Discussion in 'Off The Beaten Track' started by rfisher, May 14, 2013.
Thanks, I will give it a shot.
I'm not sure language is the issue -- I was actually surprised at how well the humour translated (since that is very frequently not the case).
It made a few bestseller lists in English too, though, so not surprising it would be a superbestseller in Sweden.
Have you ever read any Wallace Stegner? Just wondering.
No, do you think I should? The Spectator Bird sounds like something I may like.
Maybe that one; it's a shorter one. Possibly Angle of Repose - his pulitzer prize winning novel. I just mention him because I think he is a fine writer. I met him once at a booksellers meeting. He was one of those people who made me feel like a life-long friend even though we had just met. I thought him an impressive man.
I'm not sure I would recommend spending a lot of money on one of his books - try the library or a thrift store until you know if you like his style.
Thank you! Will check him out. His work sounds like something I may like. So glad you got to meet him in person--so much fun! I met John Fowles at a book signing, years ago. He was in total no pryde but congenial nonetheless and signed my book with a cute line.
Does anyone watch Justified?
My husband and I are hooked on the show, so I decided to read the Elmore Leonard books about Raylan Givens even though I really don't like Elmore Leonard. If you don't know the background, Raylan Givens was a minor character in a couple of Elmore Leonoard books and then was featured in a novella and a couple of short stories. One of those short stories ("Fire in the Hole") was turned into the pilot episode of the show, although it was given a different ending. The scriptwriters, with input from Elmore Leonard, then created a whole new storyline for Raylan, and Elmore Leonard later wrote a novel about Raylan, using characters and storylines from the show, even though some of it conflicted a lot with the stories he had already written about Raylan. This is considered really unprecedented in TV/novel marriages, because usually books are usually developed separately from the show and go off in different directions unless the books are entirely based on the scripts. One of the books in which Raylan was a minor character was Out of Sight, which was first a movie and later a short-lived series; the star of the series appeared on a episode of Justified as the character from Out of Sight at one point and there were references to things that happened in the book and the OoS series. I have read a lot of articles about what this all meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeans in terms of multimedia productions, but that is neither here nor there.
I am reading Elmore Leonard Raylan Givens 3-Book Collection: Pronto, Riding the Rap, Fire in the Hole, all of which were written before the show, and the timeline is driving me crazy. In the first story, Raylan describes his background as a coal miner who worked every kind of mine there was in Harlan County, Kentucky and sat out one entire year on strike until his daddy died of black lung disease and his mama moved the family to Detroit, where he went to Wayne State University and then joined the US Marshall service. Only in another section of the book, he talks about being a weapons instructor in the Marines. So what, did he start working in the mines when he was 12? When did he go into the Marines and how long was he in that he was a weapons instructor, which is a job one generally gets at the end, not beginning, of a career?
But what has really annoyed me is that in the first story, he is in the process of divorcing Winona, who has taken up with their realtor (just like the show) in Georgia (not like the show) and says he doesn't miss her at all (definitely not like the show) but he does miss his kids terribly. He has two sons (absolutely not in the show), Ricky and Randy, who are six and two, respectively. At the end of the story, he is living with a former stripper. Okay. In the next story, he and the former stripper have been together a year and he mentions going to Georgia to see his sons Ricky and Randy, who are now 10 and six. Now I know they grow up fast, but really.
One of the things that has really bugged me on the show (this will make no sense if you don't watch) is that Raylan told Ava that he met Winona in Utah when he was on the job and as soon as he heard her accent, he knew she was a Kentucky girl. The storyline on the show and in the books was that Raylan was a firearms instructor in Glyncoe, GA for several years when he was re-assigned to Miami; he left Winona behind to sell their house and she left him for the realtor. On the show, however, the house is Frankfort, KY, so when Raylan makes a mess in Miami and is sent to Kentucky as punishment, Winona and her new husband (but no kids) are there. Only people keep talking about how Raylan hasn't set foot in Kentucky since he blew out of the place to go to college, so how did Winona end up in a house in Kentucky?
Don't mind me; I just wanted to vent.
I too am hooked and don't mind the inconsistencies because I get to drool over Tim Olyphant each week. And, Winona is forgettable unlike Ava. I'm also so glad they kept Boyd Crowder because I also drool over Walton Goggins who is a fantastic actor. They film part of the opening credit on the Kentucky River bridge on the Parkway just outside Versailles, KY. I think of Raylan every time I go home.
I just finished Linda Fairstein's latest and started Kathy Reich's. Fairstein's was one of her better books (Central Park is the history lesson this time) and Reich's is awful. In fact, I may have to pull a Prancer and not read any more of her books. Which makes me sad as I used her early books when I taught biological anthropology as a good way to demonstrate forensic anthropology. Kathy really needs to go back to her roots. She's turned Tempe into superwoman who solves all the crimes single handedly. Which I wouldn't mind if she did it with forensic anthropology, but she doesn't. It's just stupid now. She's also forgotten the mystery rule of show don't tell. And the triangle between she, Ryan and Pete is stupid and been done to death by others (looking at you Evanovich).
