My 20 predictions for 2013-2014 season.

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  1. wristflick

    wristflick New Member

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    These are 20 things I have a feeling will happen next season.

    1. Yu Na Kim will win her 2nd Olympic Gold, then retire again, only to return sometime in the next quad, possibly winning her 3rd pre Olympic Worlds and 3rd Olympics in the process, her usual pattern.
    2. Davis & White will win their 1st Olympic Gold, then win their 3rd World title, and then turn pro.
    3. Virtue & Moir will win their 1st Olympic Silver, skip Worlds, and turn pro.
    4. Akiko Suzuki will win the Olympic bronze, then win the World title on home ice, then turn pro.
    5. Miki Ando will attempt a comeback and place 3rd or 4th at Nationals, which will be insufficient to make the team.
    6. Evan Lysacek will attempt a comeback and place 3rd or 4th at Nationals, which will be insufficient to make the team.
    7. Evgeny Plushenko will skate at a final Olympics, place between 5th to 9th, then retire for good.
    8. Voloszhar & Trankov will win their 1st Olympic Gold, win their 2nd straight Worlds, then go back on their original thoughts and continue awhile longer.
    9. Savchenko & Szolkowy will win their 2nd straight Olympic bronze, and then retire, without even going to the post Olympic Worlds.
    10. Team Canada will win an impressive 4 medals at the Games, but only 1 gold, in the Team Event.
    11. Ashley Wagner will surprise most people by retaining her U.S title over Gracie Gold. She will win the bronze at the post Olympic Worlds, then go pro.
    12. Christina Gao will finally make the Olympic and World team, and perform admirably at both, and continue with the sport post Sochi.
    13. Chan will place from 3rd to 5th at the Olympics, then go pro before the Worlds.
    14. Takahashi will place from 5th to 9th at his final Olympics, then go pro.
    15. Brian Joubert will place from 5th to 9th at his final Olympics, then go pro.
    16. Carolina Kostner will win the Olympic silver, then go pro after the season.
    17. Javier Fernandez will win the Olympic Gold.
    18. Alissa Czisny will make a final comeback, placing 5th to 7th at Nationals, then go pro.
    19. Caroline Zhang will skate at her final Nationals, placing outside the top 10, then go pro.
    20. Kevin Reynolds will medal at the post Olympic Worlds.
  2. euterpe

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    How can all these skaters "go pro" when there are limited tour opportunities? The Russian and Japanese skaters might find a berth in tours in their countries, but the pickings are slim in the US.
  3. judgejudy27

    judgejudy27 Well-Known Member

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    There is still American Stars on Ice (although probably going under in a year or two) and Canadian Stars on Ice which is going stronger.
  4. blue_idealist

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    Just my thoughts on these.
  5. IceIceBaby

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    But it's only a couple of weeks in a year. And there isn't many opportunities for European skaters, only Art on Ice, but they have only a couple free spots because Lambiel and Plushenko are always part of it.
  6. parapluies

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    :rofl: LOL!
    They are a good team but not good enough for Olympic Gold. Also am I the only one who noticed a pattern? V/M seem to do better in years that end with an even number. For example in 2009 D/W beat V/M at 4cc and at GPF but in 2010 V/M beat D/W twice (Olympics Worlds) in 2011 (an odd number year) D/W beat V/M twice again (Worlds GPF) whereas in 2012 V/M beat D/W twice (4cc and Worlds). Excluding GPF, (which I think V/M keep on losing because they missed 2 GP seasons that is why D/W have more points than V/M they have done more grand prix competitions I think) D/W beat V/M twice in 2013. The seasons D/W beat V/M was because they were doing something different (PF, Latin, Carmen) that challenged them and possibly aggravated Tessa's injury. So what they need for the Olympics is a program similar to Mahler where they have to choreograph around Tessa's injury.
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  7. danceronice

    danceronice Corgi Wrangler

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    You really think Chan's not going to win?
  8. lauravvv

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    Plushenko hasn't skated in 'Art on ice' for the last two years (except 'Opera on Ice' last year), although that was because of his health problems. He may skate there a couple of times after retiring from competition, but he said that he doesn't really like touring and performing in shows - he gets bored. He is more likely to get busy with training and trying to build his skating school. Volosozhar/Trankov and Savchenko/Szolkowy are the ones who are a lock for at least some years to come, as 'Art on Ice' is their agency (the same as for Lambiel and Sarah Meier - but it has been said that next year she will skate in 'Art on Ice' for the last time).

    It's true that there are no that many opportunities for professional skaters - even the ones from Europe (except Russia), unless 'Art on Ice' is their agency. All of his talent and titles wouldn't help Lambiel if he was not Swiss and, therefore, the main star of 'Art on ice'. The fact that he is loved in Japan, Korea and Italy is just a bonus. He is loved in Russia too, but he can perform there two to three times in a year at best, and sometimes less, as they have their own skaters, and foreign skaters like Lambiel are too expensive (or so Averbukh says).

