Discussion in 'Off The Beaten Track' started by PeterG, Nov 26, 2012.
I want to see it, but I don't believe it's been the theaters here.
I want to see Sugar Man, but I'm quite certain that it'll get shown on the telly here sooner or later, or even in regular theatres, so I'm thinking it might be better to see something I might not get the chance to see again.
Well, I'll be a vote against the majority here.
My daughter was looking forward very much to seeing Silver Linings Playbook, and we were disappointed that it only played for 3 days in early December. I was very happy when it returned for a longer stay last week, and we went to see it last Friday.
We sat through the movie while one section of people laughed uproriously, and another squirmed in discomfort at the idea of laughing at a difficult illness. We left the movie and were both a bit hesitant to admit how much we hated it. It was nothing like we were expecting.
Bradley and Jennifer were very good at portraying their characters. But I just can't see anything funny about a severely bipolar man falling in love with a girl who probably has borderline personality disorder. If I were his mom, I would not be smiling sweetly at these two people getting together. We both hated the ending, and felt the movie really minimized the difficulty of their lives. Neither of them were anywhere near well enough to be a good choice for a romance.
We were definitely watching the movie with biased eyes, because my daughter has to cope with major depressive disorder, and I have a close friend at work who has lived with bipolar for 12 years, and I just could not find much to laugh about with this. People were laughing at their crazyness and disordered thinking, and it just made me angry.
eta- I just read the wiki for the book that the movie is based on- what a much better ending. If they'd made that the second half of the movie, instead of turning it into Dirty Dancing, it would probably have lived up to my expectations.
I realize I'm painfully late to posting this, but IMHO Munich was a total mess. I could not sit through that film again without hitting FF. It was long and pointless. Lincoln was a decent historical study of a person, but the film itself didn't really grab me. It actually seemed to be a pretty generic , although enjoyable, movie. I just don't see it as the Oscar frontrunner.
Went to see this over the weekend and enjoyed it more than I thought I would. Not the fastest-paced movie, but the visit from the King and Queen was interesting to watch -even more so since I think they had actual footage of the real people at the end credits. Sam West (Bertie) and Bill Murray were both great. Not that impressed with Olivia Williams as Eleanor Roosevelt, but all in all it's worth seeing -at the very least on dvd.
rjblue, I'm sorry you didn't enjoy "Silver Linings Playbook." The director was actually drawn to the material because one of his family members is bipolar.
I also didn't realize that Jennifer Lawrence replaced Anne Hathaway, who bowed out because of scheduling conflight with making "The Dark Knight Rises."
Only two smaller movies being released this week:
January 18 The Baytown Outlaws (Action comedy with Eva Longoria, Billy Bob Thorton, Travis Fimmel, Paul Wesley [Vampire Diaries] and Andre Braugher)
January 18 LUV (Drama with Common, Charles S. Dutton and Danny Glover)
I looked at reactions on the internet from the mental health community and they are quite mixed. The first part of the movie does a good job of portraying a manic state, but I find that difficult to laugh at. It didn't show any of the debilitating depressive state though.And people like the idea that there is a "happy ever after" out there for everyone, and certainly people with bipolar can live fulfilling lives. My friend has actually found the woman of his dreams. She has a good understanding of the needs of his condition, and is capable of being a partner to a man with bipolar.
If the movie had gone with the original story of the novel, where he actually reaches a crisis after the dance contest, and it is only much later that he and Tiffany start to sort out their feelings, I probably would have enjoyed it more.
I think Jennifer Lawrence was perfect to play Tiffany though, and probably deserved her GG. I haven't seen the other movies, so I don't know what her competition was.
Okay, I have a slew of screenings coming up, most of which I've heard are pretty dreadful and rightfully buried in January.
I already saw "Mama" which was totally derivative of "Paranormal Activity 3," "The Grudge" and "The Possession." There was one scene that had me jump out of my seat but the creature reveal received more laughs than screams. I'm not sure why Guillermo del Toro put his name on this; it totally lacks any of his stylish creativity.
Next up are that Nicholas Sparks film and that Melissa McCarthy comedy; both titles elude me at the moment.
