I gave Ando double the points for winning Nationals as I gave Kostner for winning Europeans though so I already took into consideration what you said. How much further should one go, punish Kostner for totally dominating Europeans like she is supposed to be doing. Ando earned more points from Nationals than Kostner did for Europeans under my points scale despite that Kostner has been way more dominant at Europeans than Ando at Nationals. For the record I dont think Ando would have won Europeans 5 times even if she had the opportunity to compete in it and she traded places with Kostner (she wasnt ever winning it before 2007, and she wouldnt have competed in it past 2011, and someone like Lepisto would have beaten her atleast once), and the competition at Europeans was actually harder 2003-2006 than Japanese Nationals since Slutskaya > anyone in Japan at the time, so I was more than generous to Miki in that estimate. Miki won 2 of her 3 Nationals when her toughest was Suguri, while Kostner would have had to beat Slutskaya to win a Europeans before 2007. During the time the competition at Japanese Nationals was truly much tougher than Europeans Kostner won 5 Europeans and Miki 1 Nationals. As for controversial wins Ando's 2011 World title was controversial to some people. Her 2009 Worlds medal also should have been considering her getting higher PCS than Rochette and Asada with her programs at the time is a joke, and that is the only reason she barely medalled over Mao. Ando's fall 2009 grand prix wins, and even one of her fall 2010 wins over Suzuki had some complaints at the time too.