    It seems that there are some small local shows in USA outside of 'Stars on Ice', but I doubt that they bring huge profit, or that the bigger stars would even want to skate in such shows regularly. As for Japan, yes, there are quite many shows, but I suspect that not quite as many as it could seem. Or those too are small local shows that I haven't heard about. Anyway, the only professional that I have heard of who is regularly performing is Shizuka Arakawa. Other professionals like Honda and probably someone else have much fewer appearances.
  9. misskarne

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    Plushenko has also talked about reviving Kings on Ice after his retirement - but again, that's not going to help the Americans much, unless he takes a liking to one of them.

    At the moment, sad as it is, the best bet for any American skater to make some good money in shows is to get popular in Japan.
  10. euterpe

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    There are a few made-for-TV ice shows mostly focused around the holidays (Halloween through Christmas) but these are one-shot deals that probably don't pay much. To get those gigs, it helps if a skater has a World medal or a US Championship. Without one or both of those, a skater like Caroline Zhang probably isn't going to get any offers for the TV events. Maybe she could get a job on a cruise ship.
  11. euterpe

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    The reason V/M haven't won the GPF has nothing to do with the number of GP competitions the teams have skated. The GPF is a head-to-head competition, and V/M have never beaten D/W at it. Anyway, each time V/M have been in the GPF it was because they had won both GP events that year, and that is the same case for D/W.

    So in the 2012-2013 season, D/W beat V/M three times out of three head-to-head competitions.

    That may have worked then, but that doesn't account for the improvement in D/W's skating since 2010. It used to be that V/M always got higher PCS scores than D/W. This past season, D/W have won the PCS scores 3 times out of 3.
  12. Zemgirl

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    I took "going pro" to mean leaving competitive skating, not necessarily going into a full time show skating career. Not all skaters even want to do shows, at least not as their main occupation or for a lengthy period of time. I don't think Takahashi and Joubert are planning to do show skating for an extended amount of time.

    As for the predictions in the OP, they are way too specific and not surprising enough. This isn't the NCAA tournament, but you still need to allow for the occasional upset special.

    "D/W will win their first Olympic gold" implies that they will go on to win more Olympic golds. I find this unlikely.
  13. Whitneyskates

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    :rolleyes: They're good enough to beat the reigning OGM, quite handedly when V/M have said they're 100% healthy.
  14. Zemgirl

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    V/M never admit to having medical issues. You only find out about those afterward; they've been known to be less than truthful at times in stating that Tessa is fully healthy.
  15. Simone411

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    I believe I'll wait awhile before I even attempt to guess about predictions for 2013 - 2014 since my predictions for this year's Worlds ended up sort of "goofy". :)
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  16. Philly2034

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    No, Hanyu will finally get his stamina together.
  17. parapluies

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    Imo D/W haven't really improved much. The only thing they have improved is there consistency and that is because they recycle a lot of elements. Their technique, lines, posture, connection, etc. is still pretty much the same. They always rush into their lifts and that makes everything look sloppy and they skate so far apart. For example, if you compare V/M'S curve lift to D/W you can see Charlie wobble whereas Scott is steady. If you look at what they do closely, you can see that they are not as good as everyone and the USFS says they are. They were much more better to watch in 2010. Now I feel that they have gone stale.
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  18. Andofanatic

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    Mao is overrated in this thread. I think her Worlds medal this year will be her last World or Olympic medals of any kind. She is going downhill and unless she repeats her 4CCs level which was an aberration for her these days the judges will start dumping her with so many people coming up behind her. As for Worlds after the Olympics if Kim doesnt go, Kostner is winning that probably.
  19. rainbowkisses

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    if fs wasnt corrupt and the judging system wasn't as flawed as it is now this wouldn;t have happened. if d/w win olympic gold they can thank their federation and igor for their medal.
  20. Whitneyskates

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    :wideeyes::rofl:
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    Its kind of obvious when her injury is bothering her. Despite that she is still the most graceful ice dancer in her field.
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    How did this turn into the V/M thread?:shuffle:
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    I agree with these
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  24. dots

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    I'll go by my intuition and say:

    Ladies:
    1.) The gold medal will go to Yu-na or Kostner.

    2.) An American lady will medal. Two American ladies will finish in the top six.

    3)Mao will finish 4th-5thish.

    4)China will have a top six finish.

    5)Two Russians in the top 12.

    Men:

    1) Patrick Chan will take it (with mistakes of course :p ), unless someone skates out of this world and beats him.