I finally saw 'Zero Dark Thirty' today. It was at the top of my 'to see' list. It was very well made, but because of its late release and the hype surrounding it, I saw slightly disappointed. It's always better when you have no expectations when you go to see a movie. IMO Kathryn Bigelow should have received an Oscar nom as Director. The score by Alexander Desplat is very good. I don't remember if he got Oscar nom for it. Jessica Chastain is very good, but it's never clear what drives her to do the kind of work she does. If the movie has a flaw, that's the one I would mention. She is clearly a fictional character, to make the movie more interesting, so they could have shown some kind of background story. The only thing that comes to my mind is that she saw her friends get killed doing this job, but it still doesn't explain why she chose to do this in the first place. Other than that, the movie- although rather slow initially- picks up pace and becomes more interesting as time goes on. For me the most exciting part was when the Navy Seals got in the helicopter, their night vision glasses, and the whole atmosphere at the time. Chastain's reaction to OBL's killing was similar to Hillary Clinton's- intentional or just good acting?
I saw the trailer of a movie '42' that's coming up. It's about baseball's Jackie Robinson. Looks interesting.
jOBS - The latest biopic about the late co-founder of Apple Inc opens at the Sundance film festival but I am stil to see a trailer. I wonder if they are worried about the movie being compared to "Pirates of Silicon Valley" and falling short. I would love to see a trailer!
Jennifer Lawrence should be on David Letterman every night
She talks about the Meryl Streep thing at the Golden Globes during this. Apparently Lindsey Lohan turned it into a big drama, but I don't follow Twitter so I had no idea.
Very funny! Lindsay Lohan ! It was an obvious joke!
Watched Searching for Sugar Man in class today. It's an extraordinarily unlikely tale, beautifully filmed and edited, containing a hefty dose of great music and amazingly interesting people. The positive buzz is well deserved, I'd say.
I was looking at the watchable movies list and one title I see a lot (and admittedly love) is "Love Actually." Do you think this is or will become a classic? I wonder about "modern classics:" Specifically what is the time frame and more importantly, what modern films are already considered classics?
I despise Love, Actually myself.
I don't think that just because a movie is very watchable it will necessarily become a classic.
I finally got to see Albert Nobbs. So heartbreaking. But a superb performance by Glenn Close. She also helped write the screenplay.
Smaller movies coming out this week:
January 25 John Dies at the End (Comedy/Fantasy/Horror with new cast and Paul Giamatti)
January 25 Yossi (Romance from Israel, continuation of Yossi and Jagger)
January 23 The Pirogue (Drama, unknown cast. From imdb.com: A group of African men leave Senegal in a pirogue captained by a local fisherman to undertake the treacherous crossing of the Atlantic to Spain where they believe better lives and prospects are waiting for them.
January 25 Knife Fight (Drama with Rob Lowe, Julie Bowen, Carrie-Anne Moss, Eric McCormack and Jennifer Morrison)
January 25 Supporting Characters (Comedy with new cast and Lena Dunhma)
January 25 Noobz Comedy with new cast and Casper Van Dien and Jason Mewes)
"John Dies At The End" looks so strange that I have to add that to my To See list. Yossi looks very sweet, so that's another one for me to see. The Pirogue looks good, but I'll wait until one of you sees it and gives the rest of us a review before I decided to add it to my list. The other three look low budget (to uber-low budget by the time you get to the last one).
True. I remember the --at best--lukewarm reviews for "Blade Runner." But now it is considered one of the better sci-fi films. I think I am interested because the process (if there actually is a process) is a mystery to me.
Somewhat OT: I finally discontinued by Netflix account because I don't have a DVD player that works anymore. I am in the process of getting one, but I have to wait until I buy HDTV. So the only movies I can watch right now are in the theaters, which is not a bad thing. All the good movies/Oscar contenders are still running.
I may see Django unchained, after all.
My viewing this weekend:
Attenberg (from Greece): meh. I can see how this movie would be heralded as a landmark for Greek filmmaking, but I found it flat. It's a story I've seen a thousand times before, and without any personal connection to Greece it was hard to get excited about anything here.
