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Mens medalists at Sochi Olympics

Discussion in 'The Trash Can' started by butyrskafanatic, Jul 14, 2013.

Mens Olympic medalists in Sochi

  1. Fernandez

    55.8%
  2. Hanyu

    46.0%
  3. Chan

    75.2%
  4. Ten

    18.6%
  5. Takahashi

    31.9%
  6. Plushenko

    21.2%
  7. another Japanese man (Kozuka, Oda, Mura)

    5.3%
  8. an American man (Abbott, Lysacek, Aaron)

    13.3%
  9. a French skater (Amodio, Joubert)

    3.5%
  10. Reynolds

    4.4%
  11. someone not included above or in an above category so far

    4.4%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. butyrskafanatic

    butyrskafanatic Active Member

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    At this point who would be your picks for the 3 medals (in whatever order) for men at the Sochi Olympics. It is multiple choice so please pick 3 different men, the 3 you would predict if you had to bet money on it to be the medalists in Sochi right now.
     
  2. judgejudy27

    judgejudy27 Well-Known Member

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    I have a feeling Chan wont be on that podium, as unlikely as that might seem to some now. I am going to say Fernandez, Hanyu, and a real surprise for the other medal. I cant count on Ten, and I dont feel confident in Takahashi, and I certainly dont think it will be Lysacek, Plushenko, or Joubert. So a real surprise, maybe Reynolds or Aaron for the bronze.

    I suspect most will vote for Chan, Fernandez, and Hanyu though, along with perhaps Takahashi.
     
  3. Jammers

    Jammers Well-Known Member

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    Please anyone but Reynolds. Except for his jumps which are not that impressive either his skating skills are lacking compared to the top men.
     
  4. judgejudy27

    judgejudy27 Well-Known Member

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    I would hope Aaron medals before Reynolds if it comes to that. I see more potential in him of the two.
     
  5. blue_idealist

    blue_idealist Well-Known Member

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    For some reason I agree with you that Chan won't be on the podium. My gut feeling says he will finish 4th and be flummoxed as to how that occurred. I might just be thinking of 2010 when he said he was going to win and then finished 5th, but yeah, just a feeling.

    Voted for Fernandez, Hanyu and Takahashi. I think it'll be in that order, actually, or the first two switched around. Possibly the first Spanish men's champion?
     
  6. misskarne

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    Why are Abbott, Aaron and Lysacek the only options for "an American man"? Of those three Aaron is the only one who's going to get anywhere near the Olympic team.
     
  7. VarBar

    VarBar Well-Known Member

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    Who could "someone not included above or in an above category so far" getting two votes be? Brezina, Gachinski, Rogozine, Kovtun, Farris? Speak up please.;)
     
  8. Li'Kitsu

    Li'Kitsu Well-Known Member

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    I'd say Chan is going to make the podium, but instead of winning I think he'll get silver or even bronze. Takahashi didn't have his best season in 12-13, but his seasons always go up and down (good in 09-10, worse in 10-11, good again in 11-12, worse again in 12-13), so I wouldn't count him out. He's still won the GPF this season and he's been fighting his way back up more than once already, I belive he still has it in him.
    For Ten, well... he had one good event. Yes, it was the most recent one, but that doesn't cancel out that he always had troubles before and will probably face more pressure now than he had before. He's a complete wildcard for me, and I'd rather wait for the beginning of the next season to really predict anything for him. Additionally, if really anyone skated clean, I doubt he could come close to Chan/Fernandez/Hanyu/Takahashi. He doesn't have the technical firepower to keep up with Fernandez and Hanyu, and he shouldn't be able to touch Chan and Takahashi on PCS (actually, he might lose in both categories to all four of them).
    Now comes the tricky part: Hanyu and Fernandez. Both of them are still moving up, but they're both less experienced than Chan and Takahashi. So if I'd have to pick now, I'd expect one of them to rise to the occasion and win the whole thing while the other one will likely falter and and end up lower, maybe 4th. So for now, I'd predict the podium to be Fernandez, Chan, Takahashi, with Hanyu in 4th - with my second pick being Hanyu, Chan, Takahashi and Fernandez in 4th :D

    For other potential spoilers... I'd go with Kozuka. Yes, I know it's been a long time since he was skating really well, but it's not as if Reynolds or Aaron were perfect examples of consistency, and both are lacking visibly in the PCS department. Amodio could shake things up if he really skated well, and of course Plushenko, if he's really healthy, is a potential medal thread (and definitly the best competitor of all the guys mentioned, that shouldn't be underestimated).
    Maybe the new kids moving up could break through too - Farris or Brown, and maybe Han Yan if he goes instead of Nan Song.
     
  9. IceIceBaby

    IceIceBaby Active Member

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    Chan wins, Fernendez gets silver and Plushenko will get scandalously bronze. :D
     
  10. immoimeme

    immoimeme my posts r modded

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    Since you specified "bet money on" I picked javi plush and takahashi. I think they are the most motivated, for various reasons. But I also think there are other motivated guys . I just don't know right now if they are MORE motivated than those 3. So. How much $$$ are we talking about anyway lol.
     
  11. Jiazumi

    Jiazumi Active Member

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    1.Fernandez
    2.Takahashi
    3.Aaron

    In that order. :)
    With Hanyu, Chan, and Plushenko following respectively.
     
  12. t.mann

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    Possible scenario.
     