    2) The only other favorite for a medal is Javier Fernandez, however I don't think he'll go clean either so probably bronze for him.

    3) Dennis Ten: Top five finish for him.

    4) Takahashi will not medal but will have a decent skate for a top six finish.

    5) Eva Lysacek will return and medal.

    6) A Russian skater (not Plushenko) will skate lights out and sneak into the top six. As high as 4th/as low as 6th.

    Dance:

    1) America's first gold medal.

    2) Canada captures silver.

    3) Contrary to popular opinion Pechalat & Bourzat will take Bronze.

    4) 4-6 will be between W/P, C/B, and C/L.

    5) B/S will make silly mistakes and take themselves out of the running. Will go head to head with the Shibutanis and might even lose to them.

    6) The Shibutanis climb a spot or two. As high as 5th/as low as 7th.

    6) R/T eclipse I/K.

    7) Germans will round out the top ten.

    Pairs

    1)Russia's likely chance for a gold Medal. She'll be ok, but he is the one to worry about. The judges will award them gold if they go clean, but if he messes up the Germans will take it gladly.

    2)The Germans are bitter about losing their world title and will no doubt be more than ready to skate the FS of their lives(with a triple Axel and all).

    3)Russia might be able to get another medal here, though D/R and M-T/M are more likely to medal.
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    I don't understand how some are counting Yuzuru Hanyu out as if he's suddenly a non entity. I'm not his biggest fan, but he had been pretty strong this year except for quad Salchow attempts, until the 4CCs. I think he'll be a major contender for Sochi if he doesn't suddenly burn out.
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    So sad that there is a "fan" like rainbowkisses among us. The things that she says then become what other skating fans think of us, Virtue/Moir fans, although in truth it is only her and probably a few others.
  27. Whitneyskates

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    I know it's not all V/M fans. If D/W win gold it definitely won't be because of USFSA, despite D/W's success, they're still salivating over the ladies.
  28. dots

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    But he's a headcase. :confused: I don't see that changing anytime soon.

    I'll put him between 7-12th.
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    My thoughts :)

  30. Li'Kitsu

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    :rofl:

    If Hanyu is a headcase, what are Chan, Takahashi and pretty much all the others? He messes up his LP's because of his stamina problems, and he's prone to injuries and illness, but he's not making any more mistakes than the majority of the guys do.
    Besides that, he's 18. Just one month older than Farris, who's the Junior World Champion. It's not unusual for the younger guys to be inconsistent, and if anyone seems to have the room to improve, it's him. Last season, he always had trouble with his SP (worlds, GPF, nats, CoR) except for CoC, this year he broke the world record twice.

    And 7th - 12th? :rofl: Except for his 2nd senior competition, Cup of Russia in 2010, where he was 7th - Hanyu never finished lower than 4th.
    Saying he has smaller chances of a medal than Lysacek is like the worst joke ever.
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    I don't think Hanyu is a head case at all, I think he's very talented, he is just young yet.Li'Kitsu said pretty much what I was thinking and worded it perfectly.
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    Hanyu is not a headcase, he's an asthmatic. Considering this limitation, his results indicate that he's probably in good shape mentally.

    In the four years leading to the Vancouver Olympics, Brian Joubert only finished off the podium twice, and never lower than fourth at any event. Outside of ice dance, the Olympics can be unpredictable and it's difficult to project who'll rise to the occasion and be rewarded for it by the judges.
  34. Li'Kitsu

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    Yes, true. And I don't mean to say that it's a definite that Hanyu will at least be 4th. I still said that in response to what dots wrote, saying Hanyu would be 7th - 12th because he's a headcase. The thing is anything can happen, but if you want to try to make some predictions based on the results we have, saying Hanyu will finish so low is quite off.
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    Hanyu is not a headcase and I'd be surprised if he doesn't finish in the top 5. I think a medal for him is likely and he has a good chance to win. Fernandez and especially Chan are much more inconsistent than Hanyu, not to mention the others whose results are all over the place like Brezina, Amodio, the other Japanese men, etc. Hanyu had a lung infection at Worlds and has severe asthma, had to get adjusted to a new coaching situation (with a language barrier) this season, added the 4s to his competitive arsenal, and is likely still experiencing some physical and emotional changes due to his young age. Plus his SP scores were huge for most of this season, if he gets a better FS for the upcoming season and can stay healthy and work on his stamina, I think he's definitely a STRONG contender for OGM.

    Lysacek will be lucky to medal at Nationals if he even shows up at all IMO, medaling at the Olympics I don't see happening barring some unusual disaster/him suddenly procuring a consistent quad and high quality 3a, which I doubt.
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  36. DimaToe

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    My 20 predictions :p

    1.People will declare Chanflation whether he wins the OGM or not

    2.70% of NBC's skating coverage in Sochi will consist of Scott H. grunting :rolleyes:

    3.We will get about 500 "what if?" polls in the Trash Can regarding the Kween.

