Let's nitpick from figure skaters

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  1. ehdtkqorl123

    ehdtkqorl123 New Member

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    Is there something you particularly don't like when figure skaters do something during their performances?
    Costume, gestures, habits, whatever...
    Let's talk about what you don't like or something that bothers you.


    Personally I don't like the habit of making a 4-shaped leg when skaters jump. 4-shaped leg meaning when they jump, they bend one leg so that it literally looks like "4". (See Ito Midori or Yukari Nagano's jumps) Looks like they are trying to get a lift force to stay in air longer... like helicopters LOL

    Some people don't like it when skaters cover their boots but I don't mind that :p

    I will add more if something comes up to mind..
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  2. nubka

    nubka Well-Known Member

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    I don't like slow, draggy spins/sit spins at the very end of a program. :blah:
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  3. Jiazumi

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    I don't like it when a skater is super slow, or does a ugly biellman. I mean if you're going to attempt a certain spin, at least do it right.

    As far as costumes go, I think you're costume should go with the theme/story of your program. That means if I'm skating to POTO, I wouldn't wear light sparkly colors.
  4. misskarne

    misskarne Spirit. Focus. Ability. Tenacity. Aussie Grit.

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    I hate it when ladies wear OTB tights. :p (someone had to say it!)

    Hmm...oh yeah, I also don't like it when guys wear super-blousy shirts that they kind of go swimming in. Nothing wrong with skintight, or even, you know, just regular tight, guys.
  5. skatak

    skatak Well-Known Member

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    Hate it when skaters have a very sad music, but yet have the toothpaste smile ON. aka Tanith on ther Chopin free dance. And another dancer skating on Piaf (can't remember right now).
    doesn't make sense at all, just show the skater does not know what he/she is skating on.

    and could very well live without the 'I'm scratchin my head with my skate, just because it's worth more points' attitudes...
  6. blue_idealist

    blue_idealist Well-Known Member

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    I hate when skaters reach their hand out and grab the air, and then pull their hand in. I know this move usually goes with the "story" of the music somehow, but I and most people watching probably don't fully understand why. It's just an overused thing that often allows the skater to rest for a few seconds.
  7. googooeyes

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    No over-the-skate tights, illusion spins, or swordfighting allowed!
  8. TheGirlCanSkate

    TheGirlCanSkate New Member

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    When a skater looks awkward with something in their programs - I flinch when Gracie does her shimmy and march. Love her, everything else, but I find I hold my breath and want to look away for those parts.

    The lace leos over flesh leos - I am very distracted that a nipple might appear. It's not possible (it's a solid flesh leo) and then I feel pervy for even considering a costume mishap. It would not be so off-putting if the girls were adults.

    I guess the summation is when I feel awkward that it deters my enjoyment of the program and I miss losing myself in the skate.
  9. Sasha'sSpins

    Sasha'sSpins Well-Known Member

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    I don't like chicken-flaps during spirals, marching or skaters who seem to stand still during their programs.
  10. AxelAnnie

    AxelAnnie Well-Known Member

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    Personal hate most: Dropped knee going into a doughnut spin. HATE it.

    One up from that.............spread eagle with butt sticking out. Really, if you can't assume the position.......don't do it.
  11. snoopysnake

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    My biggest hate: skating dresses that have panties in a much lighter color (especially white or a beige that matches the tights) versus the dress itself.

    I hate skating dresses with one sleeve, GFB exhibition music, hair that is blond in front or on top but black underneath, and skaters who use fast music (like the really fast section of Spartacus) but don't skate fast enough with it.
  12. Cachoo

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    I have no idea why I feel this way but I don't like costumes that include gloves. And while I thought the world of Sandhu that butt spin has never been one of my favorites.
  13. maatTheViking

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    crystals on illusion fabric. I get you don't want risk having bare skin, so you use illusion fabric - but why stick gems on it? If you want to accent that area on your body, lets use real fabric under the gems.

    almost any midriff bared ladies costume

    butt sticking up when skaters come into a doughnut spin

    when doing an inside death spiral, the way most skaters end up very high over the ice, with the legs apart. I think the only nice back inside one I have seen was someone posting an old Propotov video...

    over the heel tights (if nude - I have seen black ones in shows that make it look like it is 'fashionable')
  14. circuscandy

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    I hate the butt spin. Actually, hate is a strong word. I just feel an intense amount of aesthetic displeasure when I see the butt spin. It makes me laugh, at least.

    I, too, hate it when costumes don't pull a little bit of influence from the music/program. I want to see a connection there.

    But the one that gets me the hardest is when people have spins during musical highlights and the spins slooooooooooow doooooooooown. Or when someone does a step sequence (in dance, mostly) to a really intense part of the music and the steps can't keep up with it.

    And poorly matched illusion fabric. Especially when it veers into orange.
  15. ehdtkqorl123

    ehdtkqorl123 New Member

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    Just curious, is there an official name for that spin? Korean fans call it mushroom spin :p
  16. Cachoo

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    You know I don't have any idea: If Sandhu invented it wouldn't it be the "Sandhu?" Mushroom works for me though.
  17. euterpe

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    One of my pet peeves is a skater giving up the performance the minute the music stops. Most top skaters don't do that, they maintain the mood or character of the music through the bows. It's especially jarring when the performance hasn't been too good and the skater goes from the last pose to visually beating him/herself up. I even recall one ice dancer who fell in the middle of the program and cried and pouted all the way to the end. Skaters have to realize they are performing, much like actors, and you don't slip out of character until you go offstage.
  18. Aussie Willy

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    I think you are talking about leg wrap which is a technical issue with jumps. It is not a choice a skater makes and certainly does not benefit the jump. However for a skater like Ito she did do it but had an open position in the hips so it never affected her ability to jump. However it can affect the jumps of many skaters and is a reason why many skaters have trouble with triples or even doubles.

