Oh, yeah, I completely agree with you. I probably should have expanded that statement to say that I think he is interested in her for selfish reasons. I can understand the situation, because I was involved in a situation similar to this, except that there was sex involved, and I didn't even find out that the guy had a girlfriend until over 2 years in. And then I was hooked (because I wanted it to turn into more) and I figured that *I* wasn't the one telling this woman I loved/cared for her and then turning around and messing around on her behind her back, all the while living in her house with her, etc.; he was, so the guilty conscience would be on him. He would tell me she had "issues with physical intimacy" whatever the hell that meant - I don't know, because he never got specific (duh!!). Long story short - it ended in a rather ugly fashion 17 months ago, because every time he would say he was too busy to hang out, I'd spritz out and get upset and mentally rail at him because "he's lying" blah blah blah. We never did discuss why he thought it was OK for him to lie to me and to her both, so everytime I would send him a voice mail and he wouldn't get back to me, I would go right back to that one incident. Oh, it was great when he was coming over and all, but when he wasn't... yikes. It's embarrassing to read my blog entries about this, the extent that I let it color the rest of my life is just pathetic. One time, when I did catch him in a lie, I just snapped and let loose on his cell voice mail. I didn't say everything I was thinking, but it was enough, and he told me he never wanted to see me again. Fine, because I didn't want to see him again either. I used to be so jealous of his girlfriend, but now... I pity her, because she has no flippin' clue exactly who she is allowing to live under her roof, play father-figure to her daughter, and sleep in her bed, and I'm sure he's found another young woman who is as gullible as I was and not wise enough to be able to see the signs that he is hiding something. I wouldn't want to be with him anyhow. If he cheated on her, he'd cheat on me after a time, I'm sure. I'm at the point now where I don't even want to be in a relationship, thanks to what I went through with this guy. It's a lot easier for me to stay "in balance" and focused on what is imprtant in my life when I am single.