  13. ciocio

    ciocio Active Member

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    I don't think a bronze would be scandalous, it would be a great achievement! :confused:
     
  14. shady82

    shady82 Active Member

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    I don't understand why people think Chan is so vulnerable. As currently is, he needs to make a couple errors for his score to be equivalent to other contenders (Ten, Hanyu, Takahashi, Fernandez) if they go clean. And the other main medal contenders aren't consistent competitors either. The competition Chan faces has been getting tougher while Chan's Worlds performances seem to have deteriorated, but as of now, none of the men are consistent.
     
  15. NMURA

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    I have a feeling that Chan won't be given a big lead in the SP even if he skated cleanly so that they can avoid anything scandalous like London worlds. At the Olympics, visible errors are usually more severely punished than other competitions. The atheletes prepare well for the most important event. I think at least 3 of the top contenders deliver satisfiable performances. If Chan's overall performances were like at London worlds (more exactly, anything other than 2011 worlds or 2012 4CC), he could be off the podium.
     
  16. Dilng

    Dilng Well-Known Member

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    :lol: ITA!!
     
  17. Proustable

    Proustable New Member

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    I genuinely believe that Chan is trending downwards and his competitors are trending upwards. Because of that I believe he's a soft favourite at best.
     
  18. TheIronLady

    TheIronLady Well-Known Member

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    Who else thinks jamesy and skateboy just want a French skater in their beds?
     
  19. judgejudy27

    judgejudy27 Well-Known Member

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    It seems alot of people feel Chan will be 2nd or 3rd. However I am pretty sure that isnt the case. I have a feeling he will either win gold or be 4th or 5th and right out of the medals. I dont think it will be something in between.

    Surprised to see such a huge number of votes for an American man to medal. One cant tell who the voters are referring to but I have a hard time seeing any of the current potential U.S men- headcase Abbott, low PCS Aaron, old Lysacek, coming anywhere near a medal of any color in Sochi.
     
  20. OKAERINKO

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    My picks are Kozuka,Brown,and Brezina with all seriousness;):hat1::swoon:
     
  21. misskarne

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    I would be curious to see the breakdown of that American vote and see who's actually voting for who. The only realistic option is Aaron who, if he does five quads, is definitely a medal contender, regardless of what some think of his artistry.
     
  22. judgejudy27

    judgejudy27 Well-Known Member

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    Well if Aaron does 5 quads it is very hard to see him not medalling. It would have to be a lights out event for that to happen (Fernandez with 3 quads, Chan with 2 quads, would probably both beat him). He could even win. I just dont see 5 quads from anyone as very likely for obvious reasons. It is a believe it when I see it sort of thing for me.
     
  23. Li'Kitsu

    Li'Kitsu Well-Known Member

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    Didn't Fernandez say he wanted to go for 2 quads in the SP too? Given how consistent his quads are, and how he pulled out the 3-quad LP more than once, I think he could get the 5 quads down. Hanyu thought about doing 3 quads in the LP, but as of now, it seems he'll keep his last seasons layout (which, if he's clean, would likely still be enough to beat 5 quad Aaron).

    Aaron has a shoot at a medal, though I'd consider him a dark horse by now (which might change next season). Actually, I think both Farris and Brown have an outside shoot too if they make the team, but if course that's hard to say now.
     
  24. Zokko!

    Zokko! Comansnala?

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    At least I hope the judges are finally aware what will happen at an Olympic tournament if they let this certain usual arrogant, usual sloppy, usual full-of-himself Canadian skater become even Top Three, like they used to do in the past, even better and "very well", ... it's probably the end of of Olympic Figure Skating history at all ... :slinkaway
     
  25. judgejudy27

    judgejudy27 Well-Known Member

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    You are right on all. Fernandez with 5 quads would crush Aaron with 5 if both skate well. Chan and Hanyu with 3 would almost certainly beat Aaron with 5 too if they skate reasonably well.

    I agree on Farris possibly, not on Brown (could surprise and make the team but not a contender if he does). I dont give Abbott or Lysacek any chance whatsoever even if one makes the team.
     
  26. Skittl1321

    Skittl1321 Well-Known Member

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    I think if Aaron shows up with 5 quads and having worked hard on his components, he could get a bronze. It is a huge long shot though. But he had no international experience before this year, so I do think that held him down just a bit, I'm interested to see if judges give him higher scores as GP comes up. I still can't believe it is his GP debut, having been top 10 at World's.

    However, this might be one of the most challenging group of men. It seems like 10 of them easily have a chance at a medal. (Maybe 3 or 4 have a chance at winning.)
     
  27. judgejudy27

    judgejudy27 Well-Known Member

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    There will probably be mistakes so Aaron with 5 quads skating cleanly would have a decent shot at a medal, but he still wouldnt control his own destiny even then IMO. It will be interesting to see if his PCS improve this season.
     
  28. RockTheTassel

    RockTheTassel Well-Known Member

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    I agree with all who don't think Chan is a lock for the OGM or even the podium. I think all of the attention over the past few years (both negative and positive) may have worn him down.

    That being said, I would really love to see him be brilliant at the Olympics and wouldn't completely rule out the possibility. It isn't really fair to compare it to Vancouver either. He was just beginning to gain momentum in 2010 and didn't have nearly the amount of experience he has now. Not that 2014 will be easier, but it is different.

    I definitely think he's a possible spoiler, and I'd love to at least see him make the team. I hope Takahashi comes back strong as well.