Discussion in 'Great Skate Debate' started by danafan, Mar 17, 2013.
@skate_moivo: @chrisakadanafan Yes, with @tash_purich
Good luck to them!
Oh great for them!!!!!
Great!! Good luck to them!!
Disappointing news. She's not exactly in his league.
Wishing them all the best going forward. It's just too bad there isn't another girl who could skate with him.
Given his height, his choices are extremely limited.
Her solo elements do look very strong on youtube, maybe she will be more focused on pair with such a quality partner?
Yay! Hope they have great success, I love Mervin Tran.
Thank you for providing the confirmation, danafan. The competition for the third pairs spot next year will be very interesting.
Here is an article about it, in French:
Does Mervin switching countries affect his ability to get two GPs under the comeback skater rule? Either way, they'll almost certainly get SC if they progress reasonably well.
A partial translation:
As has been the case throughout his career, Tran quickly landed on his skates. With Gauthier and Marcotte, he studied the list of candidates who might skate with him, and he quickly settled on Natasha Purich, a seventeen-year-old from Alberta, who was second at Junior Nationals with Sebastian Arcieri.
"I'm not the tallest of skaters [1.75 m], and Narumi was really tiny," says Tran. "But Natasha is even smaller [1.49 m] and has plenty of experience on the international scene. We're still at the very beginning of our relationship, but I think we have the potential to go far.
"I could not skate in competition this year, but I took the opportunity to continue my studies in mechanical engineering [at McGill] and work in the gym. I am now stronger, more solid [and better able] to carry my partner. And I am still only 22 years old, and I see myself still skating in 2018 and even in 2022."
Best of luck to them.
Her basic skating and speed need some work to catch up with him, but I wouldn't describe her as "not in his league" - she's got the same throws and jumps as Narumi has, with a lot more consistency on the jumps. And Natasha is a born performer - I'm expecting some great programs out of them. I really can't think of anyone in Canada who would be a better partner for him in terms of size and ability, so I'm extremely excited for this partnership!
Looking forward to seeing them!
Good luck to the new team.
I had the opportunity to watch Natasha live at Junior Nationals this year. She competed in both the Pairs and Singles events. In Pairs, she and her partner won Silver.
In the Singles event, she seemed a fast skater. Although, that could have been excitement. I noticed her coach giving her the slow down hand signal after a jump fall.
I wonder if Mervin will move to Alberta, or if Natasha will move to Montreal?
Natasha has been in Montreal for over a year. She was training there with Arcieri.
Somebody needs to update her Wiki page
I was just wondering if Mervin had found anyone to skate w/yet. Nice to hear and yes, that 3rd spot for next year just got very interesting indeed...
Good luck to them.
Best of luck to Purich and Tran with their new partnership. The battle for the third spot next season in Canada should be quite intense.
And I hope Richard Gauthier encourages Sebastian Arcieri to keep skating pairs too as with the right new partner he can continue to develop.
I think that he's been out of competing internationally for Japan for long enough--I believe it's just 1 year that pairs/dance couples have to sit out before skating for another country.
Wishing them a great summer getting those pairs moves on track together!
Yeah they should be ok for next season IIRC.
So how does switching federations work for Mervin? Will Japanese fed release him?
Good luck to Mervin and Natasha!
BTW, how tall is Nastasha? She looks taller than Narumi in this vid:
He's a Canadian citizen, and he will have sat out a complete season. I don't think he needs a release, but if he does, I think the Japanese Federation will be more than happy to give it to him, since they effectively "fired" him.
Looks like Canada may have yet another strong pair.
Or, if they subsidized his training with Takahashi and made him into a pairs skater, the Japanese Federation might want to protect their investment in Takahashi by preventing Tran from using the training he got because of them to compete with here.
We've been around this on FSU many times. There's nothing anyone has been able to cite in the ISU Constitution or Regulations that addresses whether a citizen of a country can be held against his/her will if s/he's been skating for another Federation. The skater can apply for an exception, but that can only be applied for under Rule 109 after the release has been denied. Volosozhar, for example, was released by the Ukranian Federation to skate for Russia. It was not automatic once she was granted Russian citizenship.