But, the new Reacher is out tomorrow.
I KNOW! The whole Winona thing was Tim Olyphant's idea and everyone went with it because Elmore Leonard thought that Tim just totally nails Raylan Givens .
But I like Ava with Boyd. Boyd is my favorite character. He isn't nearly as pretty as Raylan, but he's more interesting.
I recognized it as soon as I saw it .
The Winona thing aside, the show has been pretty accurate--well, after the first season, anyway--except for how often Raylan runs down to Harlan County like it's right next door.
You will have to post a review for us. I am still in protest mode.
The reviews for the new Reacher say it's one of his best. And, there's a potential daughter! Can you imagine Reacher with a kid? I'll be downloading it in the morning.
I just finished the book "Night Film" by Marisha Pessi. It was way outside my usual choices as it is kind of a mystery/horror novel but it got
such great reviews that I was intrigued. Apparently, this is the second book she has written with her first one a bestseller and then a seven year gap. I have to say I really enjoyed it - it is long - but never a dull moment and full of twists and turns. I am also looking forward to the new Reacher book - he is like an old friend to me. The book is released two days before my birthday - so happy birthday me.
I read her first book and liked it, so I'm glad to hear that this one is also good. I will have to look for it .
I'm reading Night Film right now. A visit from a friend and a bad virus have done a number on me on the last few days, but I should be done with it soon
Read Fellow Mortals yesterday. Mailman tosses a match he thinks is out and 1 woman dies, 2 homes destroyed, and many lives changed. He is found not guilty but guilt leads him to offer help to everyone affected - the story follows all of their responses to his offers. It was a good read. I like a book that doesn't give tidy endings. I wound up yelling at the book a few times, and crying in spots.
Blood & Beauty has lost me. Too much focus on which Borgia thought what to keep me interested. Juan got killed and I yawned. I might not finish it before it's due back. I was hoping for a Borgia history, not a bunch of pages about Rodrigo's nose and Lucrezia's pining for 'tru wuv'.
Lots of Kindle price drops this weekend, the Game of Thrones 4 book deal was under $16.00, I snapped that up. Great price, no hernia.
Next up is Madame Tussaud. Looked interesting. The 'good' library has The White Princess waiting.
I'm in the middle of reading it (40% according to my Kobo app ) and I already don't like Ernest so I can only imagine how much I will hate him by the end. I'm actually dreading the next chapter a little bit since the one I just finished is where
the manuscripts were stolen on the train and according to her Wikipedia entry, he was super pissed and blamed her for it.
Maybe that's why I'm having so much trouble getting through it because it really shouldn't be a difficult read.
Erin, neither of them come off well in the book. He seemed to tire of her and she couldn't keep up with him on a literary level. The book reminded me of the women who put their husbands through college and then the guy dumps her. By the end of the book, everyone's actions were just bizarre.
I hate Amazon.com sellers right now. Today I finally got a book from a seller in Germany that I'd ordered a couple of months and they sent me something else entirely. There is just no way in hell I am ever going to read Turkey's Christian Minorities in the Paris Peace Treaties (1919-1923). And yes, it's in German. In a large print edition to boot. Now I have to send the damned thing back to some 'burb outside of Berlin, and that won't be cheap. Here I was all psyched about finally getting my hands on that Obsuropean novel I'd been looking for since Gods knows when. Danke sehr, Amazon seller.
On the plus side, I restarted The Vicar's Daughter, a VMC by E. H. Young which I'd started back in spring but set aside for some reason. Possibly because the main character is someone you can't help feeling sorry for, but, at the same time, can't help disliking. Young does the reverse with the female protagonist, who's kind of a bitch, but you somehow don't hate her. This is the third novel by E. H. Young that I've read, and I'm glad that I gave it another shot, because I really enjoyed the first two (The Misses Mallett and William). Whether she's setting a scene, revealing yet another layer of a character, or pinpointing the dynamics of a relationship, she tells you what you need to know but keeps her opinions out of it. If there's any philosophizing, it's because one of the characters is that kind of person, and whether or not those opinions coincide with Young's is anyone's guess. All of which I like in a writer.
Sorry to hear that, Nomad. Right now I am awaiting a shipment from Germany as well and it's been 9 days, should I be worried?
International shipping from an Amazon vendor can take up to 6 weeks before it's late. No, you shouldn't be worried - unless you haven't received a notice that the item has been shipped. It just takes a while. Also, it depends on the country. My shipments to Australia arrive faster than the ones to Canada.
That said, does the vendor have a high approval rating? It does make a difference.
