Miki Ando out of GP series (2013-2014 will be her last season)

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  1. MINAM

    MINAM The "NICE" Admin Staff Member

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  2. caseyedwards

    caseyedwards Well-Known Member

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    Maybe Sochi is not the focus but would be a nice bonus or she is just thinking 2012-2013?
  3. rosewood

    rosewood Well-Known Member

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    :wuzrobbedOh my god!! I guess her last performance as an amateur will be done at JO or WTT next season.
  4. oleada

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    It's hardly a suprirse but unfortunate :(
  5. blue_idealist

    blue_idealist Well-Known Member

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    Strange that she's going to compete in 2013 and quit right before Sochi. You would think if she was sticking around, she would stick around for the extra season to compete in the Olympics, especially since she was close to medalling last itme.
  6. smarts1

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    ... The dating affair between Morozov and Miki was real?!?!?
  7. DimaToe

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    That's what I thought about first, the oddness of retiring in the pre olympic season. But looking back I would guess that her goal was winning worlds in her home country in 2011 and retiring after that, And even though she did win, it wasn't the "perfect" ending to her career. After that came her disastrous FS at the 2011 Japan Open,which was her last competitive appearance. So I think that while she doesn't have the desire to continue, she doesn't want her 2011 JO performance to be the way that she leaves the sport. Just how it seems to me though.
  8. Ziggy

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    Yes, Morozov has dated Ando (and they have been engaged) and yes he is now dating Ilinykh (with her mother's approval).
  9. victoriaheidi

    victoriaheidi New Member

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    Do we have confirmation that he's dating Elena? Or just speculation/rumors?

    Because if it's true, time for Elena to run...:scream:
  10. Ziggy

    Ziggy Well-Known Member

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    I've had this confirmed from a number of reliable sources.
  11. babayaga

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    Ekaterina Pushkash who is now training in Morozov's group confirmed it on her page on a Russian social network. She said they have been together for over a year and that it is not a secret :)
  12. caseyedwards

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    Whatever works for them!
  13. Susan M

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    I would have taken it to mean the federation had already turned their focus to other skaters, so didn't much care what she was doing.

    I would have thought "next season" meant 2013-2014. The 2012-2013 season has already started, so that would be *this* season. (Maybe not in Japanese?)
  14. l'etoile

    l'etoile New Member

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    I think Miki feels strong obligation of decent ending towards her country people which is very thoughtful of her. She seems to want to end her amateur career in Japanese nationals and I wish thet best of luck with her there!
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  15. quiqie

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    Miki signed some papers regarding her participation in the Grand Prix, didn't she? What are the consequences she is facing now? Can ISU ban her from the Olympics?
  16. Marco

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    2011 was a perfect ending for her, winning all her GPs, Nationals, 4CCs and Worlds.

    If she is to try for Sochi next season, there is going to be some competition even making the team, with Asada, Suzuki and Murakami all skating reasonably well now.
  17. Loves_Shizuka

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    Miki :(

    I just hope she is happy - because she hadn't seemed so for a while.
  18. Jeschke

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    obviously the end of her competive career is near.

    she seems absolutely relaxed about probable punishments by the isu.

    i think, as said before, she just wanted to leave with a good performance, japanese nationals or japan open should be the place for that.

    may these day be long long away
  19. Hiro32

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    She is not thinking about Sochi at this moment.
    She might get a penalty from ISU because she won't compete GP series this season for proper reasons such as injuries. She needs to see what ISU says about her eligibility next year.
    If she can't compete internationally next year, her last competition would be Nationals next year, but it could be regionals, too.

    She just wants to compete in front of her fans one more time but she is not ready for it this season because she hasn't found a new coach.

    In March Morozov told Miki that he couldn't be her coach this season. He didn't talk to her about it in person again and as a result she had to give up on him as her coach.
  20. npavel

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    maybe she is aiming at worlds 2014 in Japan, seeing there is much competition in Japan and it could be difficult to be part of the Olympic team
  21. Jeschke

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    i have my doubts about that.

    skating is so popular in japan, every lady taking part in olympics (assuming ando is none of them) wouldn´t want to give their home spot away, if they earned it at nationals.

    maybe if there´s an olympic champion (asada, who else) but even then, the media pressure would really want to see her.

    japan open, nationals or world team trophy are more likey.
  22. analia

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    The way I see it, Miki is delirious and heartbroken about Morozov and doesn't know what's next for her. I saw Miki at a show early in the summer and she didn't seem very happy on the ice.
  23. Marco

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    Is she training in Japan or the US now? What are her coaching choices?
  24. wonderlen

