Nashville - Season One (Wednesdays, 10pm on ABC)

Discussion in 'Off The Beaten Track' started by PeterG, Nov 15, 2012.

  1. genevieve

    genevieve drinky typo pbp, closet hugger Staff Member

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    Inclusion of that song is one of the reasons I'm considering buying my first tv show soundtrack. Those girls' voices are fantastic!

    Perhaps RoF's title is changed because they veered too far from the original melody. I didn't hate Scarlett's version as much as many on the internet seem to, but I also don't think it's super duper amazeballs. Nor did she sound drunk and liberated as the storyline made it out to be (overcoming her fears of singing onstage etc, blah blah). And I kinda wish they'd taken more time for Gunnar to realize what we all knew from day 1 - that he luuuuuurves Scarlett. I liked his record label babe :(
     
  2. Wyliefan

    Wyliefan Well-Known Member

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    They really are. :) I just wish they were singing something else.
     
  3. Jenny

    Jenny From the Bloc

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    So I panicked that my order through amazon.ca might be delayed, and dispatched hubby to pick up a copy on his lunch hour. He scored - and says there are *four* bonus tracks! Can't wait!!
     
  4. HeatherC

    HeatherC Go Team SW Florida! =)

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    I gotta get the soundtrack this week but I may not be able to until Thursday night. Please let us know here how you liked it if any of you guys get to listen to it this week!! :D

    BTW-I got a tweet from Chip (er, Charles ;)) Estin not too long ago when he was trying to figure out a name for his fans. :D He liked my suggestion, The Chippettes, and told me so in a tweet. He seems like a really nice and genuine guy. :) I was so tickled to hear from him although he also said he'd probably need something else for the guys! I think Chippers was one suggestion I saw but I can't remember which one he liked best. There were a lot flying around for a while, LOL :lol:
     
  5. Wyliefan

    Wyliefan Well-Known Member

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    Chipmunks, of course! ;)

    I did end up getting the CD when I was out tonight, and I like it a lot so far. Listened to about half the songs.
     
  6. Jenny

    Jenny From the Bloc

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    Loving the CD!! Favourites so far are Wrong Song, Juliette's version of Telescope, and Rayna and Deacon's No One Will Ever Love You. They've messed with the latter a bit - it's more produced than the raw version on the show - but I like it. Thought it would be Scarlett and Gunner's duets that would be my faves because they are so beautiful on the show, but with adding musicians and mixing I think they've lost some of their sweet appeal - but still love them! Surprised they open the CD with Rayna's Buried Under, probably her weakest performance IMO, while Changing Ground is a bonus track and should likely have been part of the main mix.

    And here's a good sign: the CD is labeled Season 1, Volume 1, so maybe we can look forward to another CD at the end of this season :)

    Yes yes I realize I could be downloading all this (although the price of the CD was probably less that the sum of all the songs), but I'm old school and still like to put on a CD. I'll choose my favourites to add to my iPod for mixes. :)
     
  7. manhn

    manhn Well-Known Member

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    Finally watched all the episodes that had been laying dormant in my PVR. Quick thoughts:

    1. I didn't decipher one lyric from Rayna and Juliette's duet (the sound mixing was quite awful), but I loved seeing those two working together.

    2. The shot of Juliette being mauled by the zoo animal *was* adorable. Tim Tebow (or whatever his actual name is) is also adorable but what in the world is with his tattoos? They are freakin' hoooge! I'm surprised an actor (an unestablished one at that) would put something so permanent on his body. Does he not want to do any period pieces that may involve his character rolling up his sleeves every once in a while?

    I hope Tim Tebow doesn't lose his flower just before Juliette breaks his heart, but of course he will.

    3. Rayna's father is still the worst actor in existence. Maybe history. Would those photos do any damages at all? As someone who likes celeb gossip, I would need something a lot more graphic. These were extremely tame. Nashville is a major city--would its residents really care about something like an affair? I love Kimberly Williams-Paisley. I hope she's still alive and we see her husband...played by David Conrad!!!

    4. I still don't know why Juliette hates Rayna so. much. Rayna doesn't like Juliette either but it never seems all that personal.

    5. If I were that manager/cougar, I would be all over Avery's bandmate instead. Avery is gross who needs to bathe.

    Anyways, I'm back for the rest of the season at least. I like Rayna's new producer. I like the group of guys Deacon will be playing with. I like Tim Tebow's family. They're expanding the universe in a pleasing manner.
     
