Kawaguti/Smirnov Cheer thread

Discussion in 'The Trash Can' started by millipied, Apr 27, 2011.

  1. Belinda

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfAvTuxGXqE&feature=player_embedded

    Not sure if I like this or not, nor do I know why the change in choreography.
    Perhaps they've had to change to comply with this season's rules, or to increase the difficulty? The latest version seems to be less in tune with the music. I find it a bit of an uphill struggle to root for this team.
  2. julieann

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    I'm not sure what changes in choreography you are talking about. The order of elements was the same as worlds and most of the choreography was left unchanged. Some of the changes I noticed were for the better.

    The thing I noticed that was really weird was the first jumps were a 3T and 2T and it looked like Smirnov was setting up to do a second Axel if Kavaguti didn't fall, isn't that one jump too many? I'm assuming the second Axel wouldn't count.

    BTW, Yuko looked pretty but they did look sluggish, they are all probably sick of having to do test skates. I just hope every element gets points, for all the teams.
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    The order remains the same but the performance starts earlier and partly because of that some of the little arm movements & footwork which used to highlight particular notes in the music are either gone or no longer in tune, however, if the change is for the better (for upping the difficulty etc?), I would be happy.
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    K&S CoC SP
    K&S CoC LP
    CoC Pairs Podium
    K&S CoC EXH
    Gala Finale (Got this from where Lexxandra linked it in the CoC Gala thread.) All kinds of fun!

    Major thanks to everyone who posted on YouTube so quickly! Awesome!

    A few thoughts:

    SP: Good new direction for them. Somewhat concerned about their death spiral and pairs spin, though. Seemed really slow on both; plus, the ending was really awkward--looks as if they may have messed it up. If they're going to do the Natalia Mishkutenok spin, I think they need to dial it up to warp speed. (Still want to see them in black leather for this. Would rather see Yuko as biker chick instead of lingerie model. That said, I like her new look. "She don't look like no little girl no more, that's for durn sure!")

    LP: Glad that they kept it for another year. Should be great by Russian Nationals. (Liked the way they left the ice arm-in-arm and how Sasha made Yuko laugh in the K&C--about 9:25 in the video. Their partnership seems to be much warmer now than it has seemed in the past.)

    Podium: Nice to hear the Russian National Anthem playing for a pairs podium. Yuko looks kind of teary-eyed during the flag-raising. [Unrelated comment: Zhang Dan is tremendously tall, isn't she? I can't help but think that she has the potential to be absolutely magnificent and imposing on the ice. Hope she and Zhang Hao can get it together eventually.]

    EXH: Same number they performed at the Triumph of Tamara Moskvina gala. Choreographed by Bobrin & Bestemianova, maybe? I think their final lift may have come down, but they seemed to have invented some choreography on the spot to cover it up. Sasha tearing his shirt open?! Oh, my!

    General thoughts: JMO but, there seems to be kind of a subtle but rather significant change in this team this season. Can't really put my finger on it, but they seem less anxious and just calmer in general. More settled, maybe? Don't really know how to put it into words. Whatever, glad that they're finally becoming a pair. I've read in various places that they're still hoping to put the throw 4Sal in the LP. Have mixed feelings about that and am a little confused, because I thought that they had been training a throw 3Flip/Lutz during the summer of 2010. Wonder why they abandoned it? Anyway, looking forward to the rest of the season.
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  5. paskatefan

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    I like them, and were very pleased with their free skate from Cup of China.
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    I am rooting for them to win the world championship in 2012.

    Yuko looked pretty- it was more than just the hairstyle, IMO. Can't really place a finger on it. It's hard to believe she is 29!
  7. Belinda

