Les Mis Fans ~ Keep An Eye Out During PBS Pledge Break Times

Discussion in 'Off The Beaten Track' started by AragornElessar, Mar 8, 2011.

  1. jenny12

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    Yeah, I love The Confrontation, but part of the tension comes from two great singers battling it out. Jackman's voice might be too strong compared to Crowe to make it into a real battle.

    Here's the ultimate with Colm Wilkinson v. Philip Quast:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0SWaGfkPxA

    I also enjoyed the 25th anniversary version:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TN9SQAcW5Dw
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  2. Spareoom

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    ^^ Colm vs. Philip will go down as quite possibly the most epic rendition of the Confrontation ever. It is just incredible; everything else has always paled in comparison to me.
  3. Holley Calmes

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    I actually prefered the 25th Anniversary rendition....though both are spectacular. I think I like Boe's voice best. Just a personal preference. Wow! I think whatever Jackman might slightly lack in vocal he will more than make up in presence. Valjean is supposed to be a super-strong man, is he not? Jackman is just a large guy to begin with, and then you add his imposing presence....

    I can't wait! And I doubt Crow will be much in the voice line (doesn't he have a rock band?) but his presence will also be "bringing it." He can do menacing! Acting and character development count for a lot.
  4. cruisin

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    I think Philip Quast was the quintessential Javert. As amazing as the Wilkonson/Quast duo was, I would guess that a Boe/Quast would be mind blowing!

    I agree that Crowe has the physical presence to play Javert, but Javert has a hugely important singing role. I'm not sure Crowe is up to that.
  5. Gazpacho

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    Sigh, no matter how good they are, they won't vocally be anywhere close to Colm/Philip nor Alfie/Norm.

    Do you think they might turn The Confrontation into a speaking scene rather than a singing scene?
  6. AragornElessar

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    Oh wow!! Love what I see in that trailer.

    Now that the Trailer's out, it's now real the movie's really happening if that makes any sense. Between this and The Hobbit, I haven't looked this forward to December and big time movies in a long time. Can't wait!! :D
  7. cruisin

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    I hope not! There is virtually no speaking in the musical. I hope they stay true to that in the movie.

    It appears that Marius will have a very decent voice: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxFEqPUu57s , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDK-kwVFkMA&feature=related , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYTTT-u7aUg&feature=related

    It appears that Anne Hathaway (though this is tongue-in-cheek) can sing this musical: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlZ9kAz9Wuc&feature=related

    I heard on GMA, this morning, that all of the singing is being sung while filming. No voiceovers. While that is admirable, will it lose something on screen?
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  8. Theatregirl1122

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    Only if they want to be crucified by the fans.
  9. Wyliefan

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    Cute Twitter exchange between "Javert" and a follower:

    Russell Crowe ‏@russellcrowe
    there is nothing on earth that we share...Javert may not make it home tonight...#lesmis

    Nick Holder ‏@valetudocage
    @russellcrowe take a life jacket
  10. sk8sue

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    Awww. And then: Russell Crowe ‏@russellcrowe
    shooting schedule changed...I live yet...supposed to be Monday now...#lesmis

    Alfie Boe is going to be in the Queen's Jubilee Concert on Tuesday, which it appears will be televised in Canada and the U.S.! CBC is promising to show the full concert.

    eta Or Monday. Looks like it's live on Monday, but being shown in N. A. on Tuesday.
    There were rehearsals today by Buckingham Palace.
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  11. Kruss

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    Last night, after subjecting myself to the atrocious Love Never Dies on PBS, I missed that Alfie Boe's concert at the Royal Albert Hall was on. Thankfully, it's on again Tuesday night, so the DVR is set. :)
  12. Gazpacho

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    Personally, I think that's a marketing gimmick and a misleading statement, if not an outright lie. I will be shocked if the songs are not recorded in the studio and/or post-processed to sound as if they were. When you're filming, there are so many extraneous noises.

    Perhaps what they mean is that while filming, all the actors will be singing rather than merely lip-syncing. But that doesn't mean the audio recorded from the filming will be the final audio.
  13. cruisin

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    I don't really know, for sure, what they are doing. All I can tell you is that they announced on GMA that this was the first time this has ever been done. That they were singing the songs during the actually filming performance. I was wondering if that might be why Anne Hathaway's I Dreamed a Dream sounded a bit weak. It sounds like a bad idea, hopefully GMA did have their info bit mixed up.
  14. bek

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    I actually like Anne's version. Don't get me wrong I haven't heard every single version ever made... BUT what I like about her version is that it isn't perfect but rather raw and full of emotion. I think my favorite version is Ruthie Henshell's. Lea has the best voice of them all but is too perfect. But I loved how Ruthie got extremely raw in the end.

    Obviously there's Ruthie's famous tenth anniversary addition.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHjCvDgILWs&feature=related
    But there's also this version which I love
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmSHk9TB3sI

    What I love about Ruthie's addition is the voice is gorgeous but the rawness is still there.
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  15. cruisin

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    I agree with you. Lea does have the best voice, but I see her as Eponine, from the 10th Anniversary version. This always makes me cry: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFv2TBwnX-E
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    I don't care how old Michael Ball is even if he is older than Jean Valjean! He should be the only person allowed to play Marius. :D
  17. Kruss

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    Hear hear!!
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  19. Gazpacho

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    And what's more, Ruthie's rawness builds as the song progresses and then fades into defeat. In her 10th anniversary performance, notice how she sings the following:

    "forgiving" at the beginning of the song (1:29 in the video)
    "tear" at the middle (2:18 in the video)
    "living" (3:42 in the video)

    Then listen to the last line as she fades into defeat.