    OTB tights are a pet hate of mine.
  19. stevlin

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    I hate when a girl/lady does a layback spin with the leg that's off the ice is super bent like the capital letter L..... It's more graceful when the leg off the ice is up higher and slightly bent. Just hate it when it droops like an "L". Also I hate in ice dancing when the guy holds the woman in front of him and she looks like she is walking or running in air. He is holding her up and she is walking but not touching the ice. It looks stupid to me.
  20. mag

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    Kids around here call it an "A" spin. (And we live in Sandhu land)
  21. ks777

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    I hate it when Akiko Suzuki does camel spins. I don't like the way Mirai Nagasu moves her feet during step sequence. Caroline's 2axel.
  22. Lanie

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    OTB tights pulled halfway down the skate or bunched up at the ankle. UGH.
  23. danceronice

    danceronice Corgi Wrangler

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    Over-the-ankle tights. Either all the way over the boot, or IN the boot. Pick one.
  24. nubka

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    While many do, some skaters never get in character to begin with... :(
  25. nubka

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    I like that move! :watch: It looks soft and kind of magical.
  26. aims

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    Not hate, but I don't see any artistry in men's Biellmann spins. Most of them look so forced. I probably wouldn't mind if they actually have the correct amount of flexibility, but that's so rare. Even Yuzuru's, or Plushenko's, I don't know, I'd rather they just leave it out.
  27. Aussie Willy

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    :lol: Too true!
  28. Whitneyskates

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    I hate big, grandiose entrances. K/G-S are the worst offenders when it comes to this. I adore them but I swear it seems like it takes them 10 minutes to get into their starting pose.
  29. Cachoo

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    I kind of wish they would ban Biellmann spins for one year and catch foot spirals (is that the right term?) also. I don't hate them but I would love some variety for a change.
  30. skateboy

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    Yes, yes, YES, mine too! And the same at the beginning of programs. Ice dancers and pairs seem to be better at this. IMO, way too many singles skaters take forever to get into position, some even doing a double salchow or something beforehand. I've always felt the performance starts the minute the skater takes the ice (and was certainly coached that way). Can you imagine Yo-Yo Ma getting on stage and playing a scale in front of the audience before his performance? :)
  31. alij

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    Mine is dirty boots and/or laces. I do understand that they get scuffed and they have to be worn in but some just look dreadful, I don't think HD tv helps in this regard though, as I only used to really notice it at live events and now it bugs me at home too!
  32. snoopysnake

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    You will enjoy the butt spin much more if you call it the kittycat spin and think of this cat:http://mfrost.typepad.com/.shared/image.html?/photos/uncategorized/2008/09/04/att4.jpg
    I completely admit to being a crazy cat lady. Sometimes if a skater is doing this spin, I say "meow" as each rotation is completed. Helps keep my attention off the unflattering position of the skater's posterior.
  33. Scrufflet

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    Love the photo!
    from a person who regularly reprimands her Coon cat for underrotating his jumps.
  34. Scrufflet

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    The current crop of Russian male wannabee Plushenko skaters who look absolutely Miserable on the ice! And I'm not talking about their abilities. They look like they would rather be anywhere else in the world. I'm not wanting the opposite - maniacal grinning to whatever you're skating to, but please, something a little more balanced?
  35. pinky166

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    OTB tights
    L-position layback spins where the leg line is compromised to get the back way bent, even if the flexibility is outstanding and there's a great biellman to end the spin, that ugly position gets to me
    Haircutter positions where the knee of the leg being lifted is far from the knee of the leg one is spinning on
    A-frame spins
    catchfoot camel spins that never achieve the donut position :yikes:
    biellmans done with one hand gripping the wrist of the other arm, instead of having both hands on the skate
    ina bauers with no back bend (like the one Gracie does as a transition into her lutz, i give her credit for doing such a tough transition move into the jump, but please, if you do an ina bauer, bend your back, you can tell she is capable considering her layback spin)
    leg wraps
    non-matching illusion fabric
    faux strapless dresses where there's no effort made to make the illusion hard to see, so the dress has thick tank top straps that are clearly visible, yet the rest of it is designed as if the costume was truly strapless (a lot of Caroline Zhang dresses have been of this type)
  36. Moto Guzzi

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    I first saw it when some skater (I don't remember which one) was skating to music from the Nutcracker. I've called it the Buttcracker spin ever since.
  37. aims

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    Is that what you call it? A butt spin? The one where the skater is bent down and spins on one straight leg? Hate it. No artistry. Kinda obscene.

    That slight moment when the hip jots into the air before the donut position on spins. (I like Shizuka, but hers are too prominent. Puts me off each time)
  38. paskatefan

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    butt spins, "shredded" costumes ...
  39. skatak

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    I thought it was quite interesting that for her 3T-3T combo, Midori would have the leg wrap on the first triple, but not on the second. Was wondering at that time how many rotation she could do without the leg wrap on the first jump, gaining extra rotation speed...
  40. kwanette

    kwanette Fetalized since 1998

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    Spread eagles with butts sticking out.

    Love a beautiful Russian split, ala Sasha, love a beautiful split falling leaf ,ala Michelle,..hate those whatever they are called leaps that look as if they are from a National Geographic special.

    Choreographic moves that add nothing to the program..or what my friend Cindy and I would call.."What was that?"

    Flapping and flailing arm movements.