  8. Wyliefan

    Wyliefan Well-Known Member

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    A couple of reasons. Number one, remember she heard Rayna say she sang like a feral cat. :) Number two, Deacon chose Rayna over her to sing with him at the Blue Bird -- we saw how much that rankled. She was still sore over it a couple of episodes later, IIRC. And I think she knows Deacon still has a thing for Rayna, and that rankles a little too.

    But I think it's mostly that Rayna gets the respect that Juliette wants. Today's country music scene is basically one long war over who's "authentic" and who's sold out. And often the line between the two is blurrier than anyone wants to admit. Juliette admires the classic country singers -- she was raised on Kitty Wells and Patsy Cline, she has Tammy Wynette's guitar, etc. -- and she does have talent, but so far she's mostly gone for a more modern sound, and that means the old-timers like Rayna have zero respect for her. And for someone like Juliette who does have roots in traditional country and really craves the respect of her peers, that hurts. (And it's also kind of hypocritical of Rayna, because as I recall someone pointing out to her at one point, Rayna too was once a newcomer with a new sound.)

    Having been a country fan for a while, I'm finding the whole thing very realistic.

    So anyway, I think Juliette started out just flaunting her youth and popularity around Rayna because that's what she does, but it turned into something much deeper.
     
  9. manhn

    manhn Well-Known Member

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    I guess my confusion lies in the fact that Juliette was so hostile to Rayna right from the start--before Rayna made those comments to the producer and before she saw the connection between Rayna and Deacon at the Blue Bird.

    That first meeting between Juliette/Rayna was in contrast to how Juliette was in such awe when she first saw Deacon. And then we Juliette weeping when she first saw Deacon singing.

    I thought there must be a personal backstory (i.e. Rayna screwed Juliette's mom behind her back to become this mega successful singer while Juliette's mom hits the bottle). I guess now it's just one of those things that can happen in pilots--heightening the emotions to a larger than necessary degree.
     
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  10. Wyliefan

    Wyliefan Well-Known Member

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    Well, also, one has to take into account that Deacon is a man and Rayna is not. :) The way that Juliette does business, one always has to take those things into account with her. Rayna is competition, in more ways than one; Deacon is someone she can seduce and try to twist around her little finger.
     
  11. Jenny

    Jenny From the Bloc

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    It think there might have been a bit of that at the beginning, but now they have a true friendship and connection, and I for one would like that to continue :)
     
  12. Jenny

    Jenny From the Bloc

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    Did everyone watch the recap last night? Nice set up for next week's new ep - can't wait!

    It was fun to see the songs performed again - I know them so well from the soundtrack CD, so it was a good reminder of the first time I heard each one. I really liked how they used one character's song as an overlay of another's story.

    Spoiler from the "next week on" for those who missed:
    Looks like Tebow accepts Juliette's proposal (which kinda surprises me, as I thought he'd want to be all traditional about it), although it's unclear if they actually make it to the altar.
     
  13. Wyliefan

    Wyliefan Well-Known Member

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    Oh, I agree. I was just saying, that's how they started out, and one of the major reasons she wanted to be around him in the beginning.
     
  14. manhn

    manhn Well-Known Member

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    Is it just me or did anyone else think the journalist looks like Gordeeva?

    Screw Avery and Screw Gunnar. I want stoopid mumbly Scarlett with JT!!!

    I was a bit disappointed that Sean is really that naive.

    This episode was only okay. I think next week looks great but if this were real life, the tour would be overshadowed by Juliet leaving Sean at the altar. Rayna is currently doing nothing of interest, and this won't help her character.
     
  15. Wyliefan

    Wyliefan Well-Known Member

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    I think she looks like Ali McGraw! :)

    Scarlett sounds about five hundred thousand times better when she's singing her own songs. But at least "rocker chick" was a bit of a change from "deer in the headlights."

    I was kind of hoping Juliette would last a little longer in that marriage, just to stick it to her mother-in-law some more. Besides, my family and I had started a pool on how long it would last. If they really get divorced in the next couple of weeks, I owe my dad a pizza.
     
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  16. Jenny

    Jenny From the Bloc

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    I still don't think Avery is that bad - in fact, I think it's selfish of his buddies and Scarlett to want him to cast aside his dreams in favour of some sort of dated bro code - they should be happy for him! And, it's not the like the door is closed on them - if he's a success, there are still opportunities for them - many big stars bring their childhood friends along for the ride and find career opportunities for them too.

