New GBR pair: Caitlin Yankowskas & Hamish Gaman

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  1. Sylvia

    Sylvia Whee, summer club comps!

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    I thought I would start a new thread for this news now that this new team is listed to make their international debut at Ice Challenge in Graz, Austria next month.

    Re-posting from the Yankowskas partner search thread:
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  2. Ziggy

    Ziggy Well-Known Member

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  3. clairecloutier

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    I am glad Caitlin has a new partner. But, as an American pairs fan, I'm sad it's not a U.S. partner. She was one of our greatest talents, so to see her go to another country is disappointing. But I certainly understand it, she can't wait forever for a good U.S. partner to come along. I hope this partnership works out for her. I think his age is not ideal. Assuming they stay together, it will take them several years to get up to speed. That would make him 32 at least before they could even start to be competitive. But I wish them the best of luck and hope it works out for her. I am a huge fan of Caitlin!
  4. Skittl1321

    Skittl1321 Well-Known Member

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    Does this mean Caitlin has been released by the US? Or is that only needed for Championship level competitions?
  5. Wyliefan

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    Glad she found a partner! I hope it goes well.
  6. Sylvia

    Sylvia Whee, summer club comps!

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    She was released by USFS earlier this summer, from what I heard.

    Re-posting from the Ice Challenge thread in Kiss and Cry:
    Video description reads: "Bridget Namiotka and Hamish Gaman 2008 show (after skating together a couple months)"
  7. Catherine M

    Catherine M Well-Known Member

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    I'm glad the USFS has released Caitlin and she can concentrate on her new partnership with Hamish.

    Best of luck to them both and looking forward to seeing how they do at Ice Challenge.
  8. maureenfarone

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    Any idea where they are training? She was with Johnny Johns in Michigan when she skated with Joshua Reagan.

    Wishing them the best!
  9. Spiralgraph

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    I'm disappointed Caitlin couldn't find a partner in the USA, but I'm happy for her that she has found a partner and will be competing soon for GB. I'll be rooting for her.
  10. Ziggy

    Ziggy Well-Known Member

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    A release is needed if you want to represent another country internationally.
  11. OnyxRose81

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    I'm glad she found a partner but it is rather disappointing that she couldn't find one in the U.S.
  12. Ziggy

    Ziggy Well-Known Member

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    If she had found an American partner, it wouldn't have been very likely for her to be able to compete internationally again given the level of US Pairs at the moment.
  13. Jammers

    Jammers Well-Known Member

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    But why pick a partner who's already 30? He can't have many good years left.
  14. Ziggy

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    She's 160cm tall, if her ISU bio is correct, so she's not exactly spoiled for choice.
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    I think she's still in Michigan. My friend and I stopped by Canton before our flight out of Detroit after SA so she could check out the facilities, and she said she saw Caitlin there training with "a super tall guy."
  16. LilJen

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    Good luck to them!! Interestingly enough, John Coughlin skated with Bridget Namiotka before skating with Caitlin. Partner-go-round!!
  17. skatefan

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    And Hamish is a big, tall guy :)
  18. GarrAarghHrumph

    GarrAarghHrumph I can kill you with my brain

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    Wow. I understand the height issue, of course; but he's 30 and no longer training... But I get it. If she's had great difficulty finding a partner, why not? I hope this works out for the both of them.
  19. Skittl1321

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    I'm guessing she is looking for 4 years.
  20. Cherub721

    Cherub721 YEAH!

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    So he's older and coming out of coaching to skate with her... it's her Stanislav Morozov, except Morozov was around 25 when he started skating with Volosozhar. I wish Caitlin the best of luck. If all they want is to go to the 2018 Olympics and she can get citizenship, that sounds realistic, but if they want international medals, it'll be a tough road starting out at this age... can anyone give some insight on Gaman? Was he considered the stronger or weaker partner in his pairings, what jumps did he have, was he consistent, was he a good lifter, etc?
  21. museksk8r

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    Depends on how he has been taking care of himself. There are some people in their 30s, 40s, and 50s who take better care of themselves and are in much better shape than some teens and 20 somethings. Hamish has been out of commission for 9 years in terms of ISU level competition. It appears he has only done exhibition skating publicly during the time he has been away from competition. It's not like he's been taking countless years of abuse on his body and living through all the rigorous training in practice and massive stress in ISU senior level competition a la John Baldwin Jr. I'm not saying it won't be difficult for them to adjust, but I don't believe it is impossible for them either. It's possible too that they just want to have the experience together and not necessarily the results. Who really knows what their intentions and goals are?
  22. Ziggy