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    I think Miki already accompalished everything. Two world titles, + a world bronze, 5th place at her last Olympic from a country that skating only became popular the last two decades. And she is already what 25? 26? Im sure she will have no prob finding career outside of skating.
  25. Lainerb

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    I wish her the best in whatever it is she decideds to do in the future. I hope she finds the person she's been looking for in a relationship(I.E not Morozov).
  26. love_skate2011

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    Poor Miki , I think she is more damaged emotionally :( :wuzrobbed
    don't know how much Morozov affected her on this but good luck to her
    maybe I can still see her for another season maybe at nationals or 4CC
  27. snoopysnake

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    D*mn you, Morozov! :mad:

    It took Miki a long time to mature into a complete skater and it's a shame that she is losing her chance (which I think had been a good one) of finally winning the Olympics.

    I wonder how Miki might have done if she could have been coached by Brian Orser after Yu-Na left.

    << ()"o >>

    Snoopy hugs, Miki.
  28. ratatouille

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    I don't know where you guys find reports saying that she was dating Morozov but it's been a while she's dating fellow japanes skater.
  29. Frau Muller

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    Morozov spreads his poo-poo yet again. What a jerk.
  30. viennese

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    Disappointed and sad to hear that we won't see her skate on the GP series this season. I wanted to see her go after another world title.
  31. Susan M

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    No, they could not ban her. The GP rules do cover this. They say if a come-back skater withdraws from an event they will not be assigned another one, but they mention no other penalties. The language permitting withdrawal only for medical reasons applies only to seeded skaters.

    If she is aiming for 2013 Worlds, she still needs to post a qualifying score in a Senior B event this season.

    Also, since she did not compete in 2011-12 season, she was treated as a "come back skater" to get GP assignments this year. That procedure can only be used once, so she will need to go thru the usual qualifying procedure to get a place in any GP event if she wants to skate in the 2013 GP season.
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  32. babayaga

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    Morozov said he was going to marry her in one of his interviews after they broke up.
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    And that her mother disapproved, which is what broke up the engagement.
  34. quiqie

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    Thank you!
  35. Sylvia

    Sylvia Whee, summer club comps!

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    This AFP newswire article in English states that Ando's "absence from the GP events makes it impossible for her to qualify for December's national championships which will serve as Japan's trials for the world championships to be held in Canada next March."

    Ando can still compete at Japanese Nationals (Dec. 20-24 in Hokkaido) if she wants to, correct?
  36. Jeschke

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    the arcticle says no; but i cannot imagine that she wouldn´t get a bye to nationals, or?
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    Since she pulled out of the GP, she wouldn't be able to compete until after NHK. There are two Senior B's before Japanese Nationals -- NRW and Golden Spin -- but, according to the article to which Sylvia links below, this isn't an option.

    Doesn't that quote say that dropping out of the GPs means she can't qualify for December Nationals? If so, does that mean that there are qualifying events (like US Regionals/Sectionals and Canadian Challenges) that are already passed -- didn't Suguri compete in them and not qualify, or was that last year? -- or would take place the same time as the GP's, and for which she would have had byes?

    About sanctions against Ando, I don't think this was ever in the GP announcement, but instead in other ISU documents, but wasn't there a provision in which federations could be sanctioned if a top skater pulled out of or refused to do GP's, in addition to the block against doing shows and other competitions during GP season? The ISU was rattling its swords threatening USFS and the Russian Fed (re: Kwan and Plushenko). IIRC, this was before there was a "comeback" clause, and "comeback" skaters have to have been seeded in order to be guaranteed two under the clause.

    If this applies, the ISU would be idiots for taking on the Japanese Fed, which is one of their few solid sources of :bribe:.
  38. Sylvia

    Sylvia Whee, summer club comps!

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    That could be it. To which Regional (Block) does Ando belong? 4 of the 6 Japanese Regionals have already finished (Kanto, Chubu, Tokyo, Kinki) with the last 2 scheduled to take place this weekend -- Tohoku-Hokkaido and Shu-Shikoku-Kyushu.
  39. ltnskater

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    Love how this thread has more posts about Morozov and his dating/engagement/marriage affairs than Miki Ando's skating!

    Will really miss her when she's gone! Off the top of my head, she is probably one of the few skaters who consistently puts out clean 6 - 7 triple (usually 7) programs and I love those programs!
  40. Susan M

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    I don't know why they say that. There are at least 6 non-GP senior events she could use to earn a World (or at least 4CC) qualifying score before her Nationals. All of them would require a trip to Europe, though. Would the Japanese Federation be willing to help her get a spot and foot the bill for the trip?

    Of course, the big question is whether she is well-trained enough to actually earn the necessary TES if she goes.