Thank you, Cruisin... blush... and yup, 4 kiddies. Hubby and I were about 23 when our oldest was born 13 years ago. Our "baby" is 7. As for knitting and crochet, I do both. I learned to crochet as a little girl and didn't learn to knit until about 6-7 years ago when I finally got over my fear of using TWO needles. Silly I know. I like both and sometimes use both on a single project. I encourage anyone wanting to learn knitting to browse youtube and knittinghelp.com. This is how I learned to knit first using the english style and now I knit purely continental style.