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    I hated the SP at the test skate but a little modification has made such a difference and I love it now. RE LP they changed the order of elements and it feels like a different programme, but just as emotional as before. I hope they skate it clean this season. I love both programmes and if they skate clean and do justice to them and to their abilities, I don't care if they don't stand on the podium.
    I think Sasha said they are practising quad, a huge error of judgement IMO. Yuko doesn't have a decent trajectory and her quad always looks like a sparrow helicoptering on to a bird table. They should concentrate on unison in jumps and spins (all the more visually stunning when they are in perfect unison because of the diffference in size), new lifts, spirals and steps. With twists & throws all they can do is to minimise damage by not crashin and falling.
    Can some one explain please why in their LP they got Level 1 for the pair spin (the last element) at COC, whereas they got level 4 last season (Euro/Worlds).
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    A total rejuvenation. Out of the potential top 3 teams this year, I am definitely rooting for K/S to finally win. I am happy that it looks like it's not going to be V/T and S/S show.
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    At this point I don't see V&T as a lock, even for a Russian championship. We have not really seen them in an international competition yet, and I do believe they are still developing. K&S have been skating together for a while and that could be the difference.
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    Well, V/T won Skate Canada:) with the highest score of the season among top contenders. I am also afraid that RF already have appointed the chosen ones to team n1 and V/T have to not show up to not take the Russian championshop title, even K/S skate the lights out.
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    Yes, they did, but I don't recall anyone saying they skated great or that they had a great program. The tone was that of disappointment- at least that was my perception. It will be too risky for the RSF (i was wondering what RF was?) to put all their eggs in one basket. I have been saying this for a while. Anything can happen- V&T may not develop (I admit that they are not my favorite pair at the moment but I am willing to wait), or one of them could have an injury
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    V/T may have the highest score so far but it also took them three competitions to get there. Cup of China and Skate America was only K/S and S/S first competition, so if you go back to V/T’s first competition at Nebelhorn the scores are more accurate in relation to each other. I’m going to wait until the GPF to pass too much judgment on any of them.

    V/T weren’t “Russias #1’ at nationals last year and yet they somehow won anyway because they skated well and K/S didn’t.

    K/S have two great programs, they just need to tweak a few things like that ugly death spiral in the short and for heaven’s sake FIX THE TWIST MOSKVINA! They also changed the second lift in the LP where he turns her in a full split; the one they did at the test skates was much better. I guess they had their reasons.

    Yuko’s look is a great improvement; both her hair and make-up look great. They both looked very at ease and not nervous at all, I think that made their skating better. Even their exhibition program is cute, although if Smirnov is going to rip his shirt open he just shouldn’t wear one at all.

    The top three for this year are clearly in a class by themselves so far and are very close in PCS so it will all come down to who does harder things, gets full levels and performs the elements perfectly. Anyone of them can fail or succeed.

    I hope the road is that easy for V/T but I doubt it will be. Sochi is still over two years away and a lot can happen, Trankov has has trouble with his shoulder already this season so they are not immune to injuries. If the RF is so shortsighted not to care about the other pairs they may get burned.
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    V/T capitalise on big elements. V/T is a marriage of convenience. We know they got together to win. Up to now no one seems to be expecting any moving story line from their performance. For example, no one said what a lovely Juliet Tatiana was, how innocent in the first half and how trangic in the end. The choreo is not helping them either in developing this side of the artistry. But I am hoping that Maxim will get enough inspiration from his rivals to demand more from Morozov. For example, Maxim noted that K/S this season is interesting (must be ref to their SP). My theory is that this has prompted him to reexamine their SP. That's why I thought that S/S's new LP might stimulate Maxim to reconsider their LP, which a lot of people find wanting.
    K/S is different. When they got together, no one in RSF thought they were presentable at international competitions. Theirs is a marriage determined by fate. And ever since, we've been fascinated with their story. We expect from K/S, not big elements (which they cannot deliver), but great story. Watching K/S debuting their SP at CoC, Franca Bianconi of Raisport said that the programme suits Sasha but not Yuko, who prefers classical music; that she cannot portray the desperation of an abandoned woman. Now, who on earth would make such a demand of other skaters?
    FS is first & foremost a sport, which means V/T have a better chance of winning than K/S. But we want more from this sport and K/S satisfies this need.
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    lovely LP at CoC...their fluidity and grace made me forget about the difficulty of their program. there was something almost ethereal about their program that was reminiscent of their SP to "The Swan." I am so happy they decided to remain eligible. Congratulations and best of luck to them:)
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    Reports are that Yuko got her shoulder injury again during the practice before SP and was even hospitalized. Hence the result. Too bad they did not withdraw. Heakth is more important. Get weel soon, Yuko and good luck in Free!
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    Yeah, I've been wondering whether or not it would be better if they did withdraw instead of risking further damage to her shoulder, since they have another chance to make the finals through Cup of Russia. Haven't really heard how bad the injury is, though. Hoping she's doing okay and wishing them the best in the LP!
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    K/S win the Gold at NHK. Gutsy and beautiful performance from them today.
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    So glad that they were able to come back from their SP yesterday with a beautiful performance in the LP today. It was great to see how happy they were after they skated (and also that they finally won in Japan!). I'm also glad that they'll be able to get a little bit of a break before Cup of Russia. (Yuko looked as if she were still experiencing some pain after the program.)

    What I really like about them this season is that they seem to be skating with a lot of heart now. Though they are still somewhat reserved in their expression, they don't just "emote," but rather seem to perform with genuine feeling. It's really nice to see that change in them. Congratulations Yuko & Sasha!
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    Thanks again to all who posted videos on YouTube. Have been debating whether or not to post these links since NHK--the network--has a habit of blocking videos that they consider copyright infringements on YouTube. Anyway, it's been a couple of weeks and these are still up, so here's some stuff from NHK Trophy:

    K&S NHKT SP [A little iffy on the audio and visual quality.]
    K&S NHKT LP [Ditto re: the audio and visual quality. Commentary is a little bit on the gushy side, also, I think.]
    NHKT Pairs Podium

    [There was a video of their EXH posted for a day or so, but it's since been blocked. No telling if these videos will be blocked at some future date. Oh, well.]

    SP: Surprising performance, considering they had done so well just the week before at CoC. Felt really bad for them.

    FP: Nice comeback for them, though still a bit shaky. Happy that they got through it as well as they did. The first time I watched this I got a bit teary-eyed at the end--first time in a long time that that has happened. Must have been a great relief for them to get through it without any major mistakes. Must have been such a surprise when they came in first!

    Podium: They seemed rather giddy on the medal stand. Funny reactions when they were awarded the crystal trophies. (The trophies looked heavy.) I like how Sasha's so straight-faced when he makes Yuko laugh.

    Re: Yuko's shoulder--various sources have indicated that she didn't actually dislocate her shoulder; the taping on both shoulders was done as a precautionary measure. Glad she's not injured.

    Anyway, on to CoR!

    [Sorry for the double post.]

    Almost forgot: Yuko's 30th birthday was this past Sunday, the 20th. Here's hoping she had a good one!
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  20. allezfred

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    Just saw this post now. This is incorrect. Yuko did not injure her shoulder nor was she hospitalised prior to NHK.
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    Beautiful performance of Clair de Lune by Yoko & Sasha. Though they came in second, I'm sure they are more satisfied today than they were at Sapporo. Today's performance is by far the best so far. Moskvina must have been relieved about the jumps. Yuko made the same error in her landing of a throw jump as in the NHK SP. But at least, she hasn't fallen after her throw landing this season, I don't think.
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    I love the fluid style of Yuko and Sasha. One mistake on a throw but it was a lovely, effortless, beautiful performance at COR. I hope they win the world title this season, although S&S seem to have a very strong grip on it. I wonder if they need to add the throw quad at this point, to get a competitive edge over S&S?
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    Please no. They've finally achieved calmness and consistency in their free, and the quad would ruin that. I love Clair de Lune and the spell they cast, but what would help them beat S&S would be having more transitions in their program. In the "Second Mark" book Moskvina talked about how she would cut photos out of magazines and books that inspired her, each one being called a "masterpiece" and then incorporate those moves into her choreography. M&D and B&S had such beautiful and original moves. That's what K&S need more of. But with that said I am loving their chemistry, connection, and gentleness this season. :swoon:
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    M&D and B&S were both much stronger skaters (basic) than K&S. So it is natural that Tamara had more difficult choreography for her past pupils. B&S in particular were phenomenal in transitions. Too bad it was wasted in the 6.0 system.
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    http://www.sports.ru/others/figure-skating/131806882.html
    Google-translate & I see that Smirnov is saying they are practising quad throws!! They seem to believe it's easier for them to perfect quads than improve twists, death spiral, lifts ...
    Much as I like K/S, their problem is that they don't have any elements they can sell. 5 years ago at COR, they landed 3T+3T sequence. They had 3T+3T at the beginning of this season but have replaced it with 2A+2A. I don't see any improvement in their elements over the years.
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    :confused: They now have the second highest free skate score and it's only their third competition so I'm not sure they can't "sell" their elements. They have their issues but so does S/S and V/T. They only got a level 3 on the last lift and that cost them 1.10 also the BiDs was only a level 3 and not worth as much a the BoDs, they should change that to maximize their points.

    The 3T and 2A+2A+SEQ is basically worth same as 3T+3T+SEQ and one 2A; so they are probably just doing what they like.

    I doubt anyone can talk Yuko out of doing the 4STh, she insists it goes back in; it has always been her dream to do them and at the Olympics she was robbed of it moments before the free skate. I'm glad there are teams who push themselves. Besides she dislocated her shoulder at the Olympics doing a triple, should they stop doing those as well? At the European Championships it popped out while she was standing still.

    They still have a lot to work on but they improve every single year. I would like to see her throws go higher and farther and for Moskvina to fix the twist. I'm not sure why she ignores that problem. Yuko has never done a good one with any partner, she needs to be properly trained to rotate and open up at the right time, she is thrown up in the air plenty high to have a nice twist. Their lifts are gorgeous, I hope they come up with new lifts and spins for next year.

    Peter Tchernyshev choreographed two great programs for them and the programs will get better and better. They have four major competitions left before worlds and I think by then it will be even better as long as they are healthy.
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    I almost had tears in my eyes at the end of their COR free performance. Their interpretation was simple beautiful. It's definitely their best program ever and my favorite of the 2011/12 season. I just hope they can do it justice at Worlds!
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    Dear Julieann, I value your opinion; it's nice to know you believe they can sell their elements. I want K/S to carry on safely til Sochi and sincerely hope Yuko won't injure her shoulders again. Watching Mao's 2A, I'm convinced less is more. Her 2A has more distance than her 3A and is more exciting because you can see her revolving through the air. I don't find Yuko's quad beautiful, but her triples if they are long and landed properly can be.
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    So what the judges say don't matter? The score they got at Cup of Russia was their 3rd highest free skate/total score ever (nationals not included, that score is always over the top) obviously the short needs work, it's still new and they are still making changes but they are certainly on the right track given their scores and reactions to the programs.

    I hope they both remain healthy as well but skaters get injured, it happens; but not to do an element because she may get hurt doing it is not the mentality of a world class athlete. As I said before she broke her ankle on a triple, dislocated her shoulder on a triple, he sprained his ankle on a triple... should they stop doing all those elements as well? If Yuko's shoulder can't handle the pressure of being a pairs skater, I doubt it will be the quad that does it.

    Aliona has tried the 3ATh twice already and fell each time, so should they never try it again?


    Less is not more when you are talking about a sport where every point matters. If the difference between a triple and quad is 4 points, I would go for the quad. Yuko has landed enough quads in competition to feel confident enough to put it back in. Or would you rather see this? Any skater will look better if they land an element over when they fall, but it doesn't mean they shouldn't stop trying more difficult things, unless you are skating on a broken foot or something.
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    This and the whole post!
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    I agree with a lot of what you say, especially about the athlete's mentality... we all know how tough Yuko is. I'd like to see Aliona continue to try the 3A, she's only tried it twice so far and almost no one lands a risky jump on their first one or two attempts. In Yuko's case though, as you said, she has landed the 4sal several times. It didn't make a huge impact for them. IIRC they did not land a quad in either of their world medal winning skates or in their Euros 2010 win which set a then-world record for the free skate. They don't need the quad, and the quad can be a distraction for them that leads to other mistakes.