^My apologies, I was confusing book orders. This was actually an Abebooks f*ck-up, not Amazon. I went on a book binge a few weeks ago and just lost track of what I'd ordered from whom, and Turkey's Minorities.... arrived without a packing slip, so I just assumed that it was an Amazon order. I did not intend to slander anyone.
Likewise, I didn't mean to implicate amazon. They are usually good, including their sellers. It was a music exchange website. Whew, Jeff Bezos can sleep better now.
Funny, I just finished Sharp Objects, also by Gillian Flynn. That was one book where I felt I needed brain bleach after reading it.
I'm now reading The Broken Seal by Ladislas Farago. It details the American and Japanese code-breaking operations between 1921 and 1941, and was one of the books used as a basis for the movie Tora! Tora! Tora!. My father, who was involved with cryptographics during his Army service 50 years ago (this, and WWII are two pet subjects of his), recommended I read it. I thought it would be very dry going, but I'm finding it to be very interesting reading.
I'm halfway through Lee Child's new Reacher novel and so far it's one of the best he's written in a very long time. I've actually laughed outloud several times and not because Child is being ridiculous. I already feel sorry for Reacher as you know it's not going to end well with Maj. Turner who he's been trying to get to DC to see for 3 books in a row. She's a tiny female Reacher in so many ways. He's in lurve and, well if you read the Reacher books, we all know how that's going to end. And, he's back in the Army. I won't spoil how that came about. And, he may or may not have a kid! Imaging a 14 yo female Reacher kidlet! But, that may or may not be true, although, he sort of wants it to be. Another clue this is going to make me cry at the end. I've never felt sorry for him before because he's always done what he wants (or envys the howling wolf---a referece in the book). I'll finish it tonight.
I'm on to your game, rfisher. You're just saying all this to torment me.
I actually read a fairly new book last week. A Hundred Summers by Beatriz Williams. It was an Amazon Daily Deal for Kindle. I wish I had not wasted that $2.99.
It attempts to be a historical fiction but is bogged down with a preposterous plot, badly done jumping between two periods of the characters' lives, and a whole cast of basically unlikable characters. The main character comes off as dumber than dumb--not being able to put perfectly simple things together or understand the dynamics of her own life and family. The character who turns out to be the key to everyone's problems is a background figure and Williams even forgets to tell us her fate at the end, you have to assume what happened to her. And the romantic hero is terribly bland and it is hard to figure out why, presumably, two characters want him so badly. And, finally, I would add, that if you are going to write about baseball, even tangentially, you should do at least five minutes of research first. At least then, you might find out that no player in 1938 would be talking about the upcoming playoffs as he would be anticipating them 31 years early.
Now I am in the middle of Inside Scientology by Janet Reiman via the library. Moved from bad fiction to an expose of religion based on bad fiction. It is fairly engaging and quite appalling.
You know you want to know about miniReacher and femaleReacher. She even has a collapsible toothbrush.
It took me 2 weeks to read 52 pages of "Inferno" and 1 second to say "**** this ****" So , like, I don't recommend it.
I just finished Peeps, which is about *cough* sort of zombies, sort of vampires, but not really.
I liked it. Cats are also featured prominently.
That reminds me--I read a piece today about how none of us should lecture for more than five minutes because more lecture than that isn't engaging for those who don't like lecture; the students who are willing to sit through a long lecture will be fine no matter what we do.
As soon as I read it, I thought of you . If I can find the link, I will send it to you by PM, because I think you MUST read it .
What am I supposed to do with freshmen for the other 45 minutes?
Show them your Snoopy.
I PMd you, too. Enjoy
they already saw it.
Just found out Peeps has a sequel! More vampire (sort of)/zombies (sort of) and cats!
Kindle singles and the future of publishing: http://ht.ly/oBrZD
I post this because some here have talked about how certain books are too long and need editing, and the article shed some light on why that might be so.
Also, there is now a NetFlix for e-readers named Oyster: http://mashable.com/2013/09/05/oyster-launch/
I might actually go for it if more publishers were involved.
This is a couple of years old now but I only just now found it. Very cute.
It's a book.
Very interesting, thanks for posting!
(Though personally I find "bookeen" awkward and a bit weird looking. I'd be more in favour of "bookette.")
Prancer, I neeeeeeeed you to read the new Reacher so I can bitch about how much I hate Lee Childs at the moment.
And, PL, there's a new Pendergast coming and you'd better not get another advanced copy.
Oh em gee. Just finished this one. At first, I didn't like it as much as I expected - the characters seemed too contrived (Nora) or too perfect (Ashley) but the last third of the book was incredible and mind blowing and I didn't see things coming at all. It went in a completely different direction than I expected. Really, really enjoyed it.
I thought the same thing.
Dear me, Lee Child has let you down, has he? Well, I will let you know when I get the book from the library. It shouldn't be too long; there are only four people ahead of me and the library has 26 copies.
He made Reacher human rather than the robot machine of the last 5 or so books then he crushed us. I hate him.
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