    It would be interesting to know if Twist of Barb Wire is supposed to have been written by Avery, or if it's the band's, or if they even bothered to nail it down (never mind it was actually written by Elvis Costello :)). Could be an interesting storyline if Avery records it, and so does Scarlett with his old band - and interestingly, the way Scarlett sang it was a lot more like the way Dominic wanted to mix it for Avery. Avery's original version is on the soundtrack CD btw, and sounds great.

    Another interesting thing this ep is that Teddy knows Maddie isn't his. I wonder if they intended that when Rayna's father first threatened her with it in ep 1, because in this version, it makes Teddy a lot stronger. Assuming the actual father is Deacon, this makes his messed up emotional situation that much more complicated, just as we are learning that it might have been the death of a friend that sent him into rehab and broke up his relationship with Rayna.

    We're also continuing to see that Juliette and Rayna have a lot more in common than they think. In this ep, we saw that both have a habit of running when things get too hard to deal with - whether it's running from the altar, suggesting they jet off to NY, abruptly going on tour ("I just know when it's time to head out on tour"), breaking off a relationship (not just Juliette, but Rayna dumping Deacon when he likely needed her most), or simply storming out of the room as both have done several times so far.

    Love, love, love this show!
     
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  17. Wyliefan

    Wyliefan Well-Known Member

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    Oh, thank God Teddy didn't kiss that stupid woman. I was literally yelling at him not to!

    Of course, I'm sure we're not rid of her yet . . .

    Also, :rofl: at Rayna's producer, what's-his-name, calling Juliette out on her everlasting brattiness. I can't help liking her, but she IS a brat, and she needs to be told so early and often. I think this guy needs to stick around a while!
     
  18. HeatherC

    HeatherC Go Team SW Florida! =)

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    Thank goodness for Chicago Fire in reruns for a couple weeks so I can focus on Nashville alone for a while! I love them both but dang, it makes my Wednesday nights insane trying to focus on both of them when they're new. :eek:

    Anyway, I LOVE THIS SHOW. Loved the guitar guy (whose name I can't remember) giving Juliette a lesson in sharing, loved Deacon standing up for Scarlet and getting the heck off that other tour (I don't remember that friend of his being a total d-bag before), I liked Avery standing up to that smarmy manager lady, and I really liked seeing both Rayna and Juliette perform tonight. Next week's show looks fantastic and I cannot wait to see what other stuff happens with the tour mates again. How fast do you guys think Deacon will end up on the tour with Rayna & Juliette??! ;) :cheer: :swoon: :biggrinbo

    Favorite Quote: "That's the closest thing to an apology that I've ever heard come from her." -Juliette's manager :lol:
     
  19. Wyliefan

    Wyliefan Well-Known Member

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    My favorite country singer, Chris Young, has a cameo next week. I am OVER THE MOON. :swoon: I doubt he'll sing -- "cameo" doesn't sound like a singing appearance -- but it'll be so cool just to see him on there!

    And yeah, the minute that guy started hitting on Scarlett, I said aloud, "Rayna's got herself a guitar player!" Such nice convenient timing. :D
     
  20. Jenny

    Jenny From the Bloc

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    Much of this ep was predictable, but I enjoyed it anyway :cheer:

    Deacon had to get off that tour to reunite with Rayna eventually, you knew Gunner's brother was planning to take off, Avery falling for the fast talking producer was inevitable, and Teddy's win of course. I don't think he's going to end up sleeping with KW-P and I think they likely want to keep his character as clean and struggling against his FIL's manipulations while trying to be a good husband.

    Love the tour name - Red Lips White Lies! I hope they show Rayna and Juliette performing together again, and once Deacon's on the tour, maybe he'll end up playing for Juliette as well? Then perhaps Undermine comes back??

    Love Rayna's producer guy - hope we learn more about him and that he doesn't turn into a jerk, and I'm waiting for Tandy's story - but I bet that will be season 2.
     
  21. manhn

    manhn Well-Known Member

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    Is that it for Tim Tebow? Aww, buh-buy Christian Football Player With the Giant Tattoos, but I did love your final scene. Anyways, we know Juliette will end up with Liam, as they both currently cute-despise each other.

    Gunnar's brother looked damn familiar, but then I realized he was in one of my favourite episodes of The Ghost Whisperer. They even look like brothers. They both smile similarly.

    The chemistry between Teddy and Kimberly Williams was *smokin'* in that final scene. I don't know if Teddy actually has any feelings for her, but I think he misses someone who is truly in love with him.