    4.Evan Lysacek will grow tired of Vera Wang and pursue Donatella Versace

    5.Ross Miner will try to be risque and his costumes will have a mega V-neck

    6.Andofanatic will award Miki Ando the Olympic Platinum Medal. Which will make Plushenko lose his sh!t and sue him/her.

    7.Liza T. will wear black costumes.

    8.Joubert will become even more ::smokin::grope: Which is always a plus.

    9.It will be :mad::lynch::revenge::argue::soapbox::angryfire:drama::skandal after the dance competition in Sochi.

    10.Robin Szolkowy "assets" will grow a mind of it's own and skate pairs after S/S retire.

    11.Amodio will molest himself to another Euro medal.

    12.Someone will think outside the box....and skate to Carmen! :eek:

    13.Wanting to live up to the "greatness" that was the Ghost FD, Morozov will have I/K skate to Legally Blonde, The Musical :scream:

    14.Japanese Men's nationals will be more :drama: than the actual Olympic Men's competition.

    15.Purple

    16.R/T will skate to a Waltz....
    17.Gracie Gold's UGGs will be take the 3rd U.S ladies spot :EVILLE:

    18.Tomas Verner will successfully land a 3t-2t combo

    19.Whatever happened to Lady Latvia? :confused:

    20. My favourite skater will be wuzrobbed!!! :mad: :bribe: Judging I tell you!! :p
  37. Whitneyskates

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    Would Nikita play Warner, Emmett or Bruiser?
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    HAHAHAHAH!!!!!

    #1 for sure....he can go 100% clean and perhaps double one jump or have a small stepout everyone will scream inflation and gifted titles :p
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    Actually he would play Elle, unless Elena goes blonde, then Id say Warner. Morozov would play Bruiser :dog: :lol:
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    my turn!

    1.V/T will win OGM and stay around until the next batch of good Russian pairs come along.
    2.K/S will unfortunately be outside the medal race and lose support from RF, thus retiring after worlds in Tokyo (or maybe before).
    3.Davis/White will continue to push ice dance to new levels and will probably have a slight edge on Virtue/Mori in the SD, but will win the FD by an unbelievable margin,thus becoming OGM.
    4.Virtue/Moir will have a FD program that's suited to their abilities. Kind of like Mahler, but they won't be able to perform it 100%. Each year they look so tired like someone has a gun to their head forcing them to skate. However, I do think they can make a great Finnstep to match Davis/White. It's going to be close.
    5.YNK will win 2nd OGM.
    6.Plushenko will try a comeback, but fail the SP, landing him in 5th or 6th place. And of course he's going to complain,whine,bitch (normal Plushy stuff).
    7.The judges are going to judge Chan the right way and he's going to get the bronze or even 4th.
    8.OGM in men is really a mystery for me. I don't think Hanyu's stamina is there just quite yet. Javier can have a meltdown in the SP.., Takahashi may not be up to the game that day. However, if everyone does horrible in the SP and Chan does a clean SP and no major mistakes in the LP, I'll give it to him.
    9. Asada is going to feel tremendous pressure (like last time) and perform not so good in the SP, but bring it back in the LP. And of course she's going to worlds in Tokyo to get her new SB after that.
    10.Chock/Bates are going to place in the top 6 in Tokyo.
    11.Kostner will skate clean for the most part and get the silver OM, then retire after that.
    12.Murakami is going to become the top Japan lady after Mao retires. She might even get the bronze in Tokyo.
    13.I/K are going to stay around after Sochi and switch to Igor fulltime.
    14.Ashley..Ashley..Ashley, well for the most part I believe Ashley will become USN champ again. But in Sochi I feel like the SP is going to curse her like always. And then when she realizes that the medals are out, she's going to fully attack the LP. I expect a SB. But I hope she comes in 4th! Just not below Gracie. I feel like she has more quality skating than Gold.
    15.Gracie will probably have a mistake or two and place in the top ten. But she's going to stick around so this will be a great experience for her.
    16.Liza will have a very dramatic LP, but won't perform it 100%, because of pressure skating at home.
    17.Adelina will also feel pressure and fail to deliver after a clean season.
    18.Max Aaron will not come within medal reach, but nonetheless he will be happy with his scores and getting the opportunity to compete at the Olympics. He'll probably compete in Tokyo and place 5th or 6th, then eventually disappear from the media.
    19.P/B will fail to deliver and B/S will sneak up and get the bronze.
    20.I HOPE EVERYONE AVOIDS SERIOUS INJURY AND NO ONE GETS ROBBED!!

    that's all
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