Little Girls Dancing; Too Young to 'Put a Ring on It'?

Discussion in 'Off The Beaten Track' started by soxxy, May 15, 2010.

  1. soxxy

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    The girls are 8 and 9 year-olds. I think they're talented, but it's all a bit too much, IMO. Then again, I'm not a parent.

    The dance:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dc6u92boyw

    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfmoms/detail?entry_id=63572&type=moms

    Uh, mom, the girls likely saw more than just the chimpmunk 'Squeakquel' movie.
  2. Norlite

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    When my daughter was 5 (she's 27 now) , her dance class did a number in the annual recital to "Papa Don't Preach"


    I was a little surprised at her dance teacher's choice, but no other parent said a word that I'm aware of.
  3. MOIJTO

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    To much? Uh! Yeah! But its what advertising and marketing breeds! Of course a parent needs to be a parent and I am sure the parents of these girls are as befuddled by the marketing too!
  4. soxxy

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    Hmmm, 1988-ish. Do you remember what they wore?

    "I made up my mind, I'm keeping my baby!" Did they hold dolls? The mind reels. :lol:
  5. tarotx

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    I do find that they are sexualizing these young girls. They do it at all these type events-rather it be a pageant or dance competition. Imo It's pretty much because the adults are living their own dreams though their daughters. AND because the young girls see the glam of the adults they are imitating and they think it's all shiny and pretty.
  6. PDilemma

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    Beyonce's video for this features less skimpy attire and less suggestive movement.

    This is disturbing. They are dressed like and dancing like strippers. And the parents who think it is okay need some help.
  7. Norlite

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    There wore a lot more than these girls. Leotards, tights and a skirt.

    No, no dolls. But OMG if they had :lol:
  8. Kruss

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    I think it's disgusting. I don't care what the girls are aware of and what they're not aware of - this is way too mature for little girls. And I don't care what little kids are exposed to, whether it be in the past or now - doesn't make it right. This is akin to the little girl pagents where they all dress/dance like Vegas showgirls, IMO.
  9. PrincessLeppard

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    I think if the outfits hadn't been so.....slutty.....there wouldn't be as much outrage. There are a couple of questionable moves, but with a cuter, less revealing costumes, they wouldn't stand out so much.
  10. Karina1974

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    I attended a dance school for 12 years (1986-1998), and I never remember any of the parents being allowed to, or trying to, call the shots on the competition group numbers. The solo competition routines, maybe, and I wouldn't know because those are worked in in private lessons only, but not the groups.
  11. tarotx

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    I have close friends whose children do competition dance and two nieces who used to do these competitions so I know parents have some influence but I was talking about the adults creating the routines and selecting the costumes.
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    Horrible!! Just..terrible!
  13. Auntie

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    I remember watching a dance recital when my children were little. One of the more accomplished high school girls did a verrry suggestive solo to "All that Jazz". My friend said to me "Oh joy, look what we have forward to. We pay for ten years of dance lessons, costumes, competitions, etc. and then we can watch our daughters dance like strippers in front of all our friends." :scream:
  14. skatemommy

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    I agree the gyrations are too much and the costumes look like street walkers. Shame on this instructor. I wonder how she taught them some of that stuff?
  15. Wyliefan

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    That's about the size of it, unfortunately.
  16. lise

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    considering that they are marketing a bra at girls at the age of 6 these days, nothing surprises me.
  17. IceKween

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    Yep, WAY too suggestive. The hip rolls at the end were blatantly sexual. Combined with the costuming, it was in totally bad taste. Had they worn less revealing outfits with tights I'd be more okay with this.

    They are all really good dancers. Just not liking that pedophiles could watch this and get off to it. It's right up their alley. Gross.
  18. genevieve

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    My dance company used to go back and do an annual concert at the home town of one of the dancers. We would perform with all these kids aged 5-18. I remember watching the high school age girls doing a really raunchy performance to "Pour Some Sugar on Me" and someone commenting "Their parents must be so happy about all the money they've spent on dance lessons when they watch this." :lol: We also thought it was obvious that the girls didn't have the slightest idea what made the moves so sexy.

    For this group of obviously much younger girls, I think the moves are fine - some of the booty shaking is a bit skeevy on girls that young, but those are valid hip hop moves at this point. The costumes are what make this really squicky IMO. I don't think there would be the same level of outrage if they'd been wearing full leotards with equally short skirts, minus the burlesque decorations.
  19. KikiSashaFan

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    I agree with everyone who has said that the costumes are the worst part. A different outfit would have made a huge difference. It's too bad really, they're all very good dancers.
  20. Dr.Siouxs

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    really talented girls! :eek: eys, the costumes were a bit in bad taste...
  21. shan

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    Icky all the way around -- valid moves or not. Some of the expressions on their faces were a bit creepy too.
  22. Glide2

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    I agree. It's the outfits. :rolleyes: But the audience at the performance seemed to be responding to the girls attitude and confidence and not the costumes. On one entertainment show they had a video of a different dance performance by the girls in plainer outfits. It allowed the viewer to focus on the dance instead the vivid, odd costume.
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    I found it disturbing to watch the little girls do hip gyrations and shoulder thrusts. One of the last moves they did was the girls squating and thrusting their hips forward. Ick.
  24. PDilemma

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    Yeah...that bit at the end. The outfits are only part of the problem here.
  25. Beefcake

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    What's the uproar? Whoever created this routine should be commended for teaching little girls about saving themselves for marriage! :saint: Now if the lyrics were "if you want it, better put a $50 on it [the nightstand]", that'd be a different story.