    Avery does not interest me at all. Way extraneous.
     
  22. heckles

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    That was something else when he said something to Juliette along the lines of, "You said I wouldn't like you if I got to know you. You were right." Ouch!
     
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  23. Wyliefan

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    I don't know. . . . They might, but they might not. I realize cute-despising is one of the biggest romantic tropes of all time, but I think the despising might be just a little too strong in this case, especially on his side. We'll see.

    I've given up making predictions about this show, anyway. I lost a bet with my dad over the length of Juliette's marriage. (I gave it six weeks, he gave it three, so he was closer.)
     
  24. Jenny

    Jenny From the Bloc

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    The idea of Liam and Juliette is interesting. She already went after Deacon, so I could see her going after Rayna's new collaborator/guitar player too - especially when Deacon is back in the picture.

    I hope they continue to develop Liam - there could be an interesting story there as he's won over to country music, and continues to help Rayna develop her sound. Plus, he's one of the few that isn't impressed by her celebrity and position as queen of country music, so one of the few that will actually speak straight to her and maybe help her grow as a person as well as a musician.

    Back to KWP - I do like her, but don't like that she's gone from strong and somewhat mysterious to cloying - if she continues, I'd like her to be a force. If Teddy hooks up with her - or better yet lets her get involved in his mayoral work, which would be far more interesting than an affair - then it would be fun to see her butting heads with FIL and Tandy.

    Random trivia about the actors:

    The Stella sisters, who play Rayna's kids, are the children of country singers the Stellas, who live in Nashville but are Canadian.

    Also add Liam to the list of key characters who are not American - he's Dutch, Gunner is a Brit, and Scarlett is from Australia. I must say they have all mastered the accent :)

    Tilky Jones, who plays Sean, was a member of the band Take 5 before he started acting.
     
  25. Wyliefan

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    I don't see Peggy ever becoming a force of any kind. She is, as you said, far too cloying and clinging. And I don't think it's just a front, like Scarlett O'Hara pretending to be a delicate Southern belle -- I think that's really how she is.
     
  26. Jenny

    Jenny From the Bloc

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    Yeah, it's a pity. When she first came on the show, positioned as part of the country club set and clearly up to something businessy with Teddy, I imagined her as Julia Roberts' character in Charlie Wilson's War. If you aren't familiar with the movie (or the book), she plays a smart Texas socialite who uses her connections to make things happen in Washington, based on a real life person. I had hoped that's where they were going with Peggy, but sadly it seems not. At least at the moment - they could still turn it around I think.
     
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  28. genevieve

    genevieve drinky typo pbp, closet hugger Staff Member

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    just got caught up...these first 2 episodes felt rushed and full of needless exposition and only a few scenes of substance. wish they'd allowed at least one more episode for Juliette's marriage before she pulled her inevitable disappearing act, and I wish there were at least one more ep of Deacon touring with the Revel Kings so we can see that relationship truly crumbling. Very interesting to see the dynamics of Rayna and Teddy's marriage and how he has known all along about Maddy's paternity. The bit with Peggy at the end was dumb...her intro to the show made her seem like a powerful romantic rival for Rayna, and now she comes across as a needy, unbalanced stalker. Ew. The less we see or hear of her again, the better.
     
  29. Wyliefan

    Wyliefan Well-Known Member

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    Ooooh, that was a good episode. Best one yet, I think. And not just because Chris Young brought his studliness along. (Though it certainly didn't hurt. :swoon: ) I LOVED Juliette's last scene with her mom. And I loved Scarlett singing at the end -- she's never sounded so confident.

    But it seemed like everybody and his brother had some sort of remark to make about Rayna's marriage! What's that about? My gosh, I was starting to root for her to tell them all it was none of their business, and go home and make up with Teddy for good. Like the man said, he's done all the apologizing he can do!

    Looking at the preview, though, when Ms. Hot Mess comes back into the picture . . . it dawns on me that Teddy's got a pattern. He goes for women who are falling apart and need someone to "fix" them. No wonder he can't seem to tell Peggy to get away from him -- she's the textbook definition of "falling apart." :(
     
  30. HeatherC

    HeatherC Go Team SW Florida! =)

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    Great episode tonight and I'm glad Deacon didn't really fall off the wagon (aside from the random breaking of his guitar....line of the night: "It was out of tune" :lol: ). I need to get some sleep but I'm super stoked that this show seems to get better and better every week. It's really finding it's stride now and I can't wait to see where they take everything. Next week looks really good!! :cheer: