Let's Talk Movies v.20! (Period Dramas, Skating Movies, Underrated Films...& More!)

Discussion in 'Off The Beaten Track' started by PeterG, Aug 29, 2012.

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Which Of These Movies Interest You? (Vote For As Many As You Like)

  1. Sep. 14th - Resident Evil: Retribution (Sci-Fi adventure with Milla Jovovich and Michelle Rodriguez)

    6 vote(s)
    10.7%
  2. Sep. 21st - The Perks of Being a Wallflower (Drama with Emma Watson, Dylan McDermott and Paul Rudd)

    17 vote(s)
    30.4%
  3. Sep. 28th – Looper (Sci-Fi action with Joseph Gordon-Levitt, Bruce Willis and Emily Blunt)

    19 vote(s)
    33.9%
  4. Sep. 28th - Won't Back Down (Drama with Viola Davis, Maggie Gyllenhaal and Holly Hunter)

    10 vote(s)
    17.9%
  5. Oct. 5th - Pitch Perfect (Musical comedy with Anna Kendrick, Rebel Wilson and Brittany Snow)

    18 vote(s)
    32.1%
  6. Oct. 5th - Butter (Comedy with Jennifer Garner, Hugh Jackman and Alicia Silverstone)

    6 vote(s)
    10.7%
  7. Oct. 26th - Cloud Atlas (Sci-Fi mystery with Tom Hanks, Hugh Grant, Halle Berry and Jim Sturgess)

    18 vote(s)
    32.1%
  8. Nov. 2nd - Flight (Drama with Denzel Washington, Don Cheadle and Melissa Leo)

    12 vote(s)
    21.4%
  9. Nov. 9th - Skyfall (Adventure with Daniel Craig, Judi Dench, Ralph Fiennes and Javier Bardem)

    24 vote(s)
    42.9%
  10. Nov. 16th The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn – Part 2 (Kristen Stewart and Robert Pattinson)

    7 vote(s)
    12.5%
  11. Nov. 21st - Life of Pi (Adventure drama with Tobey Maguire and Gérard Depardieu)

    19 vote(s)
    33.9%
  12. Nov. 21st - Red Dawn (Action with Chris Hemsworth, Josh Hutcherson and Jeffrey Dean Morgan)

    10 vote(s)
    17.9%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. PeterG

    PeterG Argle-Bargle-ist

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    Some movies I've watched lately:

    7/10 Frozen (2010, Shawn Ashmore, Kevin Zegers) – This one I really wanted to see, ever since it was in the theatres. Finally found it at the Vancouver Library. It’s got all the stupid pitfalls of a thriller movie, but it’s a fun popcorn-type of movie. I do wish people who make movies like this would have a read-through of the script with a bunch of friends and play, “where’s the clichés?” (and then iron out all those bugs). There aren’t AWFUL problems with the script, just some stupid stuff done by the characters. I guess those kinds of actions help build suspense though, so you just kind of have to go with it.

    6/10 Strangers On A Train (1951, Farley Granger, Robert Walker) – I would have rated this one higher, but it had one of the most stupid movie endings of all time!
    The prime suspect in a murder is allowed to walk simply because the guy he says did it is holding that prime suspect’s lighter in his hand? Oh, he must be the murderer – the lighter is in his hand just like Mr. Prime Suspect said he would! Off you go, Prime Suspect, sorry we thought you were the murderer…
    Another :rolleyes: part of the movie is the somewhat campy nature of the evil guy. Yes Old Hollywood, we get it,
    fags are bad…
    :rolleyes:

    6/10 The Innocents (1961, Deborah Kerr) - Ben Mankiewicz hosted this on TCM and said that it flopped when it was released. It was probably too high-quality for the masses! :D I suppose I should give it a higher rating than 6/10 but this is about the fourth movie of late that I have seen with an ambigious ending. I’m sick and tired of the pretentious bullshit of writer/directors, who, on the DVD extras spout out, “what do YOU think happened/how do YOU think it ended?” Stop being a lazy ass and write the ending, dammit. I don’t want a freaking college English class discussion on the meaning of the movie, I just want you to tell me a story. An ENTIRE story, not one that’s missing it’s final chapter. :soapbox:

    5/10 Lockout (2010, Guy Pearce, Maggie Grace) – If I was a 14 year old straight boy I would have given this a 10/10. I think they were successful in making the movie they wanted to, but there was a lot of stupid stuff in this movie! :lol: The CGI was uber-fake at times, but I think maybe they wanted it to look like a video game however. But Guy Pearce looks buff and purdy in a roughed out way. And Maggie Grace reprises her young damsel in distress act from the “Taken” movies. Poor kid, you shoulda behaved on the set of Lost and kept that job. :p

    5/10 Miracle of Morgan’s Creek (1944, Betty Hutton and Eddie Bracken, written and directed by Preston Sturgess) – This is one that I read about recently in Entertainment Weekly, they made it sound wondrously cheeky in its’ subversiveness. Meh…not so much. Watched almost the whole thing at double-time. Hutton was a peach in this one, though. :40beers:

    5/10 The Wind (1928, silent film with Lillian Gish) – I’ve only seen about three silent films in my life, and since this one included Lillian Gish, I thought I’d give it a go. It’s pretty decent considering when it was made. I watched almost the whole thing in double-double-time, so it only took about half an hour to watch. :D Lars Hanson was quite handsome in this! :grope:
  2. Rex

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    Hitchock's homophobia is on great display in Rebecca as well. It is implied that Mrs. Danvers had a serious girlcrush on Rebecca. And that creepy scene with the second Mrs. DeWinter in Rebecca's old bedroom - WTF? That's why she had to be punished. :rolleyes:
  3. falling_dance

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    In fairness to Hitchcock, the Daphne du Maurier novel gave one plenty to work with, as far as that went. You could argue that "Danny" won in the end, anyway, even in the film (though the author of the article I linked to doesn't go that far).
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  4. Vash01

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    I am reading the book 'The best exotic Marigold hotel' and really enjoying it. I had planned on seeing this movie but it lasted in a local theater just one week. Did anyone see the movie? I am curious to know if it was good, funny, and well acted? How faithful was it to the book (the last question is for those who read the book).
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    PeterG: The Innocents is an adaptation of Henry James' The Turn of the Screw IIRC, and if I also remember correctly from when I had to read that in high school, The Turn of the Screw is somewhat ambiguous as to what really happened.
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  6. PeterG

    PeterG Argle-Bargle-ist

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    :soapbox:

    Take Shelter was another one I watched recently which had an amibiguous ending. Meek's Cutoff? Who know what happened? Then last night I watched Vanishing on 7th Street with my Mom. Now, my Mom hates swearing, but when it ended, she almost said, "what the f*** was THAT about???" I'm starting to think that screenwriters don't know how to end their movie, and the solution is to "allow the viewer to make their own choice". BULLCRAP. I was too old for the "Choose Your Own Adventure" books, but whoever read those books outgrew them and moved on to material which had a beginning, a middle and an end. Stop being so lazy and finish your work before you produce it!!! :revenge:
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    I cannot wait to see Argo, Looper, The Master. The reviews coming in from TIFF are fantastic.
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    And Pitch Perfect. Rebel Wilson is AWESOME.
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    I saw the movie and loved it - rate it Very Good. I had not read the book. All the actors were great, as expected. Judi Dench is just amazing. I really enjoyed Tom Wilkinson as well and Dev Patel.
    My brother, who lived in New Delhi for a few years about a decade ago did not like the movie as much as me. He said it was too clean (too Hollywood)!

    I just saw Lawless. It is a well made, well acted movie - well crafted movie. But they needed subtitles - it was really hard in certain parts to know what was said. Also I had not read the book, nor did my buddy. With that and the hard to understand dialogue, we both felt we missed some of the story. It was more grittier to me than the previews. I probably will try to see again once it is on cable to catch more of it.
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    You're right. I tend to think
    the ghosts were real
    , but James really does leave it up in the air.
  11. PeterG

    PeterG Argle-Bargle-ist

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    I've been watching a lot of older movies thanks to TCM. But I have had to embrace the fact that I'm a child of my own generation and really do prefer movies that are coming out this millenium. ;) So I've stopped looking at my TV Guide to see what movies are playing on the movie channels. Instead I'm going to focus on new titles from the library. That said, I saw Adam's Rib this last year and thought it was wonderful. And I just put a hold on Woman of the Year. Oops...so much for only watching new movies! :lol: Well, I guess an exception here and there is okay. (And I do have about 20 to 30 TCM movies on my DVR...)

    So they're doing a sequel? Had no idea the first one did so well! :p

    I haven't seen it, so can't help out. But I find the message boards at imdb.com. Usually I find out what I need to know about a movie when I have questions after seeing it. Well, except for The Vanishing On 7th Street...maybe the answers for that one were there, but I gave up!! :lol: Anyway, here's a link to The Bourne Legacy's message board
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    I watch a lot of new movies as well. But my parents raised me watching the movies they grew up with so I always get the most excited about the classics. Especially when I find a movie with one of my favourites that I haven't seen yet.

    I'm watching The Lion in Winter(1968). It's one of my favourite movies. And I was wondering if anyone on here has seen the TV movie remake with Glenn Close and Patrick Stewart from 2003? I was curious about it but never got around to renting it before Blockbuster closed.
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    I suspect they made many changes to make it like a movie. The book moves slowly, but the humor is great, so it never gets boring. If only my DVD player was not having problems, I would have rented it long ago.
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    I LOVE that movie. Haven't seen the remake, but I can't imagine that Glenn and Patrick could do it any better than Kate and Peter.

    "What family doesn't have its little ups and downs?" :D
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    It (Best Exotic) is not actually out on DVD until later this month - Sept 18 to be precise.

    I haven't read the book but have read others by the same author. I thought they were only meh, and hadn't planned on reading any more by her. But since I enjoyed the movie so much, I probably will read the book at some point.

    BTW I found the movie predictable and formulaic ... but didn't care one bit because I was having so much fun with the characters. So many of my favourite actors on screen at once, I just let it carry me along.
  16. Artemis@BC

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    It's Fringe Festival time here in Vancouver so I've been doing the live thing ... but still managed to get in one movie over the weekend: Ratcatcher. It had been on my to-see list for a while (came out in 1999!) but was bumped up the list when I saw We Need to Talk About Kevin a couple of months ago, by the same director (Lynne Ramsay).

    Anyway, Ratcatcher is sort of social realism about living in the tenements of Glasgow, told from the dreamy point of view of a 12-year-old boy. It's more slice of life than plot driven, and very, very powerful.

    The one thing that bugged me, though, was the subtitles. I can understand putting in subtitles when the dialogue is so heavily accented, the Glaswegian accent is hard to parse and I'm sure a lot of viewers would have a hard time understanding much of the dialogue. However they "translated" rather than "transcribed"! When a character says "Right, that's me done," the subtitles said "All right, that's the end of the line for me." When a character says "Where's me fags?" the subtitles say "Where are my cigarettes." They even translated "wee" to "little" throughout.

    Maybe that happens all the time with French and German and Spanish etc. subtitles, and I'm just not fluent in those languages to be able to tell. But I still found it really annoying, and unnecessary.
  17. galaxygirl

    galaxygirl Ma name's Beckeh

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    Sometimes there is more than one English translation on the disc. I watched The Secret World of Arietty not too long ago. It was originally a Japanese (animated) movie but the dialogue was redone in English for the American release. There were two English subtitle tracks. One was I'm guessing was a translation of the Japanese and the other was a literal transcription of the English dialogue.

    For the subtitles on non-English movies, I'm sure they're paraphrases of a literal translation because literal translations usually aren't going to make sense or, at the very least, will sound 'foreign'.
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  18. Artemis@BC

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    Well sure, when it is actually a translation, you expect it to be logical syntax. (Literal translation of Japanese into English would be pretty funny actually!)

    But in the movie I was referencing, they are talking English, it's just full of local idioms. Like I say, I can understand the subtitles since many people don't have the ear for the accent. I've seen English subtitles in English films before, for heavy Geordie accents, Cockney, etc. But changing the actual dialogue is not only unnecessary in my view, but also insulting. Not to mention changing the flavour of the film. They might as well have dubbed the voices with posh English accents.

    It was particularly annoying because there was no way to turn the subtitles off -- they were imbedded in the video, not optional.
  19. galaxygirl

    galaxygirl Ma name's Beckeh

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    I was responding to the part where you said 'Maybe that happens all the time in French and German... '. I thought you were referring to English subtitles of those languages.
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    Subtitles are almost always paraphrases of the dialogue. One reason is usually the dialogue is more than can be comfortably read in the time allowable, so it's cut down and simplified to communicate what's necessary.
  21. PeterG

    PeterG Argle-Bargle-ist

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    To paraphase (sub-title): JUST THE FACTS! :p
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    Allen Glad to be back!

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    I had this very conversation with a friend when Talk to Her won the Oscar for best screenplay. She kept saying that there was nothing special about the dialogue that she could read on the screen, but I kept trying, unsuccessfully, to convince her that the Spanish dialogue was much richer and more interesting.
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  23. Artemis@BC

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    Brevity was definitely not the objective in this case though. Not when they changed every "wee" to "little," every "fags" to "cigarettes," and every "hen" to "sweetheart." :rolleyes:
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    Jennifer Garner in "Butter" looks like a less-funny imitation of Kirstie Alley in "Drop Dead Gorgeous." :shuffle:

    But :cheer: for "Pitch Perfect!" Lots of good movies coming out this fall/winter...
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    I watched "The Deerhunter" again the other night for maybe the third time. I love the wedding scenes and the heat that DeNiro and Streep generated onscreen. I also thought Chris Walken was fabulous as Nicky. His character was so sweet and innocent and so not ready for Viet Nam. But who was? I loved that they set the story in a Ukrainian town in Pennsylvania. You know I love everything about the movie though some scenes are difficult to watch.
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  26. immoimeme

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    I watched it too, not long ago, and wondered why it won the Oscar for Best Film. I used to know... I guess what I'm saying is, I don't don't think it's held up well over the years, whereas another Cimino film-"Heaven's Gate"-still seems fresh & relevent to me, and yet another Cimino film-"Year of the Dragon"-is still the same friggin' disaster it always was. Shrug.
  27. Cachoo

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    I must admit I've never seen "Heaven's Gate" though I want to see it the way Cimino intended us to see it. That also goes for "Once Upon A Time in America" as I was befuddled when I first saw it and then found out that movie was sliced and diced to pieces. As for "Deer Hunter" I guess it reminded me of a lot of people like them that I know in New Jersey. It rang true to me then and now.
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    Watched Carmen Jones last night. Judy Garland wasn't robbed of the 1954 Oscar...Dorothy Dandridge was. But I guess it was too early to actually award 'Best Actress' to a black woman.
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  30. PeterG

    PeterG Argle-Bargle-ist

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    So if you were to pick a movie to see featuring these couples, who would you choose:

    Richard Gere and Susan Sarandon
    Channing Tatum and Rosario Dawson
    Josh Radnor [How I Met Your Mother] and Elizabeth Olsen
    Lea Thompson and John Shea

    I bet you'd pick the movie pretty much in order of the way I've listed them above. But from the trailers for these movies, the best was...Lea Thompson and John Shea. Seems to have the best script of the four. I was happy to see Richard Gere (along with Susan Sarandon) in a major release, but from the trailer, I thought :yawn: - seen it before...disappointing! :(

    That said, of the non-blockbusters being released this week only the last one ("After") is going on my To See list. I love those kinds of movies and it only made my list because of the very end of the trailer (the rest of it seemed much too talky). I almost adding The Waiting Game documentary to my list, but the trailer needed to do a little bit more for me to make me give it a chance.

    Here's this week's new movie releases:

    Sep 12 Francine (Drama with Melissa Leo)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8g26svrseo

    Sep 14 Arbitrage (Dramatic thriller with Richard Gere, Susan Sarandon and Tim Roth)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PreDvXFAoNU

    Sep 14 10 Years (Romantic comedy with Channing Tatum, Rosario Dawson and Justin Long)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-k5y4bLU5X4

    Sep 14 Elephant White (aka Bangkok Revenge – action thriller with Djimon Hounsou and Kevin Bacon)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0ehGzrF8T8

    Sep 14 Liberal Arts (Comedy drama with Josh Radnor, Elizabeth Olsen, Allison Janney, Richard Jenkins and Zac Efron)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqIuv_JX5wM

    Sep 14 The Trouble With The Truth (Drama with Lea Thompson and John Shea)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nftNSEexUXU

    Sep 14 The Waiting Room (Documentary. From imdb.com: “Go behind the doors of an American public hospital struggling to care for a community of largely uninsured patients.”
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GVArrNT7MI

    Sep 14 After (Thriller with Steven Strait)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2zwe-SO6rg
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    Awww just found out Susan Tyrell died in June. I loved her in Flesh + Blood which is actually one of my favourite movies of all time. It is so B-Grade and delicious fun. Tyrell was a striking lady who no matter how small her role was in a film you noticed her.
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    This trailer is awesome: I hope the movie is as good.


    Peter---that docu you listed caught my eye (The Waiting Room.) I'm glad it is out before the election.
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    What was it that made it hard to understand? Poor sound recording, or overly thick accents? I watch most DVD's now with the subtitles on. Too often lines are slurred or said too quickly. Plus subtitles often include background conversation that you would not have heard over top of music, etc.

    I saw her on Conan and she is equally hilarious and charming. I'd go see her in anything. :respec:

    I watched this the last year or two, very good movie. But I seem to not be able to remember how movies end!! :lol: So I googled, "how does the deerhunter end?" Found this site: ruinedendings.com. Fantastic! Now whenever I think of a movie and can't remember how it ends, I've got a place to go! :lol:

    P.S. The actress who plays Linda looks SO much like Meryl Streep! :p
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    ^ OH GOD if only I had television, for that Conan interview...!

    I did see her on Jimmy Kimmel (the Kimmel posts everything on his youtube channel, sigh so good to us) and she is hilarious in that interview as well. I just think she's got a super interesting comic voice. A lot of kick ass gals in comedy who go beyond the sexy chick denominator. Lizzy Caplan, Audrey Plaza...I'd add Emma Stone too.
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  35. Artemis@BC

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    I discovered, quite by accident, The Hedgehog -- based on Muriel Barbery's novel The Elegance of the Hedgehog. A lot of people raved about the book but I simply couldn't get into it. The movie, however, I loved. I think the big difference is that the book starts with Renée, who is very hard to like until you get to know her ("the hedgehog"). The movie, however, starts with Paloma, who is instantly relatable, and tells most of the story through her eyes. Anyway, a very enjoyable film, I recommend it highly.
  36. PeterG

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    Checked youtube (no luck) then googled Conan and found his Team Coco website. No search feature, but there is a video section and I found this:

    http://teamcoco.com/video#page=4

    At the bottom are two Rebel Wilson clips. If they're not there when you check, go to page 5 as maybe new vides were added and bumped her vids to the next page. :)
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    at library on computer with no speakers but even without sound I hear "And the best actor award goes to Daniel Day-Lewis!!"

    oh my........
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    took me a minute to figure out "Conan" was not "Conan the Barbarian" lol
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    oh and heeeelllllppppp meeee! out of curiousity I picked up "Twilight" -ruh-roh. I'm already up to "Breaking Dawn" part 1--eeeek!!!!!!!!!!
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    Djimon Hounsou and Kevin Bacon
    or
    Richard Gere, Susan Sarandon and Tim Roth

    um.............can I watch both films at once, and then choose.......