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    I don't think Yankowskas has any realistic chances of obtaining British citizenship in 4 years, especially considering they train in the US.
  23. skatefan

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    Caitlin would need to be here full time for five years before being able to apply for British citizenship under current rules.
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    This video of him skating solo appears to have been filmed in 2008: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUVafQb4F9w

    He has a very strong build and presence on the ice, which appears to be very accommodating for pairs skating and he has a very solid, reliable 2Axel in this video and he performs a nice, clean 3toe too.

    This video shows him skating in a show with Bridget Namiotka: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhbfXtSYEvI
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  25. casken

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    Or just someone to get her back into international competitions and improve her visibility to make her permanent partner search easier. This guy could be a placeholder.
  26. Sylvia

    Sylvia Whee, summer club comps!

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    I assume Kemp/King are retiring after this season, so there will be opportunities for Yankowskas/Haman to compete at Europeans/Worlds if all goes well for them. :cool:
  27. julieann

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    Does everyone need to go to the Olympics? Some people just want to skate and don't need that 'once every four year competition' to make their career.

    I also don't understand why people think because a skater turns a certain age they must retire from competitive skating. Just because a make pairs skater is 30 or 35 doesn't mean they can't/shouldn't compete if they want to.

    I wish them both good luck and hope they are successful!
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  28. morqet

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    I'm not sure Kemp/King are planning to retire, but Yankowskas/Haman could even go to Europeans this year, GB has two spots - the other competition would come from Amani Fancy/Christopher Boyadji, but I think they don't yet have the FS TES for Europeans.

    Side note: If all these teams turn up at British nationals this year, it will be the first time since 1999 that there have been more than 2 senior pairs entered!
  29. Skittl1321

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    No, but I think she's said before that it is one of her goals.
  30. Vagabond

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    I doubt that Caitlin Yankowskas is seriously entertaining the thought of representing Great Britain in Pyeongchang. She'd need to move to the U.K. and marry or have civil partnership with a British citizen.

    http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/britishcitizenship/eligibility/

    On the other hand, skating with Gaman will keep her busy and at least let her compete at British Nationals this season. After Sochi and Worlds, there may be some splits that will give her opportunities she doesn't have now.
  31. zaphyre14

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    She 23 herself. That's not exactly Spring Chicken Time for a pairs girl.

    That said, I'm happy she's found a partner and hope she's happy skating again.
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    Could she not also qualify if one of her parents is British? Does anyone know if she is of British ancestry?
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    Could she not also qualify if one of her parents is British? Does anyone know if she is of British ancestry?
  34. Wyliefan

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    Tell it to the Protopopovs. :)
  35. Vash01

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    I am glad that Yankowcas finally found a partner, but I am a little sad that she will skate for another country. In any case, good luck to the new pair.
  36. Skittl1321

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    I was actually surprised recently how old some of the pairs girls are. Volosozhar is 27, Savchenko is 29, Kavaguti is 31 (though she has some major injury issues- but they aren't out this season on her injuries.), Duhamel is 27.
  37. skatefan

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    If one of her parents is British, she could apply but if the citizenship is via a grandparent then no.
  38. genevieve

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    I am thrilled for Yankowskas, and am just glad she got a release to skate for another country. Looking forward to seeing this pairing, and I hope it's more successful than Samuelson/Gilles (yes, I know that's ice dance not pairs, but it was another case of a super talented woman partnering up with someone who'd been out of competition for a while...and I was crushed that it didn't last).
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    I have no reason to think she is British, but could her parents apply through the grandparents, and then she could get it through them? Wonder if that takes more than 4 years to get all the paperwork through :)
  40. miffy

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    IIRC (& this is going back a bit!) he had 3toe, 3loop, 3sal. I might be wrong but he had at least 2 consistent triples anyway.

    He had unfortunate luck with some of his partnerships and was often listed for Nationals but didn't make it. He did make it to Euros one year, when he & Becky were Junior Champions but they couldn't compete due to illness :(