Oh, sorry, guess I'll just go sit on my arse for most of the week and my loop jump will magically appear all by itself, right? My problem with your coffee skate attitude is that you imply adult skaters should not bother skating more than twice a week, that we shouldn't work hard at our skating, that we shouldn't bother with private lessons. I am not going to be told what to do by you or by anyone. I skate four days a week, I have a half-hour private lesson each week, and I don't care if you think that's a waste of time, because it's not for me. I don't care if you think that adult skating should just be a "social" thing, I will continue to compete.