    Would I like to see a performance of Claire de Lune like we have seen on the GP + the points for a clean quad? Sure! But odds are that it won't happen. The difficulty of quads lies not just in landing the quads but in holding together the rest of the program. That's precisely why it should be so highly valued. If they go for the quad, they could lose some of the momentum they've gained with clean skating. Claire is the kind of program where a big ass messy fall on the quad would really break the spell. Their CoR score without the quad was better than V&T have put out and better than all but one of S&S' skates this season. They would be better served to leave out the quad and work on upping the levels of their other elements and fixing their twist.
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    Normally I am all for athletes challenging themselves to do harder elements- in this case a quad throw-, but here I agree with you. This program is so seamless and dreamy that a fall could totally ruin it. However, without the quad, K&S cannot afford to make a single mistake, if they want to beat S&S (and it still may not be enough).
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    Any fall will break the momentum of a skate even when she fell on a 3S at worlds last year; I just hope they really work with what they have and make that even better. I would love to see their other elements get better but Moskvina must not see what we see; otherwise she would have fixed it by now. I would like to see more innovative lifts and spins, their death spiral is starting to look really wonky and they have done a 2FTh before, I have no idea why they aren’t working on the triple.

    I agree to a certain degree about trying hard elements but one would argue Aliona and Robin don’t need a 3ATh to win either. Nothing V/T does is that ground breaking that would make them panic and add it in unless they really wanted a change.

    K/S could have won 2 World silver medals instead of bronze; however a fall on the quad can’t really be blamed because in 2009 he doubled a 3T+3T+SEQ, so Yuko’s fall would have still had them in 2nd. Same with Worlds in 2010, she did fall on quad but she also fell on a triple, they could have stayed in 2nd ahead of S/S even with the quad fall had she landed the other throw. Doing the quad hasn’t really cost them competitions; even in worlds 2009 they had so much more difficulty in their elements over the rest, they must have thought the risk was worth it.

    In the 2008 and 2009 Cup or Russia and 2009 Europeans, if a triple was used instead of a quad it would have cost them 1 medal and 1 place at COR and a silver at Europeans; so sometime the risk is worth it.
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    Julieann, I thought you were arguing against me but what you say above is exactly what I mean. They should work on these elements. Your comment about the judges - of course I think they are fair. K/S's scores have been consistently lower in GOE and PCS than other top pairs, S/S, V/T, & usually P/T. As you say, every point matters in this sport, so improving GOE & PCS is important. I'm puzzled why Moskvina thinks this is more difficult than mastering the quad salkow throw, though I can understand why Yuko wants to go for it.
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    I have never said their elements are 100% and don't need constant work, far from it especially the twist. V/T has only competed against K/S twice and at nationals K/S were far from good because of injuries and time off. P/T have only been beaten by K/S twice, both at worlds in 2008 and 2009, but P/T have also been together 10 years longer. I also don't think a few points below on PCS scores is anything to get into a knot about especially if the team has only been together 1/2 the time. S/S are better skaters (more like Aliona is better than Yuko, not Robin better than Alexander) but again their PCS are not that much higher; usually a 1-2 point difference. But again S/S hasn’t had to take so much time off because of injuries and have been together since 2003.

    K/S training a quad over a triple is no different than S/S training the triple axel over the triple flip.

    They need to constantly train all their elements but if Moskvina won't admit there is a problem, they never will get better. However... to say "I don't see any improvement in their elements over the years" as you have said... I'm not sure what you are looking at or looking for. There has been a marked improvement in regards to how well they skate now verses a few years ago.

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    [julieann already posted a link to the LP; just wanted to group these together.]

    K&S CoR SP
    K&S CoR LP
    K&S CoR EXH
    [Couldn't find a broadcast video of the medals ceremony! Has one been posted at all? Anybody have a link to it?]

    As always, thanks to all who post on YouTube!

    SP: Much better than at NHKT. Slight change in the final pair spin and final pose.
    LP: A return to some of last year's choreography. Have a feeling there'll probably be more changes before the end of the season.

