Les Miserables - the movie

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  1. paskatefan

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  2. MR-FAN

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    I'm so excited that you found it! But the link says that the video is private, is it possible to make it viewable by others?!? Thanks again!
     
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    I couldn't get it either.
     
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    Standard American. Or simply their own. The accents were all over the place and it was a distraction. Especially Gavroche. it just seemed out of place. Anne didn't have to say Doe-tah for daughter for example. Nitpicky I know but it was just a jumble of accents
     
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    Just got back from the cinema. It only opened in the UK yesterday and everywhere I've looked for 24 hours both theatre friends and non theatre friends have been RAVING about the film. I went in with an open mind and have come away thinking that overall the film has far exceeded my expectations.

    It should be said that I'm a MASSIVE fan of the show but I still adored the film. The only person who was embarrassing was Crowe who really is as bad as everyone is making out. I mean singing aside, he didn't act at all. Stars and Suicide Soliloquy were both transposed down for him which annoyed me as I've sung them both myself professionally and they're not that hard. If his vocal range is that far off the original key he shouldn't have been cast.

    Really not getting the griping over Hugh Jackman in this thread. He was FABULOUS!! And what's all this rubbish about octave differences in range? He's a high baritone rather than a tenor. There is not a whole octave difference in between those ranges!! That doesn't mean that the original key is out of his grasp, it means that he will sing it differently than the mostly tenors who have played the role. As he's singing live I could see what he was doing technically to achieve the range required. At no point was he damaging his vocal folds. Some constriction is natural and can actually be an interesting vocal choice for filming. He'd not be able to get away with that 8 performances a week but that's not what he's been hired to do here. While he doesn't have the clarity of sound that some seem to think is necessary, the rawness of his vocals and those of the rest of the cast, totally fitted the style of the movie. Anyone expecting sweet singing needs to stay home and stick on the 10th or 25th because that's not what this is about at all. I LOVED all the in your face close ups.

    Hathaway was fab - indulgent my arse, that's how she was directed and it works in context with the whole thing - Barks was stunning, although her 4 inch waist and torso did freak me out a bit. Redmayne and Tveit were wonderful and even Seyfried didn't annoy me. At least she showed some emotion unlike stone faced Crowe. Literally 5 bars into the ridiculously transposed soliloquy I was thinking, oh just jump already! Anyway it didn't bother me for long. I was soon back to crying ridiculously and when the film ended all you could hear were sobs. Then the applause started. I've never experienced that in a cinema. Amazing night and can't wait to see it again and again.
     
  6. Grannyfan

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    I saw the movie this week and liked it very much. I've seen two touring productions, and the movie did not have the same pact but I thought it was good. The close ups didn't bother me at all. I love Russell Crowe and frankly thought he sang as well as Jackman but he was just all wrong for Javert. His character had no presence. I do not like Anne Hathaway but she was good. But an Oscar nomination? It seemed to me she wasn't onscreen enough even for a supporting actress nod. The highlights for me were Redmayne and Banks.
     
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    I'm delighted that the film was something special for you, floskate.
    Thanks for the review!
     
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    I'm delighted that the film was something special for you. floskate.
    Thanks for the review!
     
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    Well I was nervous about seeing Les Miz after reading some of this thread.. we were supposed to go New Year Eve but flu and hospital issues for my dad meant we couldn't see it till yesterday.. well I LOVED IT :).. Hugh Jackman was absolutely friggin fantastic - his singing and acting was amazing - i had no idea he had such an incredible voice! What I loved about the movie - as opposed to the musical - was these were incredible actors who were so believable as their characters.. and they sang.. unlike the musical where there really isn't alot of acting going on just good singing.. this was so much more.

    I'm so glad my concerns were for naught! I highly recommend this movie and take lots and lots of kleenex - I have now downloaded 80% of the movie onto my ipod.. Russel Crowe does a great acting job - I think he portrayed the angst of the character really well.. he isn't an 'amazing' singer but he is fantastic in the role.. Hathaway was incredible - for me the best two were Jackman and Hathaway - I hope they both bring the Oscars home :)
     
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    I finally saw it and I'm in the disappointed group. Russell Crowe for me was a huge distraction as every time he was on screen I found myself wishing casting had found someone else to play the role. I like Russell Crowe but not at all in this film.
     