If Tran is released, there's nothing to stop him from skating for Canada, because he's a citizen and as a Pairs skater, he will already have not skated for 12 months for Japan next season.
How much "protection" can the Japanese Federation possibly get? (Serious question, even if it doesn't sound like it.)
I don't really know much about either skater's new partner other than that Takahashi's partner is new to pairs and Tran's isn't. It has always been my impression, however, that Tran is a much stronger skater than Takahashi. Breaking up the pair wasn't Tran's idea, Canada already has two very strong pairs that they can send to the team competition at the Olympics, and Tran will eventually be able to skate for Canada no matter what the Japanese Federation wants to do about it. So how much of a benefit can Japan derive from keeping Tran out of competition, assuming they can do so?
She is 4' 10" according to her ISU bio. Although, Skate Canada has her listed at 4' 8". She is a few inches shorter than Hayleigh Bell (the Jr. Pairs gold medalist at nationals), who is listed as 5' 1" at both ISU and Skate Canada.
Natasha's eyes are about level with Hayleigh's mouth...
I suspect the Skate Canada site may be the most accurate, hence Natasha and Narumi are about the same height more-or-less. Narumi is listed as 4' 8" according to her ISU bio.
I was at the Jr. Nationals with my sister-in-law, and we would sometimes referring to her as "little Natasha" . She was certainly the smallest of the single skaters.
He does need a release but I am sure that the Japanese federation won't cause any problems (or at least I hope so since it's Takahashi who dumped him and not the other way round).
If you had bothered to read this thread before asking your question, you would know the answer already.
She has slightly poor jumping technique on sal, toe and especially axel. She doesn't look like she'll have the side-by-side jumps required by a champion unless she sorts that out. It's okay for an 85 pound girl but as she matures into a new body she will not be able to squeak those jumps out. I'm trying to be realistic and I promise I'm not a super pessimist! I just hope that it's resolved sooner rather than later.
Look at Vera Bazarova. Beautiful, beautiful pairs skater!! But her side-by-sides (although admittedly much worse than Natasha's) will hold that pair down from their true potential indefinitely. Such a shame.
As for her skating, she is no Narumi but with the right training she can improve lines, extension etc. Look at Meagan Duhamel. Trying to be more optimistic
I am thrilled with this new pair. It is something I have hoped for. Looking forward to seeing them in Ottawa in Jan
As Natasha will be 18 in June, I think she's well past the ravages of the puberty bug. She's just an exceptionally petite woman, like Penny Coomes.
Just a random question : had she split from Arcieri ? Or was the pair Purich/Arcieri broken so that she could skate with Tran ?
The hearsay news of Purich/Arcieri's split and her tryout with Tran was posted on March 2nd here: http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/sho...-and-updates&p=3853458&viewfull=1#post3853458
I watched her compete in Pairs at Jr Nationals in January (Silver medalists). She likely split with him afterwards to team with Tran.
Arcieri is pretty small both in height and build. There just aren't enough tiny girls out there. Maybe he can take a step back and grab someone out of novice...
This. Natasha's been about the same size for the past three seasons and doesn't show any sign of growing. She's also fairly consistent on her triple toe and salchow, whatever the technique issues may be.
I think that they may look a little rough and mismatched together at first, but so did Duhamel/Radford and look how well that turned out.
Tran and a new partner would go head-to-head with Takahashi/Kihara. T/K would have more automatic opportunities as Japan's lone entry, but if Tran's new partnership half as anointed as Gilles/Poirier, P/T should get some assignments as soon as he's released. If the Japanese Fed could keep him from getting international experience with his new partner for a season or two -- USFS held Piper Gilles for over two seasons from her last competition -- it would give T/K a head start.
The Japanese Fed also might want compensation for training him up, and I'm not sure Skate Canada pays for skaters' releases. As far as I know, they didn't try to mess with Tikhonov or Markuntsev, but these might be different times.
Maybe he should talk to Brooklee Han. I admit I know nothing about pairing up pairs skaters, and she is from Australia, and she has no experience, BUT, as soon as I saw her at Worlds I thought "pairs!" I believe she is only 4'8".
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