in Sochi, Russia, is all but assured."
Based on the article, they come across as realistic to me.
Why should they be? They may have been on this board and read the over the top hype about how we should have thrown Alissa and/or Ashley off the World Team and sent Gracie (who as far as I know has never even skated a Senior event, but... why let stop us)
FSU seems to think she's the next YuNa or Michelle! LOL!
No, only a few individual on FSU think so. I feel like I'm already sick of all the Gracie Gold hype. Remember what Peggy Fleming said of Tiffany Chin in 84? "We might be watching the Olympic Champion of 1988."
I know what you mean, butt......
Chin was spectacular in Sarajevo!
Soon after the gold rush started here I looked up a few youtubes of Gracie's "spectacular" skates and found them
I hope she keeps her jumps and improves greatly on everything else but most of all I hope she gets repackaged as everything from the dreadful costumes to that noise she calls "music" we're just awful IMO.
I hope she continues with the sports psychologist as it's like any type of training it needs to keep ongoing, especially with adolescent girls and all the life changes they are going through anyway..
then why did you come in here?
Oh, pardon me. I didn't realize this thread's sole purpose was for the continuation of the Gracie Gold hype. OK, carry on then.
Gracie Gold for the Oscar.
Gracie Gold for President.
Gracie Gold for Walmart Employee of the year.
Gracie Gold for the first female to walk on the moon.
Gracie Gold for brokering peace in the Middle East.
You left out Grammy, Emmy, Tony, and the Nobel.
I've found the people who endlessly complain that people are hyping Gracie to the high heavens far outweigh, and are far more obnoxious, than the few who actually do.
Not to mention they relentlessly attribute quotes or declarations about her future that no one has even said.
I hope she continues to do well. I'm ready for a new senior girl our present group are so mediocre.
That's because we need to be realistic.
If we had some world medallists in our top 3, it would be a different situation entirely.
We are sending to Worlds a girl who underrotates, flutzes, and double foots jumps as champion, and a girl whose head spins off into nowhere and falls all over the place about half the time as our silver medallist. We only have 2 slots.
A girl who can actually do all the triples short of the 3A is a phenomenon in the US these days.
Even the article linked in the OP is only hoping that Gracie can make the US team for Sochi.
Amen to that. The current crop of Seniors have had their day and haven't gotten it done. Alissa will be 25 this year do we really think she is the answer? I do want to see if Agnes improves though at least she does the difficult jumps that the older girls can't or won't even try to do.
All of these expectations this early for Gracie can't do anything but hurt her at this age. She is yet to compete at Senior Nationals and people are already saying she will win Olympic Gold. Calm down people.
We saw some very promising girls at Senior Nat's this year. Angela Wang, for one. And although they're not age eligible now, Nina Jiang and Leah Kaiser. We have yet to see what a healthy Yasmin Siraj or Kiri Baga could accomplish. Or Christina Gao with more consistency and personality. It doesn't have to be up to Gold alone to save US Ladiezz.
Can you provide a link to people saying she's going to win Olympic gold? I'd love to see this for myself.
Seems like there are more of these than actual Gracie ubers.
The title of the article for one.
I think she is a very nice skater. It was the Send her to worlds chant I found disturbing. Gee, she hasn't trained a Senior Program so let's send her unprepared. And that would do what????
Probably shatter her confidence, but ....... Long term vs short term. Giving her time to grow into a Senior will probably have better long term outcomes, but posters on here would be more then willing to see if we can screw that up
That's not someone posting here or anyone on her team saying it. It's some editor somewhere who knows squat about figure skating trying to come up with a catchy title.
Interesting article...but it's a bit too early to be hyping her for OGM. I do think (provided she stays healthy) she will have an impact on the US senior ladies field and will be a strong contender IF she shows improvement. Based on what I saw particularly in the exhibition, I saw a decent skater who hasn't quite figured out how to connect to the audience, but I didn't see a STAR. Her performance was not memorable to me- again, I feel as if people are telling me to take notice of her instead of allowing me to take notice of her for myself.
I would like to see her compete in at least a few senior level events before even talking about the Olympics. I have never seen a skater being hyped as much as Gracie is, at this stage of her career. May be because the USA has had a drought (sp?) of world championship contenders since 2006- after Sasha, Michelle and even Kimmie (she too was overhyped but at least she was competing at the senior level at that time).
When i meant Seniors i meant from the last Olympic cycle. I consider Wang, Keiser, and Jiang Juniors who skated as Seniors only at Nationals but who are part of the new wave of girls who will hopefully take over soon. When i meant the current crop i mean Mirai, Ashley, Alissa, Rachael and Caroline.
It's a good thing Gracie is already seeing a sports psychologist...
looking at the pics on her twitter, if i didn't know her age, i would swear she's 20-21.
If anyone would like to read the pre-2010 US Nationals local Springfield, IL feature article on a 14-year-old Gracie Gold (and 15-year-old McKinzie Daniels) by the same author who wrote the article linked in the first post of this thread, here's the link: http://www.sj-r.com/features/x17934...ard-work-behind-the-glamour-of-figure-skating
why not? if she needs extra-help in dealing with her competitions... and then, better sooner than later. even because, if she fails 2 or 3 competitions in the future people will start calling her "headcase" and "inconsistent". i'm not surprised that these kids want that kind of support at such tender age. a skater's life is probably much harder than we think.
btw, i'm a bit puzzled at all the advertising she/her team is making.
btw i read she's also a juggler. is there a footage of her juggling by chance? i'm curious.
I don't think she/her team is directly responsible for the "advertising" (i.e., 3 simultaneously active threads) on FSU?
ETA: There's a big difference between fan-driven hype on the Internet and media-generated hype. IMO, Gold has had, to date, by far more of the former here on FSU than the latter.
Peter Carruthers conducted a short interview with Gold the day after she won and asked her to juggle for him at the end. The video can be watched without an IceNetwork subscription in their video archive (scroll back through January 2012) - it's titled "AT&T ICE Desk - Gold."
tara sure was hyped as junior, and was expected to win everything. Instead she was 2nd at nats and 6th at worlds.
Her first year at nats, she had much less hype and won an almost surprise medal and trip to worlds. The next year she was almost lost in kwans shaddow, yet came from behind and won almost surprise and worlds.
Now hyped as kwan's equal, she all but imploded, skating poorly at SA, losing Lalique to Hubert, bombing the sp at nats and giving a so-so lp.
By olys she was back to underdog status which is where she really seemed to thrive, when all the pressure was off and people were counting her out,that's when she usually delivered.
How, exactly, do you know she hasn't trained one?
According to Jayar, whom I regard as a reliable source:
Not sure how I rated a , but that's ok.
Our recollections of Tara seem very inconsistent with each other respect to her "imploding" -- she had a very high percentage of times when she delivered perfect 7-for-7 triple jump programs.
More importantly, my point is that Tara was very much hyped when she was a junior to be the next Olympic Champion, and she did indeed accomplish that very lofty and rare goal. So, yes, it's quite possible to be hyped as the next Olympic Champion while still a junior and successfully handle that type of pressure.
The first year I remember Tara at Nationals it was 1995 in Providence, and she was a new Junior. Her publicist was working full time, and you would have thought from the newspapers and everything else that she was going to wipe the rink with the other juniors. Instead she totally bombed and was beaten by Sydne Vogel of Alaska.
After that, AFAIR, she responded very nicely to pressure.
Yeah I have that tape and she didn't implode. She made some errors, but it certainly wasn't imploding. Plus she had the flu even though she didn't use that as an excuse. If Gracie handles pressure like Tara she will definitely be successful.
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