  15. grimey

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    I finally got to see Les Mis last night and I thought it was pretty good. Russel Crowe was not that horrible but I didn't even know he could carry a tune so I guess that is why he didn't really bother me LOL. I agree some parts were a bit over acted and I couldn't connect emotionally to some of the characters. This is possibly due to the fact that I am still in love with the 25th Anniversary (minus jonas brother) cast. Hugh Jackman was friggin fabulous! I'm glad he was nominated for the oscar.
     
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    My mom and I saw it today. She had never seen it on stage and was not familiar with the story, while I saw the stage version in London ten years ago. We both loved it. I agree that Crowe's singing is not that strong, but it worked okay for Javert. If he had had any other role, I would have thrown things at the screen. Anne Hathaway was fantastic and we gushed over Hugh Jackman for all of dinner.
     
  17. michaelfsfan

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    Finally got to see the movie yesterday and I loved it on the whole, except for one caveat: Russell Crowe. Oy vey. That man can hardly act, let alone sing. :yikes:

    Loved:
    - the atmospheric approach to the mise en scene (eg, the end of "Who Am I?", where the camera pans out of Hugh Jackman on top of the mountain and segues directly into the gritty, overcrowded streets of "At The End of the Day")
    - the supporting roles being cast with performers who had been in the musical, especially Colm Wilkinson and Frances Ruffelle (part of the fun during the movie was recognising the faces when they appeared at various parts - "Oooh, John Barr has a solo line in "Look Down"!" "That's Killian Donnelly and Alistair Brammer from the West End cast as two of the students" etc)
    - how the the placement of "I Dreamed A Dream" gave Fantine's descent into penury and moral destitution an added air of tragic despair
    - how "Do You Hear The People Sing?" was used to start the revolution during General Lamarque's funeral
    - how the lyrics in some of the songs were given a very clear context that was not feasible in the musical and therefore made sense (eg, "Did you see them lying side by side" in "Turning" and ""Here they talked of revolution/Here it was they lit the flame/Here they talked about tomorrow/And tomorrow never came" in "Empty Chairs at Empty Tables")
    - Eddie Redmayne's characterisation of Marius (I loved how he gave the role more of a backbone whilst not skimping on the romantic side, and how he showed, during "A Little Fall of Rain", that he was torn up by Eponine's death, despite not being able to reciprocate her feelings for him)
    - Samantha Barks' Eponine (I was not particularly moved by her performance during the 25th Anniversary concert, probably because of some strange vocal phrasings when she sang "On My Own", but she seems to have improved both in the acting and singing department)
    - Anne Hathaway fleshing out the role of Fantine and making "I Dreamed A Dream" her own
    - the cockney phrasing used for the lower class people
    - both Isabelle Allen and Daniel Huttlestone as young Cosette and Gavroche
    - Coufeyrac's heartbreaking reaction to Gavroche's death at the barricades

    Somewhere in the middle:
    - Hugh Jackman's singing (I thought his vocals were much more suited to the first part of musical when he was a convict)
    - Sacha Baron Cohen and Helena Bonham Carter as the Thenardiers
    - Amanda Seyfried's Cosette (her singing was not as annoying as I thought it would be)
    - Aaron Tveit's Enjolras (I was expecting the character to be more charismatic and powerful)
    - the lack of differentiation in Valjean's age between the time when he first rescues Cosette and when she's grown up

    Disliked:
    - Russell Crowe. Enough said. :scream:
    - the way "Bring Him Home" was staged (why have Jackman charging around with a wide eyed desperation like he'd just seen a ghost, when the song is supposed to be a prayer to God for Marius' safety and welfare?)

    Nevertheless, I was bowled over by the attention to detail in the sets and watching the musical on the big screen brought back many wonderful memories of the various stage productions I'd seen and the interviews I'd done with two "Les Mis" alumni many years ago.
     
  18. BelleBway

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    Thanks for sharing your thoughts- I am mostly in agreement. Well, except I loved Aaron Tveit.

    The 2nd time I saw it, I wanted to cheer when Javert jumped. That's clearly not the right reaction to have to that moment. I could have been ok with the not singing if it has been accompanied by great acting. Or even good acting.
     
  19. Wyliefan

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    I meant to keep an eye out for Frances and Killian, but I forgot! :duh: Next time!

    I too thought Aaron was fantastic.

    Personally, I found Javert's suicide more sad and moving than I ever had before.
     
