Local idioms

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  1. znachki

    znachki Active Member

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    I had that happen to me in Northern Ireland once. We were having dinner at a little place in Larne. I knew that the people at the next table were speaking English, but I couldn't understand more than a word here or there.

    Also, in Scotland & Ireland, I was asked more than once if I was from Australia - and I'm from Seattle - home to those who have possibly the nearest to "dictionary" pronounciation in the US.
  2. cruisin

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    Thanks for those! The second one especially. ALl of the pronunciation is spot on, I could hear my husband and his family. Can't tease them for the unusual pronunciation or grammar, they get :mad:! I can tease my husband though. My favorite is when he asks me to make him some aegs. Eggs, but pronounced with a long A instead of a short e. He gets ribbed for that from all of us!

    Bungaloos or bungalos. We have small cottages here that are refered to as bungalos. Usually bungalos are the little cottages that are part of older resorts in the Poconos or the Catskills. but we have them around here too. This area used to be a vacation area - fresh air - for NYC dwellers, back in the '40s.
  3. skatingfan5

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    I say "aigs" (or "aygs") when I'm talking about what hens lay -- however, when it is the verb "egg", I pronounce it with the short e. :shuffle:
    I've always seen it as "bungalow" although I think that might be a derivation from "bungalo." Here in the midwest it's most often used to refer to a small one-story (or 1-1/2 story) house in a residential area -- not necessarily as part of a resort of any kind. I guess what is considered a bungalow varies a bit, depending on the geographic region.
  4. Prancer

    Prancer The "specialness" that is Staff Member

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    Really? I've never heard that before. I'm not even sure what dictionary pronunciation is :confused:.
  5. skatingfan5

    skatingfan5 Well-Known Member

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    Perhaps by "dictionary pronunciation" in the U.S. znachki means what is called "General American" or "Standard American English" accent? That is, a pronunciation that is distinguished from more regional accents (i.e. Southern, New England, etc.)? Think "generic network news broadcaster" accent.
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  6. Artemis@BC

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    My cousin in Manchester has a family cottage in Wales that they call "the bung." :lol:
  7. Lucy25

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    Born and raised in South Eastern Michigan and never heard of "bubbler". We drink from the water or drinking fountain. We also drink "pop", wear "tennis shoes", and play in the "basement". Also, it seems that everyone I have ever known goes "up north" to their "cabin" many times during the year. "Up north" is really anywhere more northern than where you (Michigander) live. Last summer I held a garage sale. A family came and told me they were up north for just a few weeks at their cabin. I live thirty miles north of Detroit, yet this was up north to this family who lived on the Ohio/Michigan border. Their "cabin" was a two story house a mile or so away from my house. Never considered my suburban neighborhood up north! "Cabins" can be any architectural style and can be huge or tiny.
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  8. Prancer

    Prancer The "specialness" that is Staff Member

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    Yes, but:

    The General American accent is most closely related to a generalized Midwestern accent and is spoken particularly by many newscasters

    Last time I checked, Seattle was not in the Midwest.

    Of all the American accents, the Midwestern accent is the easiest on the ear, which is why newscasters and actors use it.

    But pronunciation is a little different from accent.
  9. cruisin

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    Isn't that a slang word for anus? Yikes! :lol:

    Funny, my husband and I were on vacation several years ago. We met this other couple who guessed my husband's from western PA, right off the bat. Then they asked me what part of the mid-west I was from. I said mid-north-western NJ. They didn't believe me. Even when I showed them my DL, they siad I might live here now, but I didn't grow up there. I actually had my birth certificate with me, so I proved it. :lol: The guy was flabbergasted, apparently he considers himself an accent expert. I guess not. :)
  10. skatingfan5

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    No, it isn't but from the same wiki entry:
    Seattle is in the Pacific Northwest, at least it was the last time I was there. :shuffle:

    And it seems that I grew up in "the area of the United States where the local accent is most similar to General American" (the Illinois part of the Quad Cities). People used to tell me that I should be a radio broadcaster because of my voice, but whenever I hear a recording of it, I think I don't sound "General American" enough -- a bit too flat, or something.
    I suppose it is, but given the context of znachki's post, I thought that accent was most likely what was being observed.
  11. Susan1

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    I think of basements as places where you can actually do things - like with an extra bedroom and/or bathroom or a t.v. or pool table or something like that. And a cellar as somplace you store things, where you only go to the cellar to put things away or bring them back up to the main part of the house. ??
  12. Susan1

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    Try it on toast -- it doesn't stick to the roof of your mouth and teeth as much!!!!!
  13. Prancer

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    Indeed, but why would Seattle dwellers have the best version of a Midwestern accent? :huh:

    Most Midwesterners hear themselves and are :yikes: at how flat and nasal they sound, but that's actually what makes the accent the easiest on the ears.
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    ”New West Overshoe” ‘round heah.

    that’d be “up Nawth” in my neck of the woods.

    A mannerism that’s hard to explain. Usually you’ll hear it from older residents in response to a question, a quick intake of breath whilst saying “yeah."

