Miki Ando was recommande Ephedrine

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  1. Satoko

    Satoko New Member

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    Miki Ando had a cought a cold after Shizuka's FOI.

    At tweeter, anyone recomannded Miki to take Sutona(a
    cold medicine) included Ephedrine.

    So Mao Asada advertises Sutona.

    Does it mean?:rollin::rollin::rollin::rollin:
     
  2. kittyjake5

    kittyjake5 Well-Known Member

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  3. Satoko

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    Yes in Japan, many cold medicine include Ephedrine
    So Miki knows it.
    And she didn't have the nedecine.

    But Maotas say Miki's tweet is obstructing Mao's business.
     
  4. Domshabfan

    Domshabfan Well-Known Member

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    I am even more confused by this post.
     
  5. Yukari Lepisto

    Yukari Lepisto Active Member

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    I'm just completely confused about this whole thread...
     
  6. Vash01

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    I was confused by the title- sounded like a foreign language. Upon closer inspection it turned out to be just a typo.
     
  7. overedge

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    Is Miki alleging that Mao is somehow trying to harm her by recommending she take a remedy that contains a banned substance?
     
  8. Satoko

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    Miki said in tweeter, but it conflict with the dooping?
    So she didn't accept this advice.
    I think she has wisdom.
     
  9. inskate

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    Nope, it's just the "fans" (or haters disguised as fans in an attempt to make the fans look bad...) being delusional. :cold: Threads like those just encourage the crazies. :slinkaway

    Just to clarify, Mao didn't recommend Sutona to Miki; some "fan" did.
     
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  10. Domshabfan

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    or mao is taking this cold medication w/o knowing the content :scream:
     
  11. Satoko

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    I suppose anyone didn't know Sutona including banned medicine.
     
  12. Vash01

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    When will the issue about cold medicine/ban substance come to an end? The ISU & the IOC need to find ways to differentiate between taking a cold medicine vs. intentionally taking drugs to improve athletic ability. It very nearly destroyed the career of Elena Berezhnaya (& Sikharulidze).
     
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    This one will not end well, will it? :watch:
     
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    Why? I mean, if the consequence is taking a drug that improves athletic ability, does intent really matter? And can't you argue that lack of intent is what saved Berezhnaya (ie, if she was intentionally taking the banned substance, wouldn't her career have been thwarted much more profoundly?_
     
  16. MrSatterwhite

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    And a thread like this belongs in the trash can.

    Literally.
     
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  17. Michalle

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    Trying to read and understand this thread makes me feel like I've taken some kind of drug... and not just ephedrine.
     
  18. caseyedwards

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    When I read the first post it definitely seemed like Mao fans were trying to get Miki in trouble for doping.
     
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  20. sus2850

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    I think it is not that sinister, the initial poster wanted to say that Mao Asada did an advertising campaign for that remedy (in 2010 apparently).

    And maybe the poster wanted to question why an athlete endorses a product she herself should better not use while competing.

    But yes, no skating news in here.
     
  21. Ziggy

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    Ephedrine is an amphetamine and methamphetamine derivative.

    It's a stimulant and it promotes weight loss.

    Obviously it's banned by WADA.

    The real problem is with the pharmaceutical companies selling shit like this as 'cold medicine' (there is no cure for the common cold) and people being gullible enough to buy it.
     
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  22. dawnie

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    There's bad blood between Mao and Miki fans? That's kind of refreshing... it's not Mao vs Yuna for once! :lol:
     
  23. Alex Forrest

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    I couldn't understand it either. Is Mao actually endorsed by a drug company whose product is banned for performance?

    There was that Olympic AA gold medalist, Raducan, who had to give up the gold medal because she tested positive for a ephedra-like derivatives due to a cold. Thing is, these cold medicines have anti-histamines in them usually, which can really affect a performance. I wouldn't want to do beam after taking an anti-histamine.

    Other than that, yeah, it might just be sensationalist goss. But it could be worse.
     
  24. DimaToe

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    Idk if this thread is either :lol: or :yikes:, but I am wondering why it's not in the trash can yet :confused:
     
  25. AJ Skatefan

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    It also helps you breathe better, which comes in handy when you have a cold.
     
  26. Rob

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    I think this thread was supposed to be funny. Miki had a cold. Someone tweeted the name of a cold medicine to her. Since Mao endorses that product, it contains a banned substance, and Mao is Miki's rival, wouldn't it be evil if it were Mao under a pseud who recommended the medicince!!!! I don't think this was meant to be serious.
     
  27. Susan M

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    Actually, both Raducan and Berezhnaya had taken cold remedies with Pseudophedrine, not ephedrine.

    Pseudophed is the ingredient found in some over-the-counter cold medicine here and is much milder. The WADA positive test threshold for it is 150 micrograms/mml vs only 10 micrograms for ephedrine.

    Under today's WADA code, these products may now be used with a Therapeutic Use Exemption. (Basically, you file paperwork from a doctor with your federation.) Lots of athletes have TUEs on file. Anyone who takes asthma medications has one. Also, this is the same exemption that allowed Slutskaya to compete on steroids.

    So, yes, this is totally a tempest in a teapot. If an athlete wanted to take a cold medicine with pseudophed (or even ephedra), they just file the paperwork and take the medicine.
     
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  28. maatTheViking

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    nope, but many of these products will help with the symptoms of the cold (useful for atheletes) and/or knock you out so you sleep, and giving your body rest is probably the best 'cure' for a cold.

    But yeah, I agree that the advertising is doubtful...
     
  29. MINAM

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    I think you are correct. It's just a joke (IMO).

    BTW, the product is "Stona" by Sato Pharma (glad it didn't name it "Stoner" PML). Mao Asada has been in their ad for a few years.
    http://www.stona.jp/
     
  30. AndyWarhol

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    I love this thread!