    She sang it so that even if you don't know a word of English, you would still know Fantine's life. Amazing. Untouchable.
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  20. cruisin

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    You described that so well, you gave me goose bumps!
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  22. sk8sue

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    So according to the extended first look video, they are definitely singing live! And it seems as though it will sound great and really enhance the whole production. I get more and more excited with everything I see about the film. Also, has everyone seen the first poster and first tv promo spot which came out this week? Such a brilliant idea to reproduce the essence of the Cosette theatrical poster. Can't wait 'til December 25th.

    Oops, The Hobbit is December 14; another film that has taken years to get made. I can't believe that the two of them are coming out within 11 days of each other. I've probably never looked forward to any film in my life as much as these ones. When I saw Les Misérables at the Royal Alexandra Theatre in the early 90s, there was a page in the program that said "soon to be a major motion picture" and I was dying for it to come out back then!
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  23. The Accordion

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    I. CANNOT. WAIT. (I may have to ditch my family on Dec 25 to go to see this!)
  24. Spareoom

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    Well, originally the Hobbit and Les Mis was scheduled to come out on the same day, so having them come out 11 days apart is actually good. :D ;)

    Totally going to see this, maybe even the midnight showing if the theaters are even open. At least I know I'm off work on Christmas so I get to see it! :D
  25. AragornElessar

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    Looking great so far. I might actually agree to going to my sister's this year for Christmas if there's a chance of going to see Les Mis.

    (Don't ask....)
  26. sk8sue

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    Oh, I'm not complaining. I meant that in a good way.
    Can't stop watching the trailers for both movies every day now.
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  27. PRlady

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    I saw the long-form promo for the movie last night (before Pitch Perfect, they sure knew their audience!) Hugh Jackman and Anne explaining what they can accomplish by singing live on-camera was just mesmerizing and the whole movie looks incredibly good. I started to cry listening to Anne sing "I Dreamed a Dream" -- and that was just the promo.

    I think this is going to be wonderful.
  28. cruisin

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    I saw it too. I am a little worried about Amanda Seyfried. She has a lovely voice, but it's weak (no power). And we still have to see how Russell Crowe sounds. Javert is a very important voice, I hope he's up to it.
  29. Gazpacho

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    Yikes, that extended promo didn't foster any confidence. Looks like a beautifully made movie, but the singing may not be up to it.

    I find what Anne Hathaway said incredibly offensive. It is not "selfish" to sing the song in a pretty way nor does it fail to capture "the truth" of the song. The great musical theater actresses have captured Fantine's struggles AND sounded beautiful.

    Amanda Seyfried sounds like a actress in a high school or local theater production.

    No clips of Russell Crowe singing. I worry that his singing may have been disastrous, and they're desperately trying to post-process it.
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    Or they want to wow everyone with how phenomenal he sounds.
  31. Anita18

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    Just by having Hugh Jackman and Anne Hathaway means this will have better singing than Joel Schumacher's Phantom of the Opera. :shuffle: Gerry Butler and Emmy Rossum were a joke. I could have sung Emmy's part better, and I'm a second alto. :shuffle: I can also hit some of the low notes for the opera managers, Firmin and Andre, better than they did!

    I recently saw a YouTube vid of Antonio Banderas singing POTO live with Sarah Brightman and OMG he was sooo much better than Gerry Butler! :wall: Besides, I would let Banderas sex me anytime. :grope:
  32. Kruss

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    Today is Les Miserables' 27th anniversary. :)
  33. UGG

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    LOL the first time I saw it was in Washington DC in 1989, and I also remember the page in the program that said "In 1990 She will be Coming to Cinema"

    I wonder what happened.

    I somehow wish there could have been a movie version with Colm Wilkinson, Michael Ball, and Frances Ruffelle.

    Anywhoo-I have like a regular question that I am dying for anyone who can to answer...

    Why the hell was David Bryant cast as Marius for the OBC? WHY??? How can you go from Michael Ball to him?? he is awful. And I googled him and he was around 50 years old playing Marius. There is like nothing really out there on the internet about him. Does anyone have any knowledge? Was he like someone's brother or something?

    Also I have always wanted to see Frances Ruffelle win the Tony but there does not seem to be anything on youtube or anywhere else where I can find this telecast. Anyone know if it exists?
  34. UGG

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    She does, but besides the OLC and the OBC recordings I have heard, I saw Les Miz about 5 times live and Cossette was always very underwhelming. every single one of them sounded like Tracy Shane who is on the Symphonic Recording. I think she is horrendous.

    As for what Anne said-I guess that is just her interpretation of the role. I she wants Fantine's pain to not be overshadowed by the big money note. or...she cannot hit the big money note and is blowing smoke under everyone's ass LOL.
  35. cruisin

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    ^^ I think Judy Kuhn's Cosette, in the 10th Anniversary production was brilliant.
  36. UGG

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    Yes I should have clarified when I said OLC and OBC, I meant Rebecca Cain and Judy Kuhn whenever they perfomr Cossette LOL.
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    I think Ann was speaking only for herself and how she approached the role. I'm sure there will be people putting down some of the singing choices made by the actors for the film, but you'll have to see it from a cinematic viewpoint and not judge it solely on the singing parts.
  38. AnnieBgood

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    I get a lump in my throat and pain in my heart when I hear Anne sing that song. I'm really surprised by it.
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    It may not have been the best vocal version of the tpoto, but it still captivates me. I'm in love with Patrick Wilson's voice. I melt. lol
    The Masquerade scene is my favorite. I prefer it to the stage set up.
  40. Gazpacho

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    New trailer is out. Looks like a beautiful movie with some great singing (Samantha Barks) and some cringe-worthy singing as well (Russell Crowe). Javert's line in One Day More is one of the easiest lines to sing. If that's all he can do in One Day More, what is Stars going to be like?!?!
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