Discussion in 'Great Skate Debate' started by Iceman, Jun 27, 2011.
OK. per Hersh's article, it really isn't certain that he is committed. He has a wait-and-see attitude and will make a final decision later this Summer. But, the article mentions that he is back and training w/ FC
thx breh good news!!
i am thrilled. for mirai. here in her rink is the sterling example of the dedication frank carroll himself said mirai sought to emulate
Wish Evan good luck on his summer training. Based on his spectacular performances in SOI, I think he'll have a successful comeback.
if it doesn't pan out, perhaps he's like to try pairs? I bet he could lift Caitlyn no problemo
This makes me really happy....For Mirai I want her to be World Champion this year, I hope training with Evan amps her up like during the Olympic season.
Finally, a reason to watch men's skating again! SO excited.
I feel like Michael Scott from The Office when he realized Toby came back from Costa Rica
I'm happy for Evan, hope he can make a successful comeback, but I'm even happier for Mirai - it can't be anything but a positive influence for Nagasu to have Lysacek training there again.
I'd happily bet money on him not actually competing again.
I mean look at the protocols from the Men's competition at 2011 Worlds. The bar has been raised a lot and Evan never had a consistent quad.
From Philip Hersh's article: "While Lysacek told Carroll he wanted to wait until the fall to decide whether he actually would compete at Skate America, the coach thinks it is likely." "Knowing Evan, of course he will," Carroll said. "Once he makes up his mind to do something, he does it."
I know I wrote that Olympic champions competing is something I like but he really adds nothing contributes nothing and is all about celebrating jump regression in mens skating
Exactly. Chan would have to fall 5 times to lose to a clean Evan at this point. Evan had his window to possibly be on top in 2009-2010 and took it in flying colors and got out at the perfect time. I dont see him giving up his comfort now as the Superstar on Stars on Ice to train to return on an aging beat up body and maybe fight for a bronze medal.
Until he's in the K&C at Skate America, I won't believe it.
Another article by Mr. Hersh:
What can I say, it seems that he really wants to compete so I wish him good luck.
Watch the world team be Lysacek/Mroz or something equally zzzzzzzz worthy.
I´m very happy if Evan is indeed coming back, WOW!!! And I think he has a very realistic attitude, he just very much has missed competing:
I wonder who is the other athlete mentioned in the article who wanted to train with Frank C.?
I don't get it - if Evan is thinking of coming back, what is he thinking of doing with his Stars on Ice contract? He can't just blow it off - it's a contract. While SOI allowed for his schedule when he was doing that DWTS program, that has national exposure here in the US and they probably figured would augment ticket sales. The GP does nothing for ticket sales here so how does it work, or are his assignments spaced so that he could do them and not miss any SOI shows?
Last year, the SOI production finalized cast contracts just a few weeks before the November premier show. Evan is going to make the decision at the end of summer, which would give him enough time on whether he will participate in the 2011-12 SOI tour or not.
Oh, my understanding is that he is on a multi-year contract with SOI. Only some folks are on year-to-year and I'm pretty sure Evan is not one of those people but...
from the article:
"Another skater recently had asked Carroll about training with him. The coach would not take that skater if Lysacek wanted to try to compete again, so Carroll told Lysacek he needed to make a decision by mid-June."
There are probably lots of guys who would love to work with Frank, but my guess is Adam Rippon. He's in direct competition with Evan for making the Worlds team and was looking for a coach recently.
Oh, then it is a completely different matter. Your worry is justified.
I usually enjoy a good comeback, but this makes me hope that Evan does go ahead and retire. I know it's not about taking turns, but Evan has already won the big titles and doesn't have a realistic chance to win them again. I'd rather see new talent get the opportunity to train with Carroll.
It's Evan's decision though, and if he does stay, I hope he enjoys competing and continues to have a positive influence on Mirai. That was the first thing I thought of when I read this, and it appears several other posters did too.
It makes sense to retire on a "high". Common sense. But to each his own. I'd rather see Plushy stay retired than Evan.
Why do you think that Evan would have a multi-year contrct? I would think that, after Sarah Hughes's one season, SOI would not presume on the "reigning OGM" status, but would give a one year contract to see how he worked out.
Because I heard at the time that it was a multi-year contract (at least 4 years) and the person who told me would know - that could be in error but I doubt it. Given his history and work ethic, I doubt that anyone would think Evan would go the Sarah Hughes route. Sarah was an exception - SOI traditionally gives the new OGM a multi-year contract and except for Sarah's decline, I don't believe that it has ever worked out that badly for them. Just using Sarah as a model would be very near-sighted and they have deep experience with their champions (US and otherwise) and headliners. Beyond that, a new US OGM has the considerable leverage to negotiate a multi-year contract and that's security. For SOI to ask a newly minted OGM to 'try out' for a year is an insult that no producer would even think of throwing at talent they wanted and needed.
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