Discussion in 'TV ALERTS' started by HisWeirness, Oct 13, 2010.
Commercial? Is NBC actually PROMOTING this coverage??
Pleased not to have to hear constipated Scott. and his never ending comments on the “new”scoring system.
It's during the coverage of Gymnastics worlds. I assume they figure the audience is the same. They even show the same amount of sad animal commercials.
Ok, I see. Yes, that makes sense then.
OT, but I didn't even realize I hit 2K posts. ha
I think it would be a great idea to televise a 30 minute snippet on how the scoring system works during a major competition, maybe worlds. They could explain the concept of the base value, GOE, underrotations and downgrades, etc. They really do not need to go into higher level details...the general public doesn't need to know that holding a spin for eight revolutions increases the level or that one has to do so many different types of turns in the footwork. They just need to understand the basic foundations of the IJS to engage interest and avoid what might be seen as a "shocking" or "unfair" result because of lack of knowledge of the system. I also think it would be useful to put each skater's protocol information on the screen after their scores come up. Then the audience would be able to see exactly what happened.
30 MINUTES?? Who would sit through that, besides hardcore skate fans? The network needs to come up with a way to explain the BASIC nuances of the Cop (save the details for the broadcast) to the lay public. This probably shouldn't take more than about 5-7 minutes, otherwise people will tune out. Attention spans are short in these parts...
ETA: I think getting someone like Tara Lipinski in the booth is a step in the right direction, though. I feel with some practice on her part, the audience can learn the system WITH her as they watch the skaters. And that is the best case scenario.
Can we pleeeeeease ditch Carruthers?? His idea of a good time is to compare a 19-yr-old rookie to 4-time World Champ Kurt Browning and point out that the kid isn't like him. Well, duh! It was so rude. If Peter wanted to mention Kurt, a better way would've been: Miner is skating to Casablanca, music that was an iconic program for Browning and figure skating in general. And if Andrea then said: Do you think Miner's watched Kurt's program? Answer: Yes! Everyone in skating has seen that magnificent program! But, PC did it in a rude way, imo.
Perhaps you're right. I think 10 minutes sounds reasonable...they could easily do it before the event starts instead of their usual fluff pieces. Clear, concise, and informative.
But I still want to know WTF NBC thinks might happen during the competition that would result in it being "the last".
It's rather odd for them to say that. Maybe meaning that they might not qualify for the final? Or, perhaps, the sport is so dangerous they might critically injure themselves and be forced into retirement? I have no clue.
Thank goodness Sandra Bezic is not on the team. Somehow Scott & Sandra make each other even worse. Tracy Wilson should temper Scott somewhat.
Glad to see Terry Gannon back! A breath of fresh air...he's articulate, does his homework and does not chatter over the skaters programs. Weiss...hmmmmmm, will have to wait and see on that one. How well does he know COP? Tara....still needs some work, but getting better.
Exactly. As they say, "Too many kooks spoil the broadcast."
Weiss Tweeted this earlier today:
Mike must be a quick learner. Even after several years, many commentators never come to that realization.
He may know the theory, but he hasn't learned how to put it into practice. I've already had enough of him to last me the entire season. He talks too much. I don't need to hear him talk about his great triumph over his stitches or his marriage. And we heard him yammer incessantly about the quad when he kept trying to land it himself. He seems determined to continue in that vein during commentary. During the short program, he didn't talk about any of the other rules or even any of the other rule changes. I never thought I'd say this, but I'd prefer to have Scott commentate. Can't they bring back Paul Wylie?
Michael Weiss was mainlining during the commentary??? That would be a first.
Did he decide to leave on his own?
I hope Tara becomes the new face of skating commentary. She's simply a natural IMO.
I just listened to her commentary of Alissa Czisny's SP at Skate Canada, and it was informative and wonderfully articulate.
She gave an objective (but kind) analysis of the skaters' strengths and weaknesses, as well as technical insight when necessary regarding spins/jumps/etc., not to mention relative background tidbits on the skater to familiarize them to the audience watching at home--all the while without being an intrusive distraction on the performance.
I must say, however, it was quite a trip hearing Terry and Tara in the booth together. I can't believe the little girl he used to commentate on back in the late 90s is now sitting with him doing the same thing. Time just flies.
I don't know.
I thought Tara was informative, but talked a little too much and too fast. Maybe it was because she was so excited about the skating. I remember her being better last season. so hopefully she'll be even better as the season goes on. And, yeah, Terry must have thought it was weird that this girl he used to comment on is now all grown up and in the booth with him.
I've really liked Tanith as a commentator this time around.
She has some interesting things to say and was very informative.
I love Terry. And I enjoyed watching Terry and Tanith working the Short Dance. Tanith is a natural. The two of them cover a lot of ground when they do intro fluff segments.
I hope Terry is getting a huge charge out of working with the new wave of skating commentators. Finally, the questions he asks are being answered by people who competed in the current era...not thirty years or more ago. I bet he enjoys interacting with a crowd that has some new thoughts on the world of figure skating.
I loved that Terry said he doesn't get to say "control your own destiny" anymore!
It's fun when Mike Weiss talks about his experience in a competition from 2000, and Terry actually remembers calling it. I enjoy the rapport Terry has with the newew commentators. If they added Johnny for color commentary, it would be perfect.
I agree with those that are loving Terry, Tara and Tanith! Way better than Scotty, Tom and Sandra!
Paul Wylie is in charge of Nationals this year. I'm guessing he has a lot on his plate and we won't see him as a commentator this year.
I prefer commentators that-
- Know the rules
- Can speak to the rules
- Do their homework
- Talk about the skaters on the ice and not those coming up later.
- DO NOT talk about themselves - except on rare occasions. This was/is one of Dick Button's strengths. He rarely spoke/speaks about himself and his accomplishments. He left that to others and when he was praised, he quickly deferred the attention to others or to the subject at hand.
- Speak English well enough that they can find appropriate adjectives that apply to the individual skater and not use the same trite phrases (all-around skater) over and over again. Most commentators need a thesaurus.
- Can teach me about skating and tell me something I don't know.
- Don't ALWAYS complain about the judging (we all complain sometimes, but it shouldn't be a constant).
I like hearing Terry again. His knowledge and respect of skating and skaters are obvious and appreciated.
I have to disagree with this. Dick talked about himself a lot. In fact he is the only person I have ever heard who used the term "Button camel" to refer to a particular variation of the camel spin.
Overall, I like Tanith, Michael, and Tara a lot. I think they are all doing a nice job.
Having just watched the SC coverage I will say that the current line-up of former skaters turned commentators really only talks about themselves when Terry prompts them for the skater's perspective on things, i.e. "You're in the K&C after a performance like that, what are you thinking?"
So far I am loving Tanith and Tara. They seem to know intuitively when to talk and when to stay quiet. Tanith especially has surprised me with how well she anticipates what items need explaining and how to correct herself when she makes an error. I'm impressed. For someone who just retired a few months ago, she has the makings of a good commentator.
Michael still talks a bit too much for my taste and I personally wish he would shut up about the quad.
Terry is made of awesome. His voice alone comforts me. Hearing his voice over skating just makes everything better.
I'm so annoyed that I'll have to miss most of the NBC ladies broadcast because of football! I want to hear Terry! But since the ladies happened last week and wasn't very good and the football is happening today and probably will be very good, it's really the only choice.
^ Not sure if this helps but they should be repeating today's NBC show of NHK Ladies FS on Universal Sports TV at 9pm Eastern today.
They will also show it on Wednesday and Thursday.
I don't get universal sports.