    But, seriously, yes it made me feel a bit pervy. Those girls were fantastic dancers, though, for their age.
  26. Prancer

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    You know, people always say this, but I thought that what attracts pedophiles is innocence and childishness and not "mature" behavior. They are attracted to children, not to short, undeveloped adults.

    Otherwise, not surprised by any of it. But I've been to some dance recitals and cheerleading competitions and fashion shows in the past few years, and while it's all kinda out there on the fringes, it's not all that different. The hip and shoulder bits at the end are right out of the video, as are other bits and pieces. If you send a little girl to hip hop dance classes, that's the kind of thing they learn.
  27. Lacey

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    Oh my holy bananas, I'm going to encourage my granddaughter to do something other than her dance class, just in case it is headed in this direction. Other than not liking the content, I think these particular girls can actually dance quite well, in fact, spectacularly, and I am surprised that they are this flexible at such a young age.
  28. numbers123

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    It is up to the parent to voice concerns. My niece was in hip hop, tap, ballet classes at a young age. She was talented, tall for her age and in classes with older girls. When the teacher wanted the girls to wear lots of make-up to look older, sister put her foot down and said no. Also had some input to the costume design.
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    If the blond girl who's in the middle at the end of the video didn't have the slightest idea of what made the moves so sexy, then she's the best imitator I've ever seen. Were there no age limitation, she could fit into any pro cheerleading team.
  30. allezfred

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    Hideous costumes and tragic makeup aside, I don't see the problem. The girls are really talented dancers.
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    Pedophiles would get off at this regardless of what the girls are wearing.

    That said, I've been told this type of attire is normal at dance competitions. I wouldn't know because I've never been to one. The fact is that it would be "more appropriate" if their midriffs were covered. Yes, I understand the need to show body line but a leotard would have sufficed. At the same time, excuse my ignorance, but do little girls even have definitive body lines (ie: leg lines) of adult dancers at such a young age? I figure you develop that as you get older.
  33. The Accordion

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    I agree with everyone who has said that with different costumes it just wouldn't be that bad since the moves would not come across as nearly as sexual.
    At the same time - those costumes combined with different moves and music would not be as bad either.
    Such a shame since the girls are quite fantastic.
  34. bobalina77

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    Well.. they're dressed like mini Pussy Cat Dolls, and they move their hips better than I do. It is a little disturbing.

    That said they are amazing little dancers.
  35. cruisin

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    This is rare, but I agree with you here. :lol:

    The outfits are awful, and I agree with those who have said that if the outfits were not so skimpy, probably no one would have a problem with the dance. I can say that sometimes, with dance studios they re-use outfits for routines. These could have been used before with older girls and they just didn't want to spend money on new ones. Not only were they rather tacky and inappropriate, they really didn't even capture the mood of the dance. But I've seen just as bad or worse on young Ice Dancers.

    The girls are amazingly talented. This was a family and friends concert, not sure how it wound up on the internet, and while I dislike the outfits, I don't think this deserves all of the public outrage it's getting.
  36. Satellitegirl

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    Take away the hip thrusts and give them new costumes and it would have been better. they're obviously very talented. It's a shame, and the teachers know better.
  37. Holley Calmes

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    That made me physically ill.

    If they had been the senior girls, it would still have made me ill.

    I guess because I am the marketing director for a serious dance non-profit, I see this kind of stuff as so unbearably trashy and getting these kids nowhere in the dance world. The choreography they were doing was not really that challenging. Everybody's got flexibility these days from the age of 5, and this type of pseudo contemporary-pop moves employ a lot more energy than technique. Put them in a real contemporary class, or a real modern class, or a real ballet class, and we'll see if they are getting what they need. Looks like their next step at this studio is pole dancing class.

    This is what happens when the lower-end of the competition circuit gets attention. These poor babies! They are being terribly sexualized at too young an age. There's also a difference between "sexy," "alluring," and "provacative" as opposed to being just trash. This is trash. There's nothing wrong with sexy on the right age dancer in the right way. Sexy can be classy.

    I feel better now. But not for those poor children.
  38. Rob

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    That is horrible, and I couldn't even watch the whole thing. Even if they are talented. But I agree with Holley, when young dancers focus on performing and not on technique, they can develop bad habits. Put them in a proper class with some brief age appropriate performing.

    I have a friend who has a ballet school and she had very good technique when she was a dancer. But the parents want to see performances and they donate money every year for a really big production. Nice sets and costumes and everything is age appropriate. But they stop classes mid-year and spend all their time rehearsing for this thing and you see the most god awful bad habits on the younger children - sickled feet, supporting leg turned in while they are trying to force the working leg to turn out too much at that age, etc.
  39. barbk

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    Really unfortunate that the dancer's parents quoted in the article see absolutely nothing wrong with the attire or pelvic thrusts. Probably the same kind of folks who when their daughter gets to middle school will see nothing wrong with hugely inappropriate clothing at school either. Not sure what it will be by then, but a half dozen years ago we had a 6th grader with high thong underwear sticking up in the back above jeans cut impossibly low in the front -- her parents couldn't understand what was wrong with that as school attire either.
  40. Stormy

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    I agree. The costumes were awful, but they are great dancers. Are those girls wearing outfits like that to school? I doubt it. You cannot correlate a dance routine to how those girls act in real life. It's completely ridiculous for anyone to assume their parents would let them wear hugely inappropriate clothing in school. You don't know that. I just don't see a problem with this. It's just a dance routine.