    Anybody have a root cellar? In NE that was a section of the basement that had a dirt floor and was used to store...wait for it...root veggies, and the rows of mason jars contained preserved foods that had been “put up” for the winter.
  15. Susan1

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    Not just NYC! I've heard that on t.v. shows for the last few years. And I will say to the t.v. ".....me".
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    That's where my dad stores his homemade wine. He calls it the bodega; my mom calls it the root cellar.
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    I'm sorry - I'm commenting separately as I'm reading along - and repeating some of the previous comments - so it someone's mentioned this one already............is that like B.F.E.: Bum F*** Egypt ????? :-0

    Side story, my cousin's roommate in college's high school age sister was talking to her mom about someplace "out in the boonies" and she started to say BFE (not the initials), realized who she was talking to, and what she couldn't say, so as she opened her mouth, East Jebip (don't ask me how to spell it - that's how it sounds) came out. So we always call someplace far away East Jebip.
  18. Susan1

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    Many, many years ago, I was on the phone with someone in New York and he said I had a midwestern accent (excuse me, a New Yorker saying *I* had an accent?). Anyway, I said Ohio's the only state that doesn't have ANY accent! ha ha ha
  19. znachki

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    Yep - no regional accent of any kind. If you pressed the little "pronounciation" button in an online dictionary - that's what we sound like.
  20. Jenny

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    I haven't been to the Pacific Northwest, but I've spent a lot of time all over California, and that's where I find American English the most "generic." Makes sense given the fact that with few exceptions, everyone is from somewhere else, so a common accent and pronunciation evolves.
  21. cruisin

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    I've heard East Jebib lots of times, along with booies, boons, Outer Mongolia, middle of nowhere, all expressions that are used here.

    :lol: Anyone who sounds different has an accetn to the one they sound different to :).

    I told my husband about this conversation, last night. Busted him bout saying aig for egg and laig for leg. Yet he says bed correctly. The funny thing is that he doesn't hear that he is saying aig any differently from bed.
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    I say laig for leg and aig for egg. Sometimes I feel like here in WNY/ southern tier we are accent mutts. We get a little of the mid western, a little Ontario, a tiny bit rural PA... Although newscasters sound a lot like me too, so maybe we aren't so bad.
  23. Aceon6

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    We joke that folks from central CT get neutral accents, too - Boston and NYC cancel each other out.
  24. cruisin

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    It's not bad, I just like to tease my husband :lol:

    When I'm around a very strong NY/LI accent, I do pick it up. But, I usually sound more mid-west/newscaster.
  25. Nan

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    If you were to go out to see "Star Wars: Episode 1," would you say you were going to see a movie or a show? Those born and raised in southern Illinois all seem to say "show," while the transplants say "movie."
  26. Jenny

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    That's one that was the difference between the city and a small town in my experience. I grew up in a big city and always said movies; when my family moved to a very small town, one of the first things I noticed was kids saying they were "going to the show." I remember wondering if they were talking about a play or review of some kind, and finding out quickly they were referring to the town's only movie theatre.

    Later, when I went back to the city to go to college, my college friends used to tease me about having a heavy Canadian (aka not urban) accent.
  27. cruisin

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    For me, a movie is a movie. A show is a live play or concert. My mom used to call all videos movies, including videos of family events. She would ask to watch "John's movie", meaning the video of "John's" birthday/hockey game/graduation/etc. It drove me crazy :lol: I never knew what she wanted to watch.
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    Agreed, from a small-town Texas gal.
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    But a TV show is a show. Even a radio show . . . although you can't actually "show" anything on the radio
  30. Jenny

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    Originally, radio shows were performed live for the most part, so maybe that's where that comes from? And tv?

    For movies, it's more likely a throwback to a "showing" of Gone with the Wind or the like.
  31. znachki

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    Since I woudn't go see that, the subject is moot!:cool:

    Actually, I'd say movie, but if asked what time, I'd say the 1:30 show.

    If I were going to a play, I might say "the show at the 5th Avenue Theater", especially since it's a musical, although I might say play or show if going to a legitimate play (and don't you love the connotation behind "legitimate" theater, versus what goes on at a musical!).
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    I've never heard anyone call anything on radio a show; it was always a radio program where I came from.
  33. skatingfan5

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    Or could be an shortening of the old-time term of "picture show" for movies (aka "motion pictures"). Also, in the past, many of the movie theatres also were theatres with actual live on-stage performances (including plays, vaudeville shows, concerts). There is still one of those large movie theatres here in my town, complete with a Wurlitzer organ. There are monthly showings of classic movies sponsored by the local park district and quite a few live performances, too. Its capacity is around 1500 and during the annual Ebertfest (film festival), it is filled to capacity, all the way up to the last row in the balcony.
  34. cruisin

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    Hmmm, good point. I have no explanation better than what's already been proposed :)
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    My coworker says "antsies in your pantsies". But that might just be her being weird. :lol:

    My college roommate was half-Japanese and whenever she went to family reunions in California, they referred her a "hapa" (half-Japanese). Here half-Asians are frequently referred to as "Wasians".
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    "Up north" is really anywhere more northern than where you (Michigander) live.

    As a fellow Southeastern Michigan resident, we considered "Up North" anywhere north of Saginaw/Bay City. However if you come from the Ohio border area, I can imagine Pontiac being "up north". Have also been in "cabins" ranging from one room to 3000 square feet. I think to be a cabin it must be in the woods or on a lake.
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    I went through a toll booth once in Boston and was asked for a "cattah". I had to ask the man to repeat himself three times before he finally said twenty five cents. :confused::confused::confused:

    A quarter :eek: :lol:

    Definitely something I say, even to this day. "I'm going to Target, wanna come with?"

    I say "laig" and "aig" sometimes, if I'm talking fast or for emphasis.

    Another one that I just remembered is how my mom says for the middle of nowhere: "East Jahunga" :rofl:
  38. Artemis@BC

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    Funny, until this thread I'd completely forgotten we used to call it "going to the show" when I was growing up. And yes, it was a small town, and yes, there was only one movie theatre in town.

    AKA a "hoser accent." :lol:

    Of course we'd never call it "going to college," it's "going to university." Unless you were going to the local community or regional college, then it would be "going to the college." But now almost all of the former colleges in the provinces have become universities, so "going to college" is rarely uttered.
  39. Jenny

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    When I was in college, Bob and Doug McKenzie were all the rage, so my city friends said I sounded like them :lol:
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