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    I have mixed feelings about K&S deciding to try the 4SalTh once more. I've been kind of enjoying them skating without it because it seems as if the circumstance of them refraining from attempting it--due to Yuko's surgery--has enabled them to concentrate on and develop other aspects of their performance and become more well-rounded. As I've commented before, they seem much calmer, settled, and unhurried this year; less anxious and less "scrambly" (if that's a word) while performing. I would be extremely glad if they could land the 4Sal successfully, but am uneasy at the thought that their program would be so dependent on that one, high-scoring element. Since what is distinctive about the LP is that it flows continuously from element to element with no stoppages, if that one element fails, how disruptive would that failure be to the rest of the program? The seamlessness of that program is, in my opinion, a great part of what makes it so beautiful to watch. I realize it is all about accumulating points, but, to me, "Clair de Lune" is becoming one of those programs that transcend the scoring, whether it gets the points or not.

    Perhaps they should consider higher-value sbs jumps/combinations? On the other hand, with their entering what seems to be a new comfort zone in their skating this year, it's possible that the 4SalTh may be an element that could become reliable and consistent for them. Guess we can only wait and see. (I wonder if they've ever considered doing a 4LpTh? To listen to the British EuroSport commentators talking, Yuko has ample time on the 3LpTh to add another rotation. Probably just wishful thinking on the commentators' part. Just a random thought.)

    At the moment, I guess, I'd prefer to see them perform a high, fully-rotated, cleanly caught 3twist lift and beautiful, fast death spirals rather than shaky quad attempts. I would love to see them be able to perform their twist with the same great technique as V&T and the Chinese pairs. I thought that their twist had shown some marginal improvement toward the end of last season, but they seem to have regressed a bit on it so far this season. I do love their unison and the way they interact on the ice. Would like to see how things could look with more polish and a little more speed.

    Anyway, that's all just my opinion. I am glad that they have finally developed a good connection between them. It has affected their skating in a really positive way, I think. As I've mentioned before, I do think that they are finally skating with heart. It's great to see.

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    Re: Yuko's shoulder--both Moskvina and Yuko, in separate interviews, have described what happened to Yuko's shoulder as "a slight sprain." Unlike at NHKT, she didn't have the right shoulder taped at CoR, so I guess that whatever happened in Japan has since been resolved.

    On to the GP Final!
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    They could do double rotations everything in their free and it would still be perfect to me. The choreo is sublime and she is a true job to watch. He has finally matched her in terms of emoting. Keep it as it is. ITA re: Mao. If you have reached a certain level of artistry, you don't need to risk as much. As to the German pairs, I think she is healthy and likes to take risks. Sometimes not a good idea, but I respect that as well.

    My only concern is Yuko looks so frail, not like Pang, but still kind of small upper-body-wise. I have a shoulder issue myself and it kills just doing normal tasks and ice dance, I can't imagine doing pairs.
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    K&S GPF SP
    K&S GPF LP
    GPF Pairs Podium [very brief clip]
    K&S GPF EXH
    As always, thanks to all who posted on YouTube!

    SP & LP: Not as good or relaxed as they have been previously this season. Some of the anxiety seemed to be back. (I don't especially like the change to the dismount of their last lift in the LP. To me, it doesn't seem consistent with the rest of the choreography and, in addition, seems somewhat derivative. Just me, I guess.) Sasha offered somewhat of an explanation for their performances in an interview he gave after the competition:
    [Many thanks to TAHbKA, who posted the link and translated the complete interview (about V&T and K&S) in the From Russian With Love thread. I brought over just the part that was pertinent to K&S.]

    They seemed to be having quite a discussion after the end of their LP before they took their bows. Sasha seemed to be trying to reassure Yuko about something. Anyway, good for them that they won the bronze medal, given that they had placed 5th in all three of their previous GPF appearances.

    EXH: That first lift came down again; and again they did a pretty good job of improvising choreography on the spot. Seems like a fun number for them.

    * * *

    Re: Yuko's hairdo in the LP--While others seem to think that her hairdo is a "granny"-type hairstyle, Yuko's hair reminds me of how Demi Moore's hair was styled in the movie A Few Good Men.

    * * *

    Just saw as I was working on this post that they will be skipping Russian Nationals due to Sasha's injury. Shoot! Hope all the pairs recover quickly and completely. Amazing how precarious the status quo can be from day to day. Hope everyone is there at Europeans and Worlds!

    [Double post again. Oh, well.]
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