Leonova too much like a poor womens Slutskaya

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  1. Aussie Willy

    Aussie Willy Well-Known Member

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    Oh for pete sake! You criticise her for not winning worlds titles when she was competing against who you consider a skating god. And as for competitive nerve, that is just crap. She was one of the most gutsy skaters out there and everytime she went out there she gave it her all.

    Stop putting skaters on pedestals and then shoot them down. They all go out there to do their best and the shit you hang on them is really just unacceptable. And there is such a lack of consistency in your arguments.

    Why don't you start a thread about how badly Irina was robbed by Michelle then.
     
  2. senorita

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    wait! this needs :watch::summer:
     
  3. invierno

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    Couldn't agree more. :blah:
     
  4. essence_of_soy

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    Slutskaya and Leonova are both very different skaters, and that's what makes them and the sport unique. Music choices and interpretation allows the individual athlete to shine.

    Having seen Leonova in person at Worlds in Moscow recently, her commitment to both programs was extraordinary. In particular, Alena really sold her free program to the rafters. It was a wonderful moment.
     
  5. riveredge

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    And yet we have another judgejudy thread comparing different skaters! :rofl:
     
  6. hanca

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    Floskate, where are you when we need you? We need to lock another ridiculous thread. :lol:
     
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    Dear Moderator,
    Is this really what you want? Another ridiculous thread by judgejudy, sole purpose of which is to bash a skater. I am more disappointed by how it has been tolerated.
     
  9. bardtoob

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    While I am not a moderator, I would suggest you experience at least one, if not more than one, off season before passing judgement on theads . . . in the Trash Can ;)
     
  10. OliviaPug

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    Leonova kind of reminds me of a young Slutskaya - before Slutskaya had her early downfall (didn't make Worlds, etc.), but before she came back stronger than ever with her 1999-2000 season jump arsenal. Slutskaya emoted on the ice in a similar way.

    I find very few similarities in their skating after that.

    O-
     
  11. ks777

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    Judgejudy = Johnny Weir
     
  12. aftershocks

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    Judgejudy's threads remind me of this ditty:

    Wanna be startin' somethin' ... gotta be startin' somethin' :watch: :violin:


    But geez, ks777, why dis JWe?
     
  13. Aussie Willy

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    It makes as much sense as the rest of this thread.
     
  14. JerseySlore

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    I don't want to dis Leonova, but I just couldn't get past this. No Russian lady can be mentioned in the same breath as the immortal legendary saintress Butyrskaya. :drama:
     
  15. bardtoob

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    Oh, there was a time before Maria reached enlightenment ... when she was an experimenting student rising out of the end of Soviet youth culture.
     
  16. Aussie Willy

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    And experimenting with pink!
     
  17. bardtoob

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  18. Aussie Willy

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    :lol:

    ETA - Just got to watch the program. Unfortunately that outfit really highlighted how stiff Maria's legs were. Shame because I really enjoy her skating. I liked the spiral sequence and she had some very good transitions into the jumps.
     
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  19. Loves_Shizuka

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    ^we do not see such programs/such costumes enough.
     
  20. overedge

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    I dunno, I'm thinking that Aliona S's Pink Panther outfit this year might have been inspired by this :lol:
     
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  21. Aussie Willy

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    Well it was a very 90s fashion trend, particuarly the style of skirt.
     
  22. bardtoob

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    Well her costume made me think of early Maria ... and Ivanova :D
     
  23. pollyanna

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    And Olga Markova. :swoon:
     
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  24. OliviaPug

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    Yes! Where have all the voids gone?!

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  25. Aussie Willy

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    I love that outfit. Looks great and works so well with the program.
     
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  27. Aussie Willy

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    Thanks so much for posting those Ivanova programs. I loved those.

    The pink glove was all about the hands, wasn't it? :lol:

    The gypsy one was excellent. So musical. Fantastic interpretation.

    And you can't go past Disco Gershwin. Something we just don't get anymore.

    But the thing I really loved about her skating was the fluidity over the ice. There is no friction with her blade. It is seemless. No wonder she was so highly ranked for the time because her skating skills were excellent.
     
  28. Casey2

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    As I recall, Ivanova was really good at figures, not so good at free skate. (Please feel free to set me straight, if I have a bad memory.) I always felt sorry for her because her federation wasn't much interested in singles skaters at that time. Remember the US commentator calling attention to her 'dirty skates'?
     
  29. judgejudy27

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    Yeah Ivanova was definitely more of a figures specialist after she returned from her suspension in 1984. She usually was very inconsistent in the free skate, and rarely did clean long programs. She often did do a clean and pretty good short program though.

    Before her suspension 1981 and earlier she struggled in figures but was better at free skating then later years. She was a more consistent jumper then compared to later years.
     
  30. bardtoob

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