I Wish (from Japan): Delightful. About the hopes and dreams, big and small, of children. Well worth watching.
Pitch Perfect: What a hoot! Hard to describe this without using the words "Glee, the college years." There's nothing really original here, but the music is great, the characters engaging, and it's just a whole lotta fun.
I recently got a Roku, hooked it up, and can now watch Netflix stuff for $8.99 a month. I've really enjoyed it. Other channels are available to purchase, but I'm satisfied with just Netflix.
New movies this week are below. I have to admit that omitted one trailer from this list. It's a movie called "Boys Against Girls" and I think it might be the closest thing I've seen to a snuff film. I hate to think of myself of pro-censorship, so I'm giving you the title of the movie but I'm not providing a link to it's trailer! :barf:
February 1 The Haunting in Connecticut 2: The Ghosts of Georgia (Horror thriller with Chad Michael Murray and Cicely Tyson)
February 1 Sound City (Musical documentary featuring Stevie Nicks, Trent Reznor, Tom Petty, Barry Manilow, Dave Grohl, Rick Springfield, John Fogerty, Lars Ulrich, James Brown, Frank Black and Kevin Cronin. From imdb.com: “A documentary on the fabled recording studio that was located in Van Nuys, California.”
February 1 Koch (From imdb.com: “A documentary on Ed Koch, the mayor of New York City from 1978 to 1989.”
February 1 Mumia: Long Distance Revolutionary (Documentary. From imdb.com: “The film chronicles the life and revolutionary times of death row political prisoner Mumia Abu-Jamal.”
January 30 As Luck Would Have It (Spanish drama with Salma Hayek)
February 1 Stand Up Guys (Crime comedy with Al Pacino, Christopher Walken, Alan Arkin and Julianne Marguiles)
February 1 The Gatekeepers (Documentary. From imdb.com: “A documentary featuring interviews with all surviving former heads of Shin Bet, the Israeli security agency whose activities and membership are closely held state secrets.”
I thought Stand Up Guys was supposed to be released a while ago?!
I AM IN THAILAND AND BOTH LES MISERABLES AND ZERO DARK THIRTY ARE SHOWING
I almost cried, and of course I went to see Les Mis immediately. I agree with pretty much everything that has been posted by people for whom it was somewhat of a disappointment Totally seeing ZD30 tomorrow. So excited! God, there are so many things about being in Thailand I am excited about but seeing some of the Oscar contenders is going to rank probably disproportionally high
Under 'coming soon' they had SLP, which of course is my #1 want to see, and a few of the other contenders but if they had dates for when they open I have no idea where they were. If it somehow magically opens during the week I am here I will actually cry.
I think on one of the recent awards show, it was mentioned that it's his son, who Russell made the movie for. I think Russell may have dedicated this movie to anyone who has a family member who is dealing with similar issues.
Wow. I love Anne Hathaway, but after seeing Lawrence in this movie, I can't imagine anyone doing a better job.
imdb.com lists this movie as a "comedy drama romance". So I think it's up to the viewer to decide where the comedy is and where the drama is. I remember seeing "On Golden Pond" with a friend and during the scene where Jane Fonda is trying to hard to open up and share with her Dad, she shows him his wedding ringer and says, "I got married in Europe!" Henry Fonda looks at her and says, "does he speak English"? My friend burst out laughing and I burst out crying. I guess we could take this back to the old movie where someone slips on a banana peel and lands flat on their back. Some people laugh at that, but I always flinch thinking how much that could have hurt. I guess what I'm saying is that sometimes it's the audience that reacts in a way we might object to, but how what's taken on the screen was not what the filmmaker was trying to acheive.
The lists I use for weekly releases sometimes show differing release dates, so I looked this up at imdb.com and while it's wide release is this week, it did get a limited release in dinner, probably in the hopes of getting some Oscar nominations? Oh well...
Peter--just which film is going to win best picture? We have an Oscars contest in our local paper and I am at a loss for Best Pix, Dir, Actress, Supp Actor. You know we usually have a pretty good idea by now but I am flummoxed. What do you think?
Check out these Oscar-themed posters:
I personally like the Zero Dark Thirty one the best. I think Jessica Chastain's pose and the coloring creates a nice image.
Picture: I still say Lincoln but Argo has the momentum. If they'd nominated Argo for Director I would say it was a lock. That's the flummoxing part. In a contest, I would go with Lincoln.
Actress: Lawrence. Chastian possibly, but I'd go with Lawrence in a contest. I think she's more likely.
Supp. Actor: This one I really don't know. I would go with Christoph Waltz in a contest, but this is the category I'm least sure about. But Waltz is sexy, so he gets my vote.
Interesting---I do wonder if "Argo" is receiving votes because of Affleck's predicament. Plus it is a fine movie. I like that we really don't know. It has been awhile since I felt that way with the Academy Awards.
Gosh, I dunno! So I googled "Oscar odds" to see what others are thinking. (Actually I only looked at the first three sites! )
Picture: My first thought was Lincoln, and that's what both sites I looked at are predicting. Argo looks to be its' main competitor, but with Affleck not receiving a director's nomination, I'm not sure it will overtake Lincoln. Plus Lincoln is Oscar fodder and Argo is more of a popcorn movie. Les Miserables is next in line followed by Silver Linings Playback (which I would be fine with winning).
Director: Looks pretty clear that it'll be #3 for Spielberg (after Schindler's List and Saving Private Ryan). I was disappointed that Ang Lee wouldn't get his first win, but wikipedia highlights my brain freeze as Lee won for Brokeback Mountain. Guess I'm still smarting that this movie didn't win Best Picture. Anyway, I think Stevie will take home his third directing award.
Actress: Lawrence over Chastain (one site says Jessica is gaining on Jen, but still has her in second). There was talk about Watts taking this one, but all three sites have her in fourth after Emmanuelle Riva.
Supporting Actor: Jones over Hoffman. I thought DeNiro would be in the running, but he seems to be in fourth after Christoph Waltz.
Which sites are you using?
That ranking seems pretty high for Les Miserables. The sites I've read that have it lower than third (they have SLP, Life of Pi, and Zero Dark Thirty ahead of it in some order).
Here's a chart from Awards Daily. This is where I usually get my news for Oscar news and odds.
Of course, this is all subject to change after the DGA winner is announced this weekend. Also, Oscar ballots aren't sent out until February 8th, and the mood may shift by then.
Saw Zero Dark 30 today. It was excellent. Easily the best movie I've seen for this awards season. Chastain was, as expected, really, really good as well, though I agree with those who said that at the end of the movie they still didn't feel they really knew the character. But it was well-written, deftly paced, and had me fully invested and very tense at times even though I obviously knew the outcome of the mission. Good job to Kathryn Bigelow. Like others, I'm not sure why it's fallen off the bandwagon for awards - but I haven't seen Argo or Lincoln.
Thanks Peter...I'm going to look at VIETgrl's site too. I want to put together a winning ballot (but doesn't everyone?)
We had a special showing of "Plan 9 From Outer Space" last night.
Take note that the site is pretty pro-Lincoln, Zero Dark Thirty, and Life of Pi (although it loved Argo when it came out). I'm fine with that because so am I.
ITA on all. I have seen Lincoln & Argo. My ranking would be
2.Zero Dark Thirty
4.Les Miserable (despite its flaws)
5.Silver linings playbook
6.Life of Pi
I have not seen the rest of the nominated movies.
My pics for best actor and actress are Day Lewis and Chastain, but it does not look like Chastain is going to win this year. She is too good an actress to not have won, so I am sure she will be in line next year (to make up for this year).
IMO two things will keep Chastain from winning the Oscar. 1)the director was not nominated (it shows the academy has something against this movie), 2)the movie was released too late, thus limiting her visibility.
I don't understand the hoopla over Lawrence (as THE winner) in SLP at all. She was very good, but others were better. JMO.
One of my favorites. My husband and I really enjoy pointing out the bloopers. On a slight tangent, Johnny Depp did a good job in "Ed Wood", liked that movie.
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