  20. Anita18

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    Finally caught Les Miz. For next Christmas, we should all chip in for Tom Hooper to get a wide angle lens and a Steadicam. Maybe a gyroscope mount too. The shot and lens choices were completely inconsistent and took me out of the movie several times. Bleck. :blah:

    Anna Hathaway ROCKED. :cheer: Eddie Redmayne was my favorite after her. IDAD and Empty Chairs At Empty Tables were pretty much the only songs where I didn't mind the uber-closeups so much. :lol:
     
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    LOL!

    except parody girl is a better singer and more understated
     
  23. jenny12

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    Totally agree. Way better voice. Anne Hathaway's original version seemed like it more should be the parody version.
     
  24. Holley Calmes

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    4rkidz, you need to get your hands on a copy of the London version of "Oklahoma" where Hugh is Curly. He started out in musical theatre/acting in Australia....he was always a singer. He won a Tony for "The Boy from Oz." He studied with an opera coach in eastern Europe while he was filming a movie prior to the Broadway play. His voice is unfrigginbelievable I think. Not many great voices have such beautiful wrappings! And he can dance like a maniac too. Is he an opera singer? No. But he's fabulous in my book.

    No way in hell he will win the Oscar. Daniel Day Lewis's name is already engraved on it. Maybe deservedly. I like the idea of having two categories - comedy/musical and drama.
     
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  25. 4rkidz

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    except Hathaway can act.. which is what she is being nominated for.. not best voice ;)
     
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    Just saw it last night myself, and I'm just about in 100% agreement with your pros, cons, and in the middle list.

    Overall I enjoyed it very much, and it definitely deserves to be in the top 10 list for the year. But I did find myself picking nits throughout, and when comparing it to the stage version it does come up somewhat short. So for that reason alone, I don't think it deserves to be the Best Picture winner.

    I'd heard a lot of amazing reviews of Anne Hathaway beforehand (plus I've always thought she was a great actor), so her performance, while extremely impressive and Oscar-worthy, did not surprise me. Ditto Hugh Jackman. The real revelation for me was Eddie Redmayne. I've seen him, and liked him, in stuff before, but I had no idea he had such depth of performance -- both singing and acting. Wow, what a breakout role for him. (Only small criticism: too much chin wobble on the vibratto.)

    Crowe, even though I didn't expect anything from his singing ... disappointed on the acting side too. I've always thought he was a decent actor, even if not a decent human being. But I was completely unconvinced by his Javert. Particularly his soul-searching and "conversion" at the end. It was almost like he knew he couldn't sing very strongly ... so he just phoned it in in the acting too.

    I also thought some of the staging was questionable too. Some of the scenes took great advantage of it being a film rather than on a stage (opening scene and streets of Paris in particular). But there were others that I thought were too constrained and "stagey."

    Like I say, though, picking nits. Overall, very good film, probably a 8/10.
     
  27. jenny12

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    Well, I'm in the minority, but I wasn't impressed by Hathaway's over-acting either.
     
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    Russell was too busy singing, he couldn't act! :lol: If you don't have strong singing skills AND the part is too high for you to start with, there's really not much you can do in the acting department without losing the singing entirely.

    Another part of the it being on film is the extreme closeups. You obviously can't get that on the stage. There was an article in the NYT that talked about that technique and its lack of irony, which riled up many critics:

    http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/01/28/les-miserables-and-irony/?smid=fb-share

    For the record, I think that article is asinine. What were the extreme dutch angles and noticeable shakycam if NOT calling attention to itself, ie ironic? :rofl:
     
  29. elka_sk8

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    Ok, so I just saw the movie over the weekend and I am with you on this. I get why she's getting so much buzz, but there were times where it was just Too Much. For example, I thought the "performance" of I Dreamed a Dream was so tragic that it detracted from the song itself.

    Overall I really liked the movie, but I found myself generally most impressed with the actors I wasn't familiar with ahead of time. Loved Samantha Barks as Eponine, she totally killed On My Own. Eddie Redmayne was also great. I was impressed by the young Cosette and the street kids/revolutionaries in Act II.

    Of the "stars" Hugh Jackman was quite good- parts of the vocals were perhaps a bit out of his range, but overall I liked him. There probably isn't much more I can say about Russell Crowe that hasn't been said already- totally wrong for the part. I wished they had taken a chance on someone from the theater for Javert.

    Overall I thought the musical translated well to the big screen, loved the Paris scenes especially.
     
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    I just saw it this weekend as well, and I liked it overall. I was blown away by the younger cast especially, Enjolras and Marius and the rest of the revolutionaries as well as Gavroche. Their voices were so good that I was really disappointed that they shorted "Drink With Me" so much. And honestly I was fine with Amanda Seyfried too; her voice doesn't have any power behind it but I liked her